Rumor: Trade Rumors & Proposals Thread | No More Pacifism For the Oilers?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

It would be better than Pickard and Skinner. Because he is a better goalie.

I don’t understand how people can watch Pickard flop around the crease or Skinner move like Steve the Sloth and disagree.

 

[CycloneSweep]

and still lose 3-1

Okay? And then we have a vision that even at our worst our goaltending is able to keep the game close and reasonably when the team is playing well, the goalie won't be losing us games.

 

[Soundwave]

Bobrovsky is going to be remembered positively because he stole his team 1 game in a close series.

Overall though he was pretty average against the Oilers.

I thought he was their best player overall in the Finals. Who would you say was better? Barkov? Not really. Tkachuk was even bad. Ekblad was a tire fire. Forsling was underwhelming.

Bob was the best player for them in probably 3/4 wins.

 

[Canovin]

Not wanting to upgrade on Stuart or Pickard should be deemed trolling and banned at this point lol

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don’t understand how people can watch Pickard flop around the crease or Skinner move like Steve the Sloth and disagree.

Cause we would still lose games, I guess?

 

[Soundwave]

3 years? Maybe a year and a half max.


Boston are notorious choke artists. It's not really that surprising if you think about it.

And Tampa previously? That was unbelievably shocking, not even the mom's for the Columbus players would've bet that the Blue Jackets were winning that series.

That have one upset like that on your resume is impressive, to have two is really, really something.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Okay? And then we have a vision that even at our worst our goaltending is able to keep the game close and reasonably when the team is playing well, the goalie won't be losing us games.

They haven't played well in any game since January. Last year's team was an illusion. This is who the Oilers really are.

And Tampa previously? That was unbelievably shocking, not even the mom's for the Columbus players would've bet that the Blue Jackets were winning that series.

Tampa hadn't won anything either prior to 2019. Who loses a game 7 at home to the Capitals?

 

[CycloneSweep]

Bobrovsky is going to be remembered positively because he stole his team 1 game in a close series.

Overall though he was pretty average against the Oilers.

Shit man, average would be an upgrade for us.
in the playoffs last year Bob had a 0.919s% and a 0.07 GSAA/60 5v5.
Skinner had a 0.895 and a -0.01 GSAA/60.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Shit man, average would be an upgrade for us.
in the playoffs last year Bob had a 0.919s% and a 0.07 GSAA/60 5v5.
Skinner had a 0.895 and a -0.01 GSAA/60.

Must be nice facing afterthought after afterthought in the playoffs. Ooooh the Rangers, how scary.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Cause we would still lose games, I guess?

Every team loses games. But when you lose games because of your goaltending, that's a major problem. The game winning goal of game 7 last year was a soft goal - a good shot, but a long shot without any reason for the goalie to have not had it. He just missed. People joke about the Oilers strategy being to win by scoring 4+ goals, but if we can improve a couple of areas of our defensive play, mostly in net right now, then it would go a long way towards solidifying us as a team that can win tight games when we are playing well again.

 

[Soundwave]

They haven't played well in any game since January. Last year's team was an illusion. This is who the Oilers really are.


Tampa hadn't won anything either prior to 2019. Who loses a game 7 at home to the Capitals?

They were in the Finals a few years prior and a total juggernaut. Come on now, this is totally bullshit revisionist history to act like that wasn't one of the biggest upsets not just in hockey, I remember people saying it was one of the biggest upsets in modern pro sports period.

 

[FlameChampion]

So tired of this management. Do something. Be proactive.

Honestly even if they moved some players off the books would be something. Or made some moves for the future. Like get rid Arviddson for example so you’re not kicking the same can down the road next year.

With the goaltending in particular, its such a major problem. They should be able to do something even minor just to change the scenery. They don’t have to go out and make complicated deals for Gibson or Binnington.

I hate half measured deadlines. They just waste decent assets on nothing that is going to move the needle but are unable to make smarter easier decisions.

 

[CycloneSweep]

They haven't played well in any game since January. Last year's team was an illusion. This is who the Oilers really are.


