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CycloneSweep

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The problem is that IIRC we couldn't extend OEL yet so we could deal Drai for 1.5 years of OEL. We cannot afford that kind of a mistake.



Puljujarvi's and Yamamoto's maturation as players should mean that sooner or later Drai will be moved to center.
Not if Todd's still here. Draisaitl will only ever play center for more than a handful of games if RNH or Mcdavid are hurt, or if RNH is traded.

I just can't see it with McLellan here.
 

McFlyingV

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The problem is that IIRC we couldn't extend OEL yet so we could deal Drai for 1.5 years of OEL. We cannot afford that kind of a mistake.



Puljujarvi's and Yamamoto's maturation as players should mean that sooner or later Drai will be moved to center.
Yeah of course, in my original post I was talking about in the offseason under the condition that OEL is willing to re-sign here with the trade.
 

Bryanbryoil

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Yeah of course, in my original post I was talking about in the offseason under the condition that OEL is willing to re-sign here with the trade.

That makes more sense. Even then I'd be hesitant to make such a trade especially within our division.
 

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No drastic trades. All we need is a scorer on the right side. James Neal. Then we need depth on the Blue even when Reggie is back. Petrovic woukd fit that bill.

Get those two guys and get Dadbot playing better and we are good to go.

Let’s go Oilers.
 

A91

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Maroon-McDavid-Neal
Cammy-Nuge-Kassian
Lucic-Drai-Slepy
Cagguila-Letestu-JP/JK

Make that top nine happen and we will be ok.

James Neal for Strome + 3rd or something along those lines. Would add up to a 1st if there could be a possible sign and trade with Vegas retaining somehow with Neal coming out to ~4 million.

Disagree with those lines, I'd personally go

Maroon - McDavid - Neal (97 line)
Lucic - Draisaitl - Pulju (Physical dominant and can be elite offensively)
Cammy - RNH - Slepyshev (2 shooters for Nuge)
Cagiula - Letestu - Kassian
Khaira
 

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James Neal for Strome + 3rd or something along those lines. Would add up to a 1st if there could be a possible sign and trade with Vegas retaining somehow with Neal coming out to ~4 million.

Disagree with those lines, I'd personally go

Maroon - McDavid - Neal (97 line)
Lucic - Draisaitl - Pulju (Physical dominant and can be elite offensively)
Cammy - RNH - Slepyshev (2 shooters for Nuge)
Cagiula - Letestu - Kassian
Khaira
With or without Neal I can’t believe we haven’t tried rolling the big 3 centers down the middle yet for a solid stretch. It’s the primary strength of our team.
 

A91

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With or without Neal I can’t believe we haven’t tried rolling the big 3 centers down the middle yet for a solid stretch. It’s the primary strength of our team.

Agreed. Especially considering how Draisaitl has been playing, he NEEDS a shakeup.
Literally just defers to McDavid on every play, isnt shooting the puck much, and has been turning over the puck alot.
Also, Nuge can carry his own line this season. A major reason why the 3 scoring lines didnt work as well last season was because he couldnt.
 

nexttothemoon

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OEL for Drai would be a ballsy trade for any GM to make. Makes the D stronger and the forwards weaker but obviously OEL adds an element on D that is lacking on the Oilers as well which would help overall team offense as well.

Would be interesting to see how many here would be in favour of that trade.

Poll please.

That would be a trade reminiscent of Hall/Larsson trade and although I think it's very unlikely that the trade would be made... it likely does move the needle forward for the Oilers.

They would still need more help up front though as that does make an obvious gaping hole in the top 6... although like others have stated it would open the door up for Klefbom/Nurse/Sekera to be traded away for a decent forward to fill that hole. Larsson is off limits as he is far too elite defensively and is an anchor of this team D for years to come.
 
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guymez

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OEL for Drai would be a ballsy trade for any GM to make. Makes the D stronger and the forwards weaker but obviously OEL adds an element on D that is lacking on the Oilers as well which would help overall team offense as well.

Would be interesting to see how many here would be in favour of that trade.

Poll please.

That would be a trade reminiscent of Hall/Larsson trade and although I think it's very unlikely that the trade would be made... it likely does move the needle forward for the Oilers.

They would still need more help up front though as that does make an obvious gaping hole in the top 6... although like others have stated it would open the door up for Klefbom/Nurse/Sekera to be traded away for a decent forward to fill that hole. Larsson is off limits as he is far too elite defensively and is an anchor of this team D for years to come.

There is no way this deal happens.
There is already a gaping hole on RW...trade Draisaitl and that hole becomes a cavern. Its too much to overcome IMO.
 

Ritchie Valens

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Serious question...not trying to sound like or come across as a d-bag, but why exactly is Vegas willing to trade Neal?

