Rumor: Trade Rumors & Proposals Thread | No More Pacifism For the Oilers?

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

They are. Team is 10th in goals for despite the coldest month they've had offensively in like 6 years. Things happen over long seasons.



The Oilers are actually incredibly lucky to have 2(they actually have 3) players who can drive offense like this.

Most teams in the NHL are a good top line and a bunch of fluff.

Problem is only one of those guys is driving offense lately and he made sure to do it at both ends of the ice last night.

Most teams have at least some depth scoring every so often.

There's a reason why certain sects of the fanbase cling to Klim Kostin: He scored two goals in a playoff game once and that concept is so foreign around these parts that we never forgot it.

You know who led the Panthers in scoring in the Finals year? The mighty Evan Rodrigues.

 

[CycloneSweep]

oh so now you care about past accomplishments when it comes to Bob

Id say a long history of good play and multiple Vezinas are far more relevant than Skinner having a good season once.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

all he did was backstop the Oilers to the biggest win in 18 years when the Oilers had like 12 shots all game

Neat, good for him, there are ALOT reasons winning a cup is hard, you have to make the playoffs to do that, and Skinner's level of play RIGHT NOW is trending away from that.

It's clear the TEAM, the players, have lost trust in him, so it doesn't matter if you still think he's nifty.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Id say a long history of good play and multiple Vezinas are far more relevant than Skinner having a good season once.

Prior to the 2023 playoffs he was viewed as one of the worst contracts in the league.

 

[Mr Positive]

Yeah, if we manage to squeeze into the playoffs still (which is far from guaranteed at this point), we'll likely lose in the first round, and almost for certain will lose in the second round.

Entire team is worse this year, and the goaltending is SIGNIFICANTLY worse (which is saying something as it was pretty bad last playoffs as well). No chance at a long run this year without some major changes, which apparently aren't going to happen.

Imo it's the goaltending.

We have unperforming vets like Arvidsson, Henrique, Brown, Janmark. These guys will absolutely step up in the playoffs. I've seen this with veterans for decades now.

I'm even more certain that we won't see Draisaitl play as bad as he did vs Anaheim. It's also a smart bet that McDavid finds his way.

Its the goaltending to worry about. It will be streaky and flakey. It was last year and it seems worse this year. This will sink us

 

[oXo Cube]

Problem is only one of those guys is driving offense lately and he made sure to do it at both ends of the ice last night.

Most teams have at least some depth scoring every so often.

There's a reason why certain sects of the fanbase cling to Klim Kostin: He scored two goals in a playoff game once and that concept is so foreign around these parts that we never forgot it.

You know who led the Panthers in scoring in the Finals year? The mighty Evan Rodrigues.

Yes, that is the problem. Key word though is lately.

You know what the Florida Panthers didn't do in the playoffs last year? Score goals at a rate even remotely close to the numbers the Oilers put up.

 

[Soundwave]

oh so now you care about past accomplishments when it comes to Bob

Uh it sorta matters. Goalies like him can elevate their game at any time, and generally tend to in big situations.

2 Vezina trophies is no joke, do you even realize there's only like 7 goalies total in the modern NHL era (1979 onwards) that have multiple Vezina trophies? Out of like hundreds of guys that have played the position.

Yeah, you get some benefit of the doubt when you do that, f*** outta here with this nonsense that Skinner some how deserves some kind of similar benefit of the doubt.

 

[McAsuno]

Neat, good for him, there are ALOT reasons winning a cup is hard, you have to make the playoffs to do that, and Skinner's level of play RIGHT NOW is trending away from that.

It's clear the TEAM, the players, have lost trust in him, so it doesn't matter if you still think he's nifty.

Skinner defenders flex using g6 against Dallas like he wasn’t a sieve in the first and second round wasn’t noticeable. Almost lost to the nucks if not for Pickard coming in

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Skinner defenders flex using g6 against Dallas like he wasn’t a sieve in the first and second round wasn’t noticeable. Almost lost to the nucks if not for Pickard coming in

I mean, he was brutal against the Nucks...no one on planet Earth has said otherwise

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Skinner defenders flex using g6 against Dallas like he wasn’t a sieve in the first and second round wasn’t noticeable. Almost lost to the nucks if not for Pickard coming in

Also it doesn't matter, I'm glad he played well then, it was amazing, but he's not bringing that level now and it's causing strife for his teammates, you can see it on the ice.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Imo it's the goaltending.

We have unperforming vets like Arvidsson, Henrique, Brown, Janmark. These guys will absolutely step up in the playoffs. I've seen this with veterans for decades now.

I'm even more certain that we won't see Draisaitl play as bad as he did vs Anaheim. It's also a smart bet that McDavid finds his way.

