Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[kb]

Luke Schenn isn't on the Tampa Bay Lightning. Come back Luke.

And he wasn't on the ice for them when the chips were down.

Coles notes: The team that won the cup played him 19 out of 49 playoff games, and 1 game in 2 years of finals. So if a team has to play him full time because he is one of their 6 best options, that team is nowhere near good enough to win the cup.

 

[Magic Man]

And he wasn't on the ice for them when the chips were down.

Coles notes: The team that won the cup played him 19 out of 49 playoff games, and 1 game in 2 years of finals. So if a team has to play him full time because he is one of their 6 best options, that team is nowhere near good enough to win the cup.

I'd bet on Schenn. I know his game, we could use what he brings.

 

[kb]

I'd bet on Schenn. I know his game, we could use what he brings.

So did Tampa, hence the usage. lol

 

[Gabriel426]

Any possibililty that the Leafs (or Bruins) were involved in the Jeannot bidding and drove up the price? If the Lightning identified Jeannot as a playoff difference maker (and I think the price they paid says they do), they may have overpaid to keep Toronto (or Boston) from getting him.

If that’s the case, Dubas and Sweeney are geniuses

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

holy crap Tampa gave up a lot for Jeannot. mentioned earlier that Nic Deslauriers has been traded twice in recent years for a 3rd and a 4th round pick in separate deals. While Jeannot may have a little more scoring pop (he's not a 20% shooter) that is a horrendous deal and good on Nashville for moving him.

If Dubas gets Deslauriers or Mcbain for peanuts that offsets this move pretty easily.

 

[Menzinger]

Underutilized? He's not putting up big counting stats because his shooting percentage has normalized
We could put McMann with Matthews and Marner and he'd do ok to, want to overpay for that though?

They overpaid
He's not very good this season
Best of luck to them, glad it wasn't us that did it

Yep. The idea that Jeannot offense is down because of his former team quickly falls apart when one realizes he was literally only their 14th best scorer....

In comparison Holmberg has almost the same production, in 20 less games played. I like Holmberg just fine. Wouldn't spend 5 draft picks to get him though.

 

[meefer]

holy crap Tampa gave up a lot for Jeannot. mentioned earlier that Nic Deslauriers has been traded twice in recent years for a 3rd and a 4th round pick in separate deals. While Jeannot may have a little more scoring pop (he's not a 20% shooter) that is a horrendous deal and good on Nashville for moving him.

If Dubas gets Deslauriers or Mcbain for peanuts that offsets this move pretty easily.

I'd be interested in McBain and Bjugstad. Just under 1.8 combined cap hit and no real drop in offense from SAR and Engvall. 6'3" McBain shifting from C to LW (with Kamph and Acciari) is a pretty sturdy 4th line. Bjugstad dropping from 2C to play 3RW with ROR and Knies would not be pushed around. What might the cost be?

One defenseman I'm curious about is Brandon Montour with Florida. His TOI and scoring stats are quite strong: more than 24 min/g and 48 points. I realize he's not the type of guy we've been discussing, but can he withstand the forecheck, is he capable of adding to our team? The last two years, according to Moneypuck, he's seeing around 55% expected goals %, his expected goals for exceed goals against, and his /60 numbers look favorable as well. Signed through next year at 3.5M I'm curious.

I'm having difficulties with most of the defensemen who are available this year, cost and duration of contracts etc. That's why the interest in Montour. My knowledge of him is primarily stats based.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

holy crap Tampa gave up a lot for Jeannot. mentioned earlier that Nic Deslauriers has been traded twice in recent years for a 3rd and a 4th round pick in separate deals. While Jeannot may have a little more scoring pop (he's not a 20% shooter) that is a horrendous deal and good on Nashville for moving him.

If Dubas gets Deslauriers or Mcbain for peanuts that offsets this move pretty easily.

You've got the right plan. Many of yall. Mcbain (pain) and deslauriels is the correctamundo mandalorian way to go.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

If Bennett is available, he needs to be target. Along with Gudas

Bennett could be a big addition

 

[hullsy47]

Rangers have a bunch of star players... What makes them more "balanced" than us?
They got Shesterkin from the draft in 2014, and he's the MVP of their team.
Fox forced his way there.
Trouba forced his way there.
Panarin signed with them.
Zibanejad randomly turned from a 50-point to PPG player.
They've had 1st, 2nd, 7th, and 8th overall picks
And they're still worse than us...

