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Rumor: Trade Rumor Thread III: "Trade 40 goal scorer for picks= Cup contenders" edition

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RangerBoy said:
The Avs were dumb enough to give Shattenkirk in the Blues trade.
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And might do the same with this Barrie kid. Heard whispers about him consistently for a while, but haven't seen much of him. Any good? Duncan Siemens? Apparently he's a Hamhuis type that's raised some alarms with off ice conduct.
 
ROR is a better hockey player than Stepan. At least right now, we would all notice that big time if he were to make the jump over here.

They don't want a C in return so for those of you saying Steps I don't see that happening anyway, my guess is that ROR comes over so that Richards, Steps, ROR are our Centers which looks pretty damn good for a team hurting down the middle.

ROR + EJ For MDZ + Boyle + would be interesting potatoes. My only fear in trading MDZ is that he becomes the next Scott Niedermayer in a few years.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
I'm not interested in paying his salary and giving up the talent it will take to acquire him... just not a good match, unless they want Richards in return (and thats not even because he's sucked this year, rather than getting out of the contract)
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Due to the fact that he seems to not want to sign there, the price may be lower.

Like RB said, Goligoski got Neal + Niskanen. Both players were signed.

Johnson got Stewart + Shattenkirk.

MDZ for O'Reilly + _______
 
Killem Dafoe said:
ROR is a better hockey player than Stepan. At least right now, we would all notice that big time if he were to make the jump over here.

They don't want a C in return so for those of you saying Steps I don't see that happening anyway, my guess is that ROR comes over so that Richards, Steps, ROR are our Centers which looks pretty damn good for a team hurting down the middle.

ROR + EJ For MDZ + Boyle + would be interesting potatoes. My only fear in trading MDZ is that he becomes the next Scott Niedermayer in a few years.
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I like Del Zotto, but I don't think he has top pairing potential at all. Top4, sure.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
Due to the fact that he seems to not want to sign there, the price may be lower.

Like RB said, Goligoski got Neal + Niskanen. Both players were signed.

Johnson got Stewart + Shattenkirk.

MDZ for O'Reilly + _______
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other teams will be in the mix though, so that will keep his value up. Though Del Zotto is a pretty big piece if they are willing.
 
Killem Dafoe said:
ROR is a better hockey player than Stepan. At least right now, we would all notice that big time if he were to make the jump over here.

They don't want a C in return so for those of you saying Steps I don't see that happening anyway, my guess is that ROR comes over so that Richards, Steps, ROR are our Centers which looks pretty damn good for a team hurting down the middle.

ROR + EJ For MDZ + Boyle + would be interesting potatoes. My only fear in trading MDZ is that he becomes the next Scott Niedermayer in a few years.
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Torts has said they need a top 4 RH offensive D, and had a chance to coach EJ at the Olympics. If that can somehow work with Stralman, I am game, but the devils had a championship formula that fielded a contender for a long long time with Marty and a high end defense. Would that be coming back this way?
 
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NYR Boyler87 said:
Due to the fact that he seems to not want to sign there, the price may be lower.

Like RB said, Goligoski got Neal + Niskanen. Both players were signed.

Johnson got Stewart + Shattenkirk.

MDZ for O'Reilly + _______
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Goodness. Like I said, I think the biggest thing this team needs is time, but if you can get that - and IF O'Reilly is willing to sign in NY for a reasonable contract - you have to think about that don't you? Especially if the + _______ is a promising young D...?
 
Can anyone give a decent break down on ROR? Based on some of the things I read, he could be like a ryan callahan in the center position (in terms of effect and on ice intelligence). If that's the case, that's amazing.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
Goodness. Like I said, I think the biggest thing this team needs is time, but if you can get that - and IF O'Reilly is willing to sign in NY for a reasonable contract - you have to think about that don't you? Especially if the + _______ is a promising young D...?
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That would be my thought as well. If the deal isn't structured like that, I pass.

I liked:

MDZ + Boyle for O'Reilly + Johnson but Johnson apparently has a concussion.....
 
RussianRangersFan said:
Can anyone give a decent break down on ROR? Based on some of the things I read, he could be like a ryan callahan in the center position (in terms of effect and on ice intelligence). If that's the case, that's amazing.
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Blocks shots, hits, led the league in takeaways last season. Plays against the opposing teams top line. Just turned 22 a week ago. Had a 55 point season at age 20.
 
RangerBoy said:
Friedman reported the Rangers talked to the Avs this week. O'Reilly and a defenseman to the Rangers. DZ was the main player in the deal but the Avs kept adding players. The Rangers backed away. Healey reported the Avs want 2 roster players,top prospect and top pick. The Avs have targeted some teams in the O'Reilly talks. Goligoski went for Neal and Niskanen.
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I wouldn't do O'Reilly for MDZ straight up.
 
RussianRangersFan said:
Can anyone give a decent break down on ROR? Based on some of the things I read, he could be like a ryan callahan in the center position (in terms of effect and on ice intelligence). If that's the case, that's amazing.
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He plays a similar game to Patrice Bergeron. Very good defensive player. High hockey IQ. Good hands. Strong on his skates.
 
Kershaw said:
This is awful for the Rangers.
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woah, not this I would disagree with entirely. O'Reilly is wayyy better than Boyle (though still overrated by many), and if we got a premiere D man back too? even though losing Del Zotto would hurt, the Rangers would win that trade
 
RussianRangersFan said:
Can anyone give a decent break down on ROR? Based on some of the things I read, he could be like a ryan callahan in the center position (in terms of effect and on ice intelligence). If that's the case, that's amazing.
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The comparable I have always felt was best was Patrice Bergeron. EDIT - In terms of STYLE.

Same draft as Kreider, turned 22 a week ago. Really has only had one season that he is trying to cash in on, but it was a good year.

Risk is that it was a fluke year or a product of his linemates. Upside is the kind of all-around guy that is really difficult to find, especially so young.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
woah, not this I would disagree with entirely. O'Reilly is wayyy better than Boyle (though still overrated by many), and if we got a premiere D man back too? even though losing Del Zotto would hurt, the Rangers would win that trade
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I don't think Johnson is a premier defenseman.
 
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