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otown

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The Sens have no option now but to build from within. The rest of the league is watching and the franchise is quickly becoming the "Siberia" of the NHL!

The cycle will contine as players mature and demand market value contracts. As long as EM is owner players who develop will be shipped out, probably for little value in return as indicated by the pattern of PD's management.
It is like a merry-go-round of incompetence!
 

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I would unironically be okay with this so far as Stone and Duchene get us legit prospects. A guy like Josh Norris is kinda "iffy" to me.

If Erik Karlsson got us an "iffy" prospect, the other 3 won't net is much more. We should not have any faith in deals made by Pierre Dorion. Lets look around and find out where Brady Tkachuk's friends are playing, that's where a trade will likely occur.
 
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Klimchuck and Rychel too. I still think both have a chance. Best situation now is move smith for a dman on a similar contract and make a claim.
 

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Perry and Kesler hurt creates a nice trade opportunity for Stone and/or Duchene. Montour, Terry, Steel and Silf all come to mind...
 
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BonkTastic

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Kerby Rychel is on waivers today, I wonder if we put a claim in on him. Former first round pick and he has had good production in the AHL.

Kerby Rychel at eliteprospects.com

You know those well rounded 3rd line guys who are just sort of line filler and people say are "elite at nothing, but good at everything"?

Well, Kirby Rychel is not that kind of player because he just sucks at everything.
 

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Even though this is more of a throwaway season, they really should have pursued a stop gap dman for the top 4. I understand going with a lot of youth, but we are way to thin back there on current and potential top 4 guys.

As it stands now, we pretty much have zero proven top 4 other than Ceci who regardless of performance while out there, has shown he can be on the ice for 25 minutes a game.
 
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Even though this is more of a throwaway season, they really should have pursued a stop gap dman for the top 4. I understand going with a lot of youth, but we are way to thin back there on current and potential top 4 guys.

As it stands now, we pretty much have zero proven top 4 other than Ceci who regardless of performance while out there, has shown he can be on the ice for 25 minutes a game.

We should have gotten Braun instead of Demelo in the Karlsson deal. He can play #3 type minutes, and we would have gotten a 2nd round pick for him eventually either next off season, or at the 2020 TDL.

Either SJS wouldn't give us that kind of added value, we didn't want to spend additional money on another veteran roster player, or both. If it's SJS not giving us the added value of Braun, it further highlights the absurdity of the Karlsson trade return.
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell

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We should have gotten Braun instead of Demelo in the Karlsson deal. He can play #3 type minutes, and we would have gotten a 2nd round pick for him eventually either next off season, or at the 2020 TDL.

Either SJS wouldn't give us that kind of added value, we didn't want to spend additional money on another veteran roster player, or both. If it's SJS not giving us the added value of Braun, it further highlights the absurdity of the Karlsson trade return.
Good call, as a RHD he seems redundant for SJ behind Karl and Burns, so we likely could have had him if Dorion pushed for it. A small investment for now to help out and then flip him for an asset worth significantly more that DeMelo in the first place.

Sadly, the almost 4 million per year for two more years likely answers that question on why we would have taken the lesser player.
 

SENSARMY18

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I really am thinking we won't be making any claims, our prospect depth is deep and it will be interesting to see them make names for themselves with these new opportunities.
 

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I really am thinking we won't be making any claims, our prospect depth is deep and it will be interesting to see them make names for themselves with these new opportunities.
Hey, help me out please.

Where was this awesome prospect pool ranked? Must have been #1, right?
 
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Meh, I'm not completely sold on them being out of it. I thought Minny looked old and slow and I have a feeling they'll take a step back this year. I also think Colorado might regress a bit since they didn't do anything to shore up the wing and i don't think MacKinnon can keep up his super-human pace. I could definitely see Chicago competing for a wildcard spot.


Colorado is just fine having 2 lottery picks in the strong 2019 Draft.
 
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The Sens should’ve signed any vet they could to one year contracts and flip them at the TDL. Even a 3rd-4th round pick is better than nothing.

Also, i’m down for the full scorched earth rebuild. Keep Stone and Duchene until the deadline to try and not finish completely last, and then get any picks and prospects you can for them.

The Sens won’t be good for at least 3-4 years from now. Stone and Duchene will both be at least 30 years old and starting to slow down.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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The Sens should’ve signed any vet they could to one year contracts and flip them at the TDL. Even a 3rd-4th round pick is better than nothing.

Also, i’m down for the full scorched earth rebuild. Keep Stone and Duchene until the deadline to try and not finish completely last, and then get any picks and prospects you can for them.

The Sens won’t be good for at least 3-4 years from now. Stone and Duchene will both be at least 30 years old and starting to slow down.
That'll be Wideman.
 

SENSARMY18

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Hey, help me out please.

Where was this awesome prospect pool ranked? Must have been #1, right?

