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[Canovin]

Petrovic would be an upgrade on Benning and Gryba

 

[Epoh]

Gryba maybe... not sure Petrovic would be better than Benning but haven't seen enough of his work

 

[Jet Walters]

He's actually been a healthy scratch recently.

If you could get Petrovic for a reasonable price I'd do it. At worst he is an upgrade on Gryba in every way and could even push Benning for icetime. Slepyshev + 3rd? I don't think Khaira straight up gets it done.

 

[soothsayer]

Yup we do get a spot back. Problem is , Chia probably signs Chris Kelly once that spot opens up.

It seems obvious that this is the plan.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I assume Stanton must be healthy if he's being waived now.

Stanton is a solid depth dman... as is Auvitu. They are both excellent top 6 options for this team.

I feel much better about the defense on the Oilers than I do about their forward depth... which definitely still needs a few more good 2-way players.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Petrovic would be a nice pickup as well... but with Sekera coming back likely "soonish".. probably within a few weeks to maybe a month at most, I don't know if the team needs another dman in the mix but Petrovic would be another good option for the top 6.

 

[joestevens29]

Stanton on waivers now as per Oilers tweet... There's another player along with Lowe, Auvitu, and so on gifted contracts this offseason taking up space. The Oil have a number of plugs under contract - now at 49 of 50 correct?? Limits our ability to bring guys in for a pick or something. When signing the Stanton's of the world, we need to use AHL contracts to fill out that team. There has to be 8 guys with paper that have ZERO chance of playing in the NHL. Depth DMen have to be better than these guys.

Do we get a contract spot back if Yama is sent to the WHL for the year?? I say "if" because I'm thinking he may stay now... even though I think that is a major mistake.

The whole contract thing is really a non-issue. Fans seems to sure make a lot more out of them then they really are.

 

[Canovin]

Petrovic would be a nice pickup as well... but with Sekera coming back likely "soonish".. probably within a few weeks to maybe a month at most, I don't know if the team needs another dman in the mix but Petrovic would be another good option for the top 6.

I wouldn't bank on Sekera returning in top form. Could very well come back looking like Klef or worse

 

[soothsayer]

I assume Stanton must be healthy if he's being waived now.

Stanton is a solid depth dman... as is Auvitu. They are both excellent top 6 options for this team.

I feel much better about the defense on the Oilers than I do about their forward depth... which definitely still needs a few more good 2-way players.

I would argue that much of the Oilers' problems offensively begin with their defense. The other day Elliot Friedman (I think it was him) commented that the Oilers are one of the slowest teams in the league. He wasn't wrong, but he didn't mean that the team has slow players, I don't think, but that the team is slow in transition. The team just can't get the damn puck from the back to the front in a reasonable amount of time, and a huge part of that has to do with the defense's inability to make quick reads, skate fast and deliver accurate passes.

The only guys who have been somewhat capable of transitioning from the backend have been Klefbom and Nurse, and Nurse doesn't fully count because his big play is to move it up on his own (he's getting better at transitioning every game, though). Benning has taken a step back from last year, Gryba moves backward not forward, Larson isn't great at the breakout, and Russell makes 4 million for blocking shots. The team misses Sekera in a huge way, who by his absence has maybe demonstrated that he is the best defenseman on the team!

Anyways, the Oilers desperately need to speed up their transition game. I don't know how they're going to do that to any significant degree before Sekera gets back. Maybe a few more speedy wingers would help.

 

[belair]

Why haven't we traded for Leivo yet?

 

[frag2]

I assume Stanton must be healthy if he's being waived now.

Stanton is a solid depth dman... as is Auvitu. They are both excellent top 6 options for this team.

I feel much better about the defense on the Oilers than I do about their forward depth... which definitely still needs a few more good 2-way players.

Forget 2 way, with how bad we are at scoring, I'd be content with one dimensional scorers for now lol

 

[McShogun99]

Why haven't we traded for Leivo yet?

I haven't seen him play. Why isn't he a regular in the Leafs lineup?

 

[NeverForget06]

I haven't seen him play. Why isn't he a regular in the Leafs lineup?

They have one of the deepest lineups in the league on forward, and many of the same goal scoring winger type that he is from what I understand.

 

[Canovin]

I haven't seen him play. Why isn't he a regular in the Leafs lineup?

From what I rathered from the trade/rumours thread is the Leafs aren't playing him so he doesn't qualified for the group 6 UFA status. In other words, they don't want to pay more. At this point, Leivo is a goner and he's only making 700k. Wouldn't cost much to extend him and could very well be a good 3LW for us.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Forget 2 way, with how bad we are at scoring, I'd be content with one dimensional scorers for now lol

No, I don't want one-dimensional players. That doesn't help the team. It's just an illusion when they put up nice boxcars but their net effect on the ice is still negative.