He's leading their team in goals with 10, second in points with 15, they're one point out of the division lead plus they're in the same division as the Oilers.

He's a pretty integeral part of their lineup and I don't see them dealing him away any time soon if they keep up the pace they're on, unless there was something reported in the media about him being available.
 

La Bamba

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OEL for Drai would be a ballsy trade for any GM to make. Makes the D stronger and the forwards weaker but obviously OEL adds an element on D that is lacking on the Oilers as well which would help overall team offense as well.

Would be interesting to see how many here would be in favour of that trade.

Poll please.
It's a ballsy trade but we know Chia isn't afraid of ballsy trades.

I'd probably do it because Arizona's current struggles would be the only time a franchise D man like him would be available.

If RNH keeps up his good play, he'd be a good enough 2nd line C and worth 6M
 

BoldNewLettuce

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Svechnikov-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Caggiula-Kelly-Pakarinen
Petersen-Letestu-Kassian

Nurse-Dahlin
Klefbom-Larsson
Russell-Gryba

Talbot
Broissoit
 

McDNicks17

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OEL for Drai would be a ballsy trade for any GM to make. Makes the D stronger and the forwards weaker but obviously OEL adds an element on D that is lacking on the Oilers as well which would help overall team offense as well.

Would be interesting to see how many here would be in favour of that trade.

Poll please.

That would be a trade reminiscent of Hall/Larsson trade and although I think it's very unlikely that the trade would be made... it likely does move the needle forward for the Oilers.

They would still need more help up front though as that does make an obvious gaping hole in the top 6... although like others have stated it would open the door up for Klefbom/Nurse/Sekera to be traded away for a decent forward to fill that hole. Larsson is off limits as he is far too elite defensively and is an anchor of this team D for years to come.

I hope no on here is in favor of trading seven more years of Drai for one more year of OEL.
 

McFlyingV

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I hope no on here is in favor of trading seven more years of Drai for one more year of OEL.
The premise of this trade when I proposed it was on the condition that it happens this summer, and that OEL is willing to re-sign in Edmonton as a condition of the trade, but is unwilling to sign in Arizona. I think the trade makes sense for Edmonton personally. I'm also perfectly fine with building around McDavid and Drai. This team really either needs a #1D/PP QB or they just have to gut it out and pray Puljujarvi and Yamamoto both become 60+P wingers. The depth is quite sad on this team, and with the way Klef is playing they are getting nothing offensively from the D. Sekera will bump that production up, but it still won't be enough with the current lack of forward depth.

Oilers are in a tough spot right now where they either need to wait and suffer through the growth of their winger prospects, or they need to somehow fill those wings asap. Draisaitl is honestly being wasted on the wing because the team has terrible wingers. Maybe its time to run a 1-2-3 down the middle and pray that our centres can piggy back the shit out of our underperforming wingers.
 

backhandsauce

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Serious question...not trying to sound like or come across as a d-bag, but why exactly is Vegas willing to trade Neal?

He's leading their team in goals with 10, second in points with 15, they're one point out of the division lead plus they're in the same division as the Oilers.

He's a pretty integeral part of their lineup and I don't see them dealing him away any time soon if they keep up the pace they're on, unless there was something reported in the media about him being available.

He’s a UFA and if he isn’t willing to resign they will trade him.
 

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Not if Todd's still here. Draisaitl will only ever play center for more than a handful of games if RNH or Mcdavid are hurt, or if RNH is traded.

I just can't see it with McLellan here.

I think Drai not being used at C says more about our wingers than it does about him.

McDavid is already carrying a third liner. RNH is saddled with the slowest man in the NHL on his left side. Draisaitl at C would have, what, exactly, to work with? The corpse of Cammalleri and Ryan Strome?

The talent level on this team is seriously lacking.
 

McFlyingV

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I think Drai not being used at C says more about our wingers than it does about him.

McDavid is already carrying a third liner. RNH is saddled with the slowest man in the NHL on his left side. Draisaitl at C would have, what, exactly, to work with? The corpse of Cammalleri and Ryan Strome?

The talent level on this team is seriously lacking.
Yup thats pretty much the sad truth of it. I suppose if they continue to piss the season away they could try running 3 lines with McDavid, Nuge and Draisaitl all centring a bunch of 3rd and 4th liners just to see if it could work. I think its more likely that those players produce less and we end up tanking the value in any potential trades because no team in the league forces their stars to lug around 2 underskilled forwards while having very little offensive production from their defence.

Chia has dug the hole and the way I see it he only has 3 real options to climb out of it.
1) Wait and pray that we get at least a couple gems out of Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Benson, Maksimov, and Safin and suffer in the meantime
2) Find some under-utilized NHL/AHL/EuroAsia/College players for cheap/free that fit well and can produce with our centres
3) Trade prospects and draft picks for scoring wingers
 
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