And Kane is forcing his way there

 

[TheBeastCoast]

We really do not need to add a bottom 6 forward to match what Tampa just sold the future for. Integrate Knies and McMann into the bottom 6 by playoff time. Decent to good chance both are better players then Jeannot right now and both can play physical.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Haha good job Tampa, talk about overpay.

 

[TorMapleJays]

The first time I learned who Paul was, was game 7 of the first round last year. Leafs just need guys who will score greasy goals… on every line. Last night our greasy goal scorers all played on the second line.

 

[Burnie97]

We really do not need to add a bottom 6 forward to match what Tampa just sold the future for. Integrate Knies and McMann into the bottom 6 by playoff time. Decent to good chance both are better players then Jeannot right now and both can play physical.

Better to try that rather then do what Tampa just did. Insane to trade that much.

Still think one of Engvall or Kerfoot should go and be replaced with a guy with more grit to give.

 

[Americanadian]

I'd be interested in McBain and Bjugstad. Just under 1.8 combined cap hit and no real drop in offense from SAR and Engvall. 6'3" McBain shifting from C to LW (with Kamph and Acciari) is a pretty sturdy 4th line. Bjugstad dropping from 2C to play 3RW with ROR and Knies would not be pushed around. What might the cost be?

One defenseman I'm curious about is Brandon Montour with Florida. His TOI and scoring stats are quite strong: more than 24 min/g and 48 points. I realize he's not the type of guy we've been discussing, but can he withstand the forecheck, is he capable of adding to our team? The last two years, according to Moneypuck, he's seeing around 55% expected goals %, his expected goals for exceed goals against, and his /60 numbers look favorable as well. Signed through next year at 3.5M I'm curious.

I'm having difficulties with most of the defensemen who are available this year, cost and duration of contracts etc. That's why the interest in Montour. My knowledge of him is primarily stats based.

The issue with Montour is he has historically been an offense first defenseman (this year included). If you grab him Brodie moves to the left and you have to play one of Liljegren/Holl/Montour with Rielly and none of those partners sound like a good idea.

 

[Coffee]

What would it take for Vancouver to bring Kerfoot home?

 

[613Leafer]

We really do not need to add a bottom 6 forward to match what Tampa just sold the future for. Integrate Knies and McMann into the bottom 6 by playoff time. Decent to good chance both are better players then Jeannot right now and both can play physical.

Jeannot was 2nd in the league in hits and was the goal scoring leader among rookies last season.

TB paid an absurd price for him, but I think you're sleeping in him quite a bit here. Either way though, I think we're pretty set up front.

 

[Warden of the North]

Want to take bets if the members of the media who chewed out the Leafs for "trading a whole draft class" for ROR and Acciari,which at least two of them did, will similarly do so for Tampa?

I'm going to go with "no".

 

[BTP]

Brilliant of Dubas to make his moves so early. Had time to let the other teams react. Now you can go add again where it might be harder for other teams who just made their move.

Go get another forward and D.

 

[Americanadian]

Go get Wade Allison now. Very similar to Jeannot except he hits ~80% as much as Jeannot. Near identical shots/60 rates at ES and near identical first assists/60. Allison has a positive defensive GAR (0.2), Jeannot has a negative (-1.3).

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Jeannot was 2nd in the league in hits and was the goal scoring leader among rookies last season.

TB paid an absurd price for him, but I think you're sleeping in him quite a bit here. Either way though, I think we're pretty set up front.

He is a good forechecker but he isn't what he was last season. I know what he is as a player. He is like a 30-40 point 3rd line player.

 

[Macallan18]

You've got the right plan. Many of yall. Mcbain (pain) and deslauriels is the correctamundo mandalorian way to go.

This is the Way.

And Kane is forcing his way there

prolly for the life in NY. Be a big star. Lots of women and drugs. No thanks to Mr. Kane.

 

[Macallan18]

Jeannot was 2nd in the league in hits and was the goal scoring leader among rookies last season.

TB paid an absurd price for him, but I think you're sleeping in him quite a bit here. Either way though, I think we're pretty set up front.

looking at the draft picks, we got O'Reilly and Acciari AND retention for the same kind of haul, Dubas really deserves kudos for his deal.

 

[TMLAM34]

Talk about an overpay holy…..

 

[Nineteen67]

If you told me 2 hours ago that TB are sending all of those picks to Nash, I would have assumed it was for Ekholm with retention.

I thought if they were trading Jeannot it’d be in a multi- player deal and would signal a rebuild for Nashville.