Right now we’re kind of low in the rankings and people say they won’t do anything worthwhile but I don’t believe that. Our prospects will accomplish more than a lot of people believe.
 

Deku

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Right now we’re kind of low in the rankings and people say they won’t do anything worthwhile but I don’t believe that. Our prospects will accomplish more than a lot of people believe.

What are you predictions for how our rookies will perform?
 

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You know those well rounded 3rd line guys who are just sort of line filler and people say are "elite at nothing, but good at everything"?

Well, Kirby Rychel is not that kind of player because he just sucks at everything.

Is he really that bad? He had 2 seasons in the OHL where he scored 40 goals and he has put up 50 points in the AHL. He is also gritty, hits and fights. Is he really not a better option than Pyatt, McCormick or Pajaarvi?
 

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Is he really that bad? He had 2 seasons in the OHL where he scored 40 goals and he has put up 50 points in the AHL. He is also gritty, hits and fights. Is he really not a better option than Pyatt, McCormick or Pajaarvi?

Rychel just isn't an NHL caliber skater. At all. Period. Slow acceleration, slow top speed, he takes ten steps to go as far as average skaters will cover in 5 strides. His stride is high and goofy, like he's doing ballet or some weird high kick run, and seems unsalvageable at his point in his career.

He actually has really nice hands when he can get up close and can find open areas of the ice at the AHL level, but he's such a defensive liability when the play isn't in the offensive zone. He's awful in transition because he cherry picks at times and doesn't have the speed to backcheck, so he's just removed from a ton of plays. He also has enough physicality to create space for himself at the AHL level, but has never shown that he can do it at the NHL level. He's also never been able to shake his reputation of being undisciplined, due mostly to the fact that he's super undisciplined all the time, and takes bad penalties at dumb times and goes into business for himself all the time.

The AHL has a long history of producing guys who put up great numbers against lesser competition, but whose skills just don't translate against the best in the world. There's hundreds of guys whose game gets worse as the talent level scales up, and look great in the minors but can't hang with the real pros. I mean, Donald Brashear scored 38 goal in an AHL season once. These things happen.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks if we re-sign Duchene and Stone we can still compete in the next 3 or so years?

In 3 years time:

Formenton-Duchene-White
Tkachuk-Brown-Stone
Ryan-Chlapik-Batherson
XXX-XXX-XXX
(Fill in the X's with UFAs/Trades/Draft etc.. Current guys who could be in the mix would be Pageau/Tierny/Balcers/Gagne etc...)

Chabot-XXX
Wolanin-Ceci
Lajoie-Jaros
(Current guys who could be in the mix: Tychonic/Bernard-Docker/Englund)

Gustavsson
XXX
(X Could be a guy like Hogberg)
 
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We should have gotten Braun instead of Demelo in the Karlsson deal. He can play #3 type minutes, and we would have gotten a 2nd round pick for him eventually either next off season, or at the 2020 TDL.

Either SJS wouldn't give us that kind of added value, we didn't want to spend additional money on another veteran roster player, or both. If it's SJS not giving us the added value of Braun, it further highlights the absurdity of the Karlsson trade return.
The sharks didnt even qualify Demelo that was a contract dump. They signed him as a UFA we could have got him free. This was actually a favor for San Jose not aquiring an asset of value. This is the GM and owner that we have they are not trying to compete.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks if we re-sign Duchene and Stone we can still compete in the next 3 or so years?

In 3 years time:

Formenton-Duchene-White
Tkachuk-Brown-Stone
Ryan-Chlapik-Batherson
XXX-XXX-XXX
(Fill in the X's with UFAs/Trades/Draft etc.. Current guys who could be in the mix would be Pageau/Tierny/Balcers/Gagne etc...)

Chabot-XXX
Wolanin-Ceci
Lajoie-Jaros
(Current guys who could be in the mix: Tychonic/Bernard-Docker/Englund)

Gustavsson
XXX
(X Could be a guy like Hogberg)

Unfortunately we'd have to be able to re-sign Duchene and Stone, sign the odd guy in the offseason, as well as make trades that aren't completely about shedding salary. If we were a normal NHL team sure we could compete in 3 years, unfortunately that's not in the cards for us.
 

Do Make Say Think

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Am I the only one who thinks if we re-sign Duchene and Stone we can still compete in the next 3 or so years?

In 3 years time:

Formenton-Duchene-White
Tkachuk-Brown-Stone
Ryan-Chlapik-Batherson
XXX-XXX-XXX
(Fill in the X's with UFAs/Trades/Draft etc.. Current guys who could be in the mix would be Pageau/Tierny/Balcers/Gagne etc...)

Chabot-XXX
Wolanin-Ceci
Lajoie-Jaros
(Current guys who could be in the mix: Tychonic/Bernard-Docker/Englund)

Gustavsson
XXX
(X Could be a guy like Hogberg)

What makes you think we have any chance of retaining Stone or Duchene?

They are as good as gone.
 
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