Proposal: Trade Rumors and Proposals: If Someone From the Core Gets Dealt Who Should it Be?

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I wouldn't trade Klefbom alone for Chara

You know, if I based it off last season, I would agree. But this season, wow, Klefbom is WORSE than his rookie year.

Nothing this season from him screams anymore than #3/#4.

Schultz of all players is outplaying him.

 

[Up the Irons]

I'm about ready to blow this team up honestly. Only untouchable is McDavid. I know people say "blah blah only 4 games, wait until the offseason" but I think that's a load of crap. Lets face it, we're not making the playoffs this year, so why not get a jump start on next season by start making some moves sooner rather than later? If we make a bunch of big deals in the off season it's just gonna be the same again at the start of next year, team coming out slow out of the gates because lack of chemistry, bunch of new players etc. Better to get these guys in at least by christmas time so they can gel and learn the systems and whatnot

this. how anyone can still be on board with the Hall-Ebs-RNH-Schultz-Yak cluster is beyond me. How much evidence to you need to finally admit they're not that good as a group? I'd say keep Hall and Ebs and see if there's a worthwhile trade(s) for the others.

this is why Draisaitl is in the minors playing C instead of playing winger with the big team (Drai is clearly better then Slep and Purcel); to get him up to snuff at C so that a trade involving RNH is an option.

the older core's time is almost up.

 

[Canovin]

People need to stop worrying about Klefbom and his contract. He's priced right. His floor is a #4 and his ceiling is a top pairing D. Even if he ends up as a #4, that's what #4 D are paid.

You can tell Klef is being asked to provide offense. But he's doing it against a team like St. Louis and getting caught pinching. I have no problem with him adding more offense to his game. He will learn and he will adjust.

 

[Canovin]

This team is a Thornton and a Brent Burns away from playing a structural game. Otherwise, it's junior plays all day every day. Next year rinse and repeat.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

You know, if I based it off last season, I would agree. But this season, wow, Klefbom is WORSE than his rookie year.

Nothing this season from him screams anymore than #3/#4.

Schultz of all players is outplaying him.

And Chara is constantly injured and a shadow of his former self.

 

[joestevens29]

We need skilled veterans. His contract situation is probably what makes him available.

How does that help us? We can't afford a 50-60 point guy with a 8.25mil cap hit, who's actually making 9.5mil.

Really don't see Katz wanting to dish that kind of money out.

How do you even get the cap to work? Plus Carolina isn't just going to throw him away for free.

 

[joestevens29]

You know, if I based it off last season, I would agree. But this season, wow, Klefbom is WORSE than his rookie year.

Nothing this season from him screams anymore than #3/#4.

Schultz of all players is outplaying him.

Ah so you are going to base it off 4 games this year?

As for Schultz he did work out this summer and did have a ton of potential so it's not really shocking that he's doing better. I don't really think Klef has been bad either though.

 

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And Chara is constantly injured and a shadow of his former self.

And mentality like this is why this team is stuck in a perpetual rebuild. At some point, gotta cut losses and also realize, give to get.

2013-2014 BRUINS 77 17 23 40 25 66 10 0 3 168 10.1
2013-2014 SLOVAKIA-OLYMPICS 4 0 1 1 -1 4 0 0 0 9
2014-2015 BRUINS 63 8 12 20 0 42 4 0 0 138 5.8
2015-2016 BRUINS 2 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 0 5 0.0

I'd take a player that plays maybe 3/4s of a season and provide stability than some player that, more often than not, is detrimental to the team.

 

[joestevens29]

Plekanec two year extension. 7mil and then 5mil

 

[frag2]

Ah so you are going to base it off 4 games this year?

As for Schultz he did work out this summer and did have a ton of potential so it's not really shocking that he's doing better. I don't really think Klef has been bad either though.

I'm throwing it out there. If he plays like this the next 20, then he's obviously not as good as we saw.

Are you also thinking Yakupov is salvageable too?

 

[shoop]

this is why Draisaitl is in the minors playing C instead of playing winger with the big team (Drai is clearly better then Slep and Purcel); to get him up to snuff at C so that a trade involving RNH is an option.

the older core's time is almost up.

It's sad it came to that. I like Nuge. I agree it could be a matter of chemistry and he just isn't the guy for Hall/Ebs/Yak.

I hoped Nuge could be comfortable in the 2C role. Doesn't seem like it. Gotta do what is best for the team. If Nuge could bring a top pairing defenceman and Drai is ready. Pull the trigger!

 

[PinSeeker]

Klef was also injured most of TC wasn't he? Will take him a couple more games

 

[joestevens29]

And mentality like this is why this team is stuck in a perpetual rebuild. At some point, gotta cut losses and also realize, give to get.