It does work the other way as well obviously... when you have defensive specialists that can't score to save themselves.... but I'd much rather have players that are average or above average both offensively/defensively than are great at one aspect and suck at the other.

 

[belair]

From what I rathered from the trade/rumours thread is the Leafs aren't playing him so he doesn't qualified for the group 6 UFA status. In other words, they don't want to pay more. At this point, Leivo is a goner and he's only making 700k. Wouldn't cost much to extend him and could very well be a good 3LW for us.

It's actually the opposite. They are frustrated that Babcock doesn't seem to care that Leivo needs 39gp to qualify for RFA status. It's the same reason that Pitlick was a group six UFA this past summer. He didn't play the necessary number of NHL games.

Also, if I'm acquiring him, I'm giving him a shot at RW on one of the top two lines. He's shown the ability to put up points in the few opportunities he's had at this level. I wouldn't be shocked to see him thrive in one of those roles.

Maroon - McDavid - Draisaitl
Jokinen - RNH - Leivo
Lucic - Strome - Kassian
Caggiula - Letestu - Slepyshev/Pakarinen
Khaira

The lineup is still missing some scoring depth, but the lines are set to help out the bottom six. The Jokinen/RNH experiment paid a few dividends in the preseason. If he sucks there, it's just as easy to plug either Lucic or Caggiula in that spot.

 

[McDrai]

Would be awesome to get AA and Kreider and put them on McDavid's line

Kreider-McDavid-Athanasiou

What a force that would be

 

[VainGretzky]

Slowest team in the league in the speed and skill transitioning NHL not 1 natural goal scorer on roster 1 trade will not help this .

 

[joestevens29]

Slowest team in the league in the speed and skill transitioning NHL not 1 natural goal scorer on roster 1 trade will not help this .

Why. This team isn't a whole lot different than last year.

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

I would prefer Maroon-McDavid-AA tbh. Maroon might be slow but he is a grinder with some skill. He will go into corners and win puck battles and provide some toughness and willingness to scrap with someone even touches McDavid.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Why. This team isn't a whole lot different than last year.

Minus Sekera (temporarily), Pitlick, Eberle, Pouliot, and Hendricks. Plus Auvitu, Strome, and Jokinen.

The Oilers didn't change any of the real major parts but they basically replaced an entire line up front.

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

To be honest we aren't that far away from being a fast team Sekera will add some puck-moving ability to the back end and will be an upgrade on Gryba.

Maroon-McDavid-Drastiatl/X1
Lucic-Nuge-Drastiatl/X1
Drake-Strome-Slepyshev
X2-Letestu-Kassian

Nurse-Larsson
Klefbom-Sekera
Russell-Benning

X1= Nash/Grabner/Neal
X2= Speedy Pker

 

[belair]

Why. This team isn't a whole lot different than last year.

This is pretty much it. We're seeing a lot of guys simply underperforming out of the gate. A lot of it likely isn't permanent which is why the rumors of us 'shopping' guys we signed less than a dozen games ago just doesn't make a ton of sense.

Slepyshev I can see though because he does have legitimate upside and can still be sent to the farm IIRC.

 

[joestevens29]

Minus Sekera (temporarily), Pitlick, Eberle, Pouliot, and Hendricks. Plus Auvitu, Strome, and Jokinen.

The Oilers didn't change any of the real major parts but they basically replaced an entire line up front.

Pitlick and Pouliot to me don't really matter that much. Teams are always changing those types of guys.

Pitlick wasn't apart of the playoffs for this team and Pouilot really didn't play that much either. They are depth guys that will be rotated year after year.

So essentially Eberle is out. And one trade should fix that. More so I think it's the team just starting to play a consistent complete game. Not lets decide the PK isn't going to play today or next game PP doesn't show up.

 

[joestevens29]

To be honest we aren't that far away from being a fast team Sekera will add some puck-moving ability to the back end and will be an upgrade on Gryba.

Maroon-McDavid-Drastiatl/X1
Lucic-Nuge-Drastiatl/X1
Drake-Strome-Slepyshev
X2-Letestu-Kassian

Nurse-Larsson
Klefbom-Sekera
Russell-Benning

X1= Nash/Grabner/Neal
X2= Speedy Pker

I mentioned in the lines thread, but Gregor(?) talked about how Nurse/Larsson could allow Klef and Benning to really be an offensive pair that is used to get that puck moving quick. Maybe it doesn't work with the McDavid line as they will be targeted by the competition. However, that pairing should be able to make quick plays to our 2nd line.

In theory it makes sense. There is also the potential that Klef pinches and Benning makes the bad decisions he has this year.