Goaltending. It will be streaky and flakey. It was last year and it seems worse this year. This will sink us

The only players that aren't underperforming this year are Draisatl, Perry, and Kulak.

That's not a recipe for success.

Yes, that is the problem. Key word though is lately.

You know what the Florida Panthers didn't do in the playoffs last year? Score goals at a rate even remotely close to the numbers the Oilers put up.

The Panthers had a more balanced lineup than we did. McDavid couldn't be found until game 4 and nobody could score until the team was basically out of it in game 3.

 

[Arpeggio]

There's nothing that shocking about any of this stuff, you just aren't used to seeing a good team having to run it back after a Finals run so you think you're seeing "COVID" instead, lol.

You have to expect some sag this season, the problem is the goaltending still sucks so the sag that was inevitably coming is spreading out of control.

lol relax dude. As if I haven't been watching hockey for 30 years and am not aware of how difficult it is to return to the Finals. This isn't "some sag". Ekholm is playing like a bottom pairing defenceman. McDavid is awful. Nearly the entire team looks completely lost offensively. I don't agree with you that it's just because the goaltending has been bad. That's a cop out imo.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I mean, he was brutal against the Nucks...no one on planet Earth has said otherwise

He also allowed one goal in two games in LA. But somehow that gets glossed over when Nurse/Ceci decided to do their usual act in the series.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean, he was brutal against the Nucks...no one on planet Earth has said otherwise

You've been pretty firm on "he(they) have struggles, but the team is so bad in front of him(them) he's helpless" line for way too long.

 

[Oilslick941611]

oh so now you care about past accomplishments when it comes to Bob

people are acting like Bob wasn't a joke until last year.

Bob didnt single handedly win the cup either.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Prior to the 2023 playoffs he was viewed as one of the worst contracts in the league.

And prior to his first 2 years in Florida he was the one of the best goalies. He was a historically great goalie who had 2 down years and when Florida was actually ready to contend he stepped up.
Skinner is a goalie who had one good year in his life and when the team finally looks ready to win a cup, has only gotten worse.

 

[oXo Cube]

The only players that aren't underperforming this year are Draisatl, Perry, and Kulak.

That's not a recipe for success.


The Panthers had a more balanced lineup than we did. McDavid couldn't be found until game 4 and nobody could score until the team was basically out of it in game 3.

McDavid had one, maybe two good games in the Finals. Draisaitl had zero good games.

The Oilers pushed that series to 7 games anyway. Really not sure the series you're quoting supports the argument you're trying to present at all.

 

[jukon]

Getting vibes of 19-20 so far, we spend our assets on players who don't work out/barely play any games for us and we get bounced in the first round.

Hopefully not.

 

[Soundwave]

I mean, he was brutal against the Nucks...no one on planet Earth has said otherwise

The Oilers should have honestly lost that series. Can say it now that the Canucks have imploded and don't have the same team any longer (bye bye JT Miller, Zadarov, Demko etc), but the main reason the Oilers eeked that out was because Silvos is trash at .882 in the series.

You almost have to *try* to lose a playoff series when the opposition goalie is .882.

If they had a .900 in that series they probably win the series. We caught a fairly large break.

 

[McHelpus]

oh so now you care about past accomplishments when it comes to Bob

Switch bobrovsky and Skinner. Does Florida beat the Oilers?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You've been pretty firm on "he(they) have struggles, but the team is so bad in front of him(them) he's helpless" line for way too long.

and you've been on the "goaltending will fix everything!" line for way too long

the problems run deeper than that...I know it's tough to accept, but it's the truth

 

[CycloneSweep]

people are acting like Bob wasn't a joke until last year.

Bob didnt single handedly win the cup either.

He was a "joke" who had 7 years straight of being one of the greatest goalies in the league.

Switch bobrovsky and Skinner. Does Florida beat the Oilers?

No cause we win game 1.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

He was a "joke" who had 7 years straight of being one of the greatest goalies in the league.

For sure. But I remember reports of Florida trying to give away his contract at 50% retained at one point.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

And prior to his first 2 years in Florida he was the one of the best goalies. He was a historically great goalie who had 2 down years and when Florida was actually ready to contend he stepped up.
Skinner is a goalie who had one good year in his life and when the team finally looks ready to win a cup, has only gotten worse.

He was still awful in Florida prior to 2023 and he didn't even start that playoffs.

But it doesn't matter, management has made their bed and they decided that friendship was more important than Cups. Just sell at the deadline.

 

[VeteranPresence]

you arent going to convince them.

They are so hard headed in their thinking that a goalie solves everything, that everyone is overlooking the glaring issues the team has.

Goalie is in fact the biggest problem. We know you have some sort of agenda to support management, although it's not clear what or why that is.