Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXII: St Louis vs St Louis

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The point is how can you take what he says over what Boomer says in this situation?

Boomer gives names. Those trades happen.

Brooks has never done that.

I like Boomer and his track record, though a small number, speaks for itself. I'm inclined to believe him as well.

That said, we have to be careful in overhyping him because even if this doesn't go through, it doesn't mean it wasn't, at some stage, a very close thing. I don't want him discredited down to Eklund levels if this fails to materialize. We all know how bipolar our fan base can be.
 
What trades?

Brooks was right on the Nash trade the whole time.

Boomer was there with him. Same names. Erixon, Dubi, 1st, Arty in play too.

Boomer had the Gaborik trade to Columbus possibility. Others picked up on it.

The Klein for Del Zotto swap he told us about in November.
 
I dont see how Boomer Esiason can be faulted for anything here.
He stood behind what he tweeted this morning.
If in fact he was chosen to be point man on this thing, I think he's executed it admirably.

He's not Bob Woodward, but he's not foolish enough if someone from management whispers this in his ear (and essentially greenlights him to say it into a microphone) to not stop and realize if he blares 'Marty Marty" and "Cally Cally" and it doesnt happen it crushes him with the biggest die-hards of a team he loves -and a nice chunk of his audience who tunes in only because he often talks NYR hockey (and certainly not for the disgrace that is Chris Carton, who could well be the worst excuse for a supposed broadcaster of all time). .
So I'd bet anything Boomer asked whomever told him are you sure? Cause you know, you'd be leaving me totally out there with my **** in the wind.

The other thing no one points out as relevant is, this is such an unexpected swap, its just not the kind that gets made up.
 
Fair enough. I guess I just see it as poor planning.

Disagree and I'll tell you why. Teams who are trying to remain competitive at all times are always buyers and are always sellers. In those situations, you make the best trade based on a variety of factors, particularly the effect on the current team in the standings and the potential benefit to the organization in the future.

If one deal offered gives you a 38-year old PPG player and another gives you Jaskin and a 2nd round pick, which is really the better deal? Do the wins gained this year outweigh the potential for years forward? Chances are maybe 50/50 that Jaskin ends up a top-6 forward, although I'm pretty certain he's going to be a regular NHLer. Chances are far less than that with your 2nd round pick. Which is really the bigger gamble? Which is really poor planning?

There's definitely logic to saying that trading for prospects and picks is a huge gamble. And there is definitely merit to say that it's poor planning to only consider deals for prospects or young NHLers. To me, when your organization's goal is to stay competitive, you have to weigh all the risks and benefits of every potential deal, not just the ones that fit within a rigid philosophy.
 
Boomer was there with him. Same names. Erixon, Dubi, 1st, Arty in play too.

Boomer had the Gaborik trade to Columbus possibility. Others picked up on it.

The Klein for Del Zotto swap he told us about in November.

I think Boomer knows someone who openly discusses who the Rangers have on their radar with him. Whether or not the trades materialize is another thing, but his info comes from the top. Brooks info is much less specific most of the time yet it's still solid.
 
I think Boomer knows someone who openly discusses who the Rangers have on their radar with him. Whether or not the trades materialize is another thing, but his info comes from the top. Brooks info is much less specific most of the time yet it's still solid.

I agree. I'm talking strictly limited to breaking trades. Boomer's sources should supersede Brooks' in terms of legitimacy.
 
I'll admit to not knowing a lot about Boomer, but I think him claiming he called the lockout's end a week before it happened is hilarious. Doesn't that mean he was early/wrong on that? I mean, I had it months before it happened!

Though he was first on this St. Louis scoop. I think he was quite over-exurberant on it, though.
 
I'll admit to not knowing a lot about Boomer, but I think him claiming he called the lockout's end a week before it happened is hilarious. Doesn't that mean he was early/wrong on that? I mean, I had it months before it happened!

Though he was first on this St. Louis scoop. I think he was quite over-exurberant on it, though.

To be fair, he called it the night before.
 
Because he's going to age 15 years the moment the trade is processed.

rudum

Yeah, I mean, there are some saying there's no way in hell he's a good player in a couple of years. I don't think that people get that St. Louis is not the norm. Dude is Ray Sheppard in terms of longevity but better than Sheppard ever was.
 
I'll admit to not knowing a lot about Boomer, but I think him claiming he called the lockout's end a week before it happened is hilarious. Doesn't that mean he was early/wrong on that? I mean, I had it months before it happened!

Though he was first on this St. Louis scoop. I think he was quite over-exurberant on it, though.

I've always thought that was ridiculous too. Some people here worship the guy, though, apparently.
 
Yeah, I mean, there are some saying there's no way in hell he's a good player in a couple of years. I don't think that people get that St. Louis is not the norm. Dude is Ray Sheppard in terms of longevity but better than Sheppard ever was.

He's up there for sure. The amount of good he'll do for our young players too could be worth it's weight in Callahans.

Put MSL on a line with Kreider and sit back.
 
Sure, with enough shots at it, he's bound to get it right!

From what I remember, that's not how it went at all. In fact, the night before the lockout ending, when Boomer said it would, was really the only time in that process he said anything about the lockout ending.

Yeah, yeah. Broken clock, blind squirrel, etc... etc...

I think it's unwise to deny that Boomer has a source high up in the Rangers organization.
 
Whatever happened to discuss the rumor, not the source? (even though I'm guilty of it in here too)

I never got that rule. I'm in Boomer's court, but it's not like people are criticizing an HF member or saying this in a newspaper. If the source is unreliable (don't think that's Boomer), then it calls into question the rumor. Why is that taboo here?
 
I dont know I should put this out there LOL, but somebody sent me all these pics of MSL in his underwear.

The guy is a friggin'sculpted mini-tank; and last I saw him skate he can definitely still scamper. Not like he once did, which was ridiculous, but he can move.

Id bet he plays to 41-42 pretty easy.

Here's one more potential benefit I havent seen;

what if MSL teaches Zuc even 2-3 small man tricks? How much better does that makes Zuccarello? and what kind of player are we talking about then?

That's why, lots of ground to cover on this one.
 
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