Tampa hadn't won anything either prior to 2019. Who loses a game 7 at home to the Capitals?

So the team playing awful for what...10 games is the real them but the way the team in general played for the other 40 something games is pretend?

 

[oXo Cube]

I thought he was their best player overall in the Finals. Who would you say was better? Barkov? Not really. Tkachuk was even bad. Ekblad was a tire fire.

Bob was the best player for them in probably 3/4 wins.

Rodrigues was for sure their best player. Not sure how this is debatable.

Also this board won't want to hear it but Barkov flat out won the head to head matchup against Connor McDavid and that mattered a lot.

 

[LevelingSolo]

I just can’t believe this management group thinks the goalies are good enough

 

[CycloneSweep]

Every team loses games. But when you lose games because of your goaltending, that's a major problem. The game winning goal of game 7 last year was a soft goal - a good shot, but a long shot without any reason for the goalie to have not had it. He just missed. People joke about the Oilers strategy being to win by scoring 4+ goals, but if we can improve a couple of areas of our defensive play, mostly in net right now, then it would go a long way towards solidifying us as a team that can win tight games when we are playing well again.

You can score more goals when you have trustworthy goaltending and solid d. It lets your team pay a little looser a little more free.

 

[Cloned]

They can upgrade other areas of the roster all they want but if they don’t fix the goaltending it’s akin to being on the Titanic that fateful night and deciding to polish the paint job and stock the pantry in the mess hall.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Okay? And then we have a vision that even at our worst our goaltending is able to keep the game close and reasonably when the team is playing well, the goalie won't be losing us games.

so the defense and lack of offense will continue to lose them games...so that's better eh

 

[Soundwave]

Rodrigues was for sure their best player. Not sure how this is debatable.

Also this board won't want to hear it but Barkov flat out won the head to head matchup against Connor McDavid and that mattered a lot.

Connor McDavid - 11 points +5 in the Finals
Alex Barkov - 5 points, -1 in the Finals

Yeah ... I don't think he "flat out won" that matchup, lol.

 

[TB12]

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Some posters are seriously gonna place less blame on the goalies last night, seriously? A f***ing save would help.

It's not "some" posters. It's the exact same posters. In every thread, every comment about goaltending. Doesn't matter how many stats or facts you throw at them, they stick their fingers in their ears and screech about everything but their precious sons in net.

 

[CycloneSweep]

so the defense and lack of offense will continue to lose them games...so that's better eh

Our defence and lack of offence has proven this year and last year that hey can be good to great and are playing terribly right now. Doesn't change the fact that they aren't playing well right now but there is hope they can you know, go back to not sucking.

The goaltending never has that cause they at BEST are average.

How is this complicated.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

They were in the Finals a few years prior and a total juggernaut. Come on now, this is totally bullshit revisionist history to act like that wasn't one of the biggest upsets not just in hockey, I remember people saying it was one of the biggest upsets in modern pro sports period.

Top seeds lose all the time in hockey. President's Trophy curse and all.

So the team playing awful for what...10 games is the real them but the way the team in general played for the other 40 something games is pretend?

They're basically playing the way they started the year. If McDavid and Draisatl aren't on another level there's nothing else here.

 

[belair]

It would be better than Pickard and Skinner. Because he is a better goalie.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of factual evidence. Because Gibson was exactly that four of the past five seasons--a consistently sub-0.900 goaltender.

His game has bounced back this season to respectable levels after Anaheim removed him as the starter.

There's a very good chance that you'd make that expensive trade and Gibson struggles in the same regard if the Oilers' team game continued to struggle.

 

[Soundwave]

Top seeds lose all the time in hockey. President's Trophy curse and all.


They're basically playing the way they started the year. If McDavid and Draisatl aren't on another level there's nothing else here.

They actually don't lose that often in round 1.

I remember even the NBA guys on ESPN were talking about Columbus beating Tampa, it was really like an unbelievable thing.

Again it's very revisionist history now to say "oh yeah, that was no big deal, lol". My ass it wasn't.