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I am obviously a fan of Boyle, but at this point I am more inclined to let him walk than re-sign him with Miller and Lindbergh on the way.
Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XIX: The Olympic Freeze
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Thirty One
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Raspewtin
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You realize Kelly was a better player than Boyle ever was when he signed that contract? He's definitely declining, but he was worth his contract.
Nobody is denying that Boyle is important, we are saying Boyle isn't worth $2 mill even with the increasing cap.
You are saying that.
My opinion differs.
So does the opinion of others, by the looks of the conversation.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Boyle currently makes $1.7M, and that was signed as a RFA. $2M would be a great price for him, I would expect him to get an upwards of $3M per on the open market.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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I guess we'll see. I just don't see how he gets north of 2.5 unless some team's GM ***** the bed.
BobMarleyNYR
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Me too.But I think 1.5M is his real value. His size/reach in itself is a commodity, but he's really not good at anything. He's Gaustad all over again...
To the earlier debate, I do think Moore and Boyle make each other obsolete. Boyle has size, but Moore has speed and is cheaper... take Moore, trade Boyle to BOS for their 2nd, next year's 3rd... and learn to draft.
BobMarleyNYR
Rangers future on D
Boyle has size but so did Marek Malik... having size is nice if you know how to use it to your advantage.. Boyle still does not.. not talking about fighting. he is not really aggressive either with his size. David Backes has size although is 6'3 230 but he is more noticeable with it then Brian Boyle at 6'7 250
jerseyjinx94
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I think you're $1.5M is quite low, but I understand what you're saying. However, I don't think you can judge a player's value based solely on hockey skills/technique. You must consider other factors, such as grit, energy, leadership, loyalty, effect on the locker room, etc. Not that Boyle has all of those, but they add to his value. His value is somewhere around $2.25M in my eyes, based on everything. He will probably get more in an open market, but maybe not if we sign him prior to him reaching that market.
jerseyjinx94
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This team is 29-17-3 since going 3-7.
To put that in perspective, if we had gone 5-5 in those games, we'd be 34-22-3, have 71 points, tied for third in the East.
This is a team that should be adding, not subtracting.
At worst, if we are trading guys, we should be making supplemental moves to counteract the loss.
Just my opinion.
To put that in perspective, if we had gone 5-5 in those games, we'd be 34-22-3, have 71 points, tied for third in the East.
This is a team that should be adding, not subtracting.
At worst, if we are trading guys, we should be making supplemental moves to counteract the loss.
Just my opinion.
Glen Sathers Cigar
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Just throwing this out there.
In 33 playoff games Boyle has 6 goals. Kelly has 12 in 90 playoff games. Actually, Boyle was held scoreless in 2010-11 so it's really 6 goals in only 28 games.
To be honest I like Boyle. I always have, probably more than most on here. I think he's a great team guy, he seems to be great in the room and he's always willing to sacrifice his body and stick up for his team mates. Most of all, the past two seasons, he's really elevated his play in the playoffs. He's one guy on this team who absolutely steps up in the playoffs.
I want him re-signed. Preferably under 2.5 a season. 2.2x4 years would be just swell by me. You need the glue guys.
yea let's resign him so Lindberg can spend another year in the AHL
Lindberg should be called up just in case Boyle walks. remember as a first time UFA, he might take advantage of that. players like him dont play long.. how many 4th line forwards that play past the age of 33 (likely a 5 year deal as an UFA)... not many...
Thirty One
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How many 4th liners get 5 year deals?yea let's resign him so Lindberg can spend another year in the AHL
Prust got a 4 year deal so its off by one year
. i think as a 1st time UFA, he might try for 5.. players like them dont last long... if i was an UFA id try to get the longest deal because at any time it could be their last...
Thirty One
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I'm sure Boyle would like a 5 year deal. But why would a team give it to him?Prust got a 4 year deal so its off by one year
Its much better to have Lindberg develop on our 4th line when we hope he tops out as a top 6 player and bottoms out as a top 9 forward....than to have Boyle who actually fits the role of a 4th liner and reduced minutes even strength. Quality development there. Reminds me of how we attempted to develop Maholtra and Lundmark.
Boyle should be re-signed and the logic around the distaste for him is asinine.
Boyle should be re-signed and the logic around the distaste for him is asinine.
Some guys here didn't think Prust would get a stupid contract, but he did. I think Boyle finds a new home this summer, something like 4/11.
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Barnaby
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Yea, and Malik had a pretty good career here until the end.
He's not the tough presence you want, but he does hit. He also uses his size/reach on the PK.
Who said he's Backes…? I could name a players bigger or smaller who are more or less physical. He doesn't have the skill or attitude of Backes, but what's your point? He's a 4th line center - not a first line center…
I'm not even looking to resign the guy because he'll probably get 2.5-3 million, but the hate on him is stupid. Comparing him to Backes is ridiculous.
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