2013-2014 BRUINS 77 17 23 40 25 66 10 0 3 168 10.1
2013-2014 SLOVAKIA-OLYMPICS 4 0 1 1 -1 4 0 0 0 9
2014-2015 BRUINS 63 8 12 20 0 42 4 0 0 138 5.8
2015-2016 BRUINS 2 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 0 5 0.0

I'd take a player that plays maybe 3/4s of a season and provide stability than some player that, more often than not, is detrimental to the team.

I think a lot of people would take Chara if a deal made sense. That deal makes zero sense.

 

[joestevens29]

I'm throwing it out there. If he plays like this the next 20, then he's obviously not as good as we saw.

Are you also thinking Yakupov is salvageable too?

I think Yak can be a 20-30 goal scorer this year, but I'd trade him to round this team out.

 

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I think a lot of people would take Chara if a deal made sense. That deal makes zero sense.

Gotta give to get.

Maybe I'm not as high up on Klefbom as some but like I said, give to get.

It's sad it came to that. I like Nuge. I agree it could be a matter of chemistry and he just isn't the guy for Hall/Ebs/Yak.

I hoped Nuge could be comfortable in the 2C role. Doesn't seem like it. Gotta do what is best for the team. If Nuge could bring a top pairing defenceman and Drai is ready. Pull the trigger!

honestly, even if not ready and Nuge nets you a bonafide #1D, i'd make the move.

 

[frag2]

I think Yak can be a 20-30 goal scorer this year, but I'd trade him to round this team out.

At this stage, Yak looks like a more talented Cheechoo to be honest

 

[joestevens29]

Gotta give to get.

Maybe I'm not as high up on Klefbom as some but like I said, give to get.



honestly, even if not ready and Nuge nets you a bonafide #1D, i'd make the move.

I'm okay with giving. Not on a guy with that little of time left in him. I mean Jagr sure because he'll play until he's 60, but Chara is slowing down every year.

 

[Joey Moss]

Gotta give to get.

Maybe I'm not as high up on Klefbom as some but like I said, give to get.



honestly, even if not ready and Nuge nets you a bonafide #1D, i'd make the move.

Chara is worth about a 2nd round pick.. Give to get? LOL.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Chara is worth about a 2nd round pick.. Give to get? LOL.

If they ask for that, do it. But it'll be some stupid price for sure

 

[McAsuno]

Good god, Klefbom for Chara? Who's old, has injury problems, and an expensive contract?

 

[joestevens29]

Just looking at the early standing and combining it with what I thought could happen with teams shipping off players at some point this year we really have limited options.

CAR, TOR, BUF, NJ are still struggling and at some point if this continues they will probably cut their losses and get the prospects and picks.

CBJ, BOS, LA are teams that have high expectations, but depending on how the team gelled they could've went either way in the standings. Right now they are looking bad, this continues I think they tweak their rosters potentially. Although this probably doesn't happen until after x-mas.

SJ,FLA, OTT and ARI are in the same group as above, but are actually doing okay or quite good at this point. Odds are none of those teams will do anything drastic unless they completely fall off the edge of the earth. ARI is in here just because of Smith, OEL and Tippett. With those 3 you never know what you are going to get.

So really what are our options?

 

[Raoul Duke]

It's sad it came to that. I like Nuge. I agree it could be a matter of chemistry and he just isn't the guy for Hall/Ebs/Yak.

I hoped Nuge could be comfortable in the 2C role. Doesn't seem like it. Gotta do what is best for the team. If Nuge could bring a top pairing defenceman and Drai is ready. Pull the trigger!

I don't think anyone should be off the table for a top pairing D at this point.
Other than 97, of course.

 

[Young Lions*]

I don't think anyone should be off the table for a top pairing D at this point.
Other than 97, of course.

But no one is giving up top pairing D.

 

[Raoul Duke]

But no one is giving up top pairing D.

Oh, I agree.
I just mean that any conversation questioning whether this player or that player should be moved for a top pairing D ends with yes.
There is nothing we need more than that and it's worth more than any non McDavid player on the roster. Really we need 2.
Age and contract factor in, of course, but if RNH, Hall, Eberle or whoever get that D, just do it.

 

[StevieBlunder]

Oh, I agree.
I just mean that any conversation questioning whether this player or that player should be moved for a top pairing D ends with yes.
There is nothing we need more than that and it's worth more than any non McDavid player on the roster. Really we need 2.
Age and contract factor in, of course, but if RNH, Hall, Eberle or whoever get that D, just do it.

This. Nobody should be off limits of it means getting some defence. In terms of who should go first though.... I guess I'd say Yak. Hall would probably fetch more, but
I think at this point there's too many question marks still surrounding him. This losing, Oilers mentality is all he knows. He has elite potential, he has been their best player for a few seasons (not saying much), and under the new regime he shod get a chance to redeem himself.

Yak? No. He's a reclamation project at this point. Trade him for a vet.