What's the alternative? Run Stepan/Brassard/Miller down the middle? We're in win now mode. Stastny is still an impact player that's good in all areas of the ice. He had a huge playoffs and is, IMO the piece that puts this team over the top if he can get Nash going. Best of all, he costs no assets to acquire. He's simply an upgrade over Richards after he's bought out
Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXIV: Over the edge of being a little closer.
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the alternative is not spending 7m$+ on a 50-60 point center, saving that money, signing a stop gap if necessary and wait for a good trade.
Just throwing money at the biggest UFA has been the strategy for this team way too long.
zuckera1
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Who's more likely to underperform here? 70-point Stanley cup winning Eric Staal at 6 million (salary retained by Carolina) for 2 years? Or Paul friggin Stastny at 7 million for 7 years.
Guys, Stastny is not the answer. Prior to this season he had two down years and now all of the young talent around him is inflating his point totals (assists).
If we're in win-now mode and truly want to go for it, I'd trade Hagelin and Miller for Staal or Brassard and Hagelin if needbe. Eric Stall is a legit 1C, and he's got a lot left in the tank.
Guys, Stastny is not the answer. Prior to this season he had two down years and now all of the young talent around him is inflating his point totals (assists).
If we're in win-now mode and truly want to go for it, I'd trade Hagelin and Miller for Staal or Brassard and Hagelin if needbe. Eric Stall is a legit 1C, and he's got a lot left in the tank.
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zuckera1
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Agreed. MUCH worse. People say things like "oh he's only 28" yeah and after we give him 7 years we deal with him declining from ages 31-35
Eric Staal and 2 million (?) retained is going to cost a hefty price. I'd buyout Richards and let JTM and Lindberg fight for that spot. Maybe it doesnt work out and we have poor center depth. If nothing else Lindberg can win faceoffs. Just for the love of god dont throw 7 million at Stastny
haohmaru
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Completely with you on that. Stastny isn't the answer and Eric is only a year older. Can't see Hurricanes dealing him, though, as bad as it's been for them.
Rather Step-Brass-Miller than Statsny at 8m per for 7 years, no doubt.
Miller is a good player with a lot of potential. Also, you need a mix on a team but often a Cup winner is driven pretty heavily by a handful of player south of 25, not 30-35 y/o.
Staal has one more year on his contract so his new contract wouldn't affect the team until the 15-16 season. His cap will be 3,975 million next season no matter what. Come 15-16 the cap might rise again making it very managable keeping that d-core intact.
I see no reason to let Stralman walk. He's been solid and most importantly performed well in all three playoffs he's been a part of. He's an asset in which case. If I'm not mistaken, teams are allowed to be 10% over the cap over the summer. IMO you sign him and head into the summer with as many assets as possible.
Vinny DeAngelo
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I'm about to out sather all of u guys
THE GLEN SATHER DEFENSIVE PROJECT
Ryan Mcdonagh-PK SUBBAN
Marc Staal-Dan Girardi
John Moore-Kevin Klein
He's how it goes. Sather watches this post season and sees subban is a rfa then decides to go all Paul holmgren and sign PK to an offer sheet for $7.5 mill a year for 6 years. Locking up the defense as Mcdonagh girardi and subban. He uses all the money from buying out Richards on a new shiny offensive d-man... Or maybe he buys out Nash instead because we are a win now team and he takes up more cap in the present
THE GLEN SATHER DEFENSIVE PROJECT
Ryan Mcdonagh-PK SUBBAN
Marc Staal-Dan Girardi
John Moore-Kevin Klein
He's how it goes. Sather watches this post season and sees subban is a rfa then decides to go all Paul holmgren and sign PK to an offer sheet for $7.5 mill a year for 6 years. Locking up the defense as Mcdonagh girardi and subban. He uses all the money from buying out Richards on a new shiny offensive d-man... Or maybe he buys out Nash instead because we are a win now team and he takes up more cap in the present
Statsny has already shown signs of decline in his production the after his first $6M+ contract, you know its going to happen again. He isn't the best center on his team, and has had playing time with some stud wingers.
He's a good player, but it will be worse than Richards in terms of signing him. The team should give a run of Stepan-Miller-Brassard down the middle if a viable center isn't available through trade.
If that set up doesn't work, you make a trade next season. If Eric Staal can be had for cheap or gutting the organization (Rangers don't exactly have a lot of assets to trade), then you explore that option. But this past year, Staal played his best hockey on LW, after he was moved from center. If you recall a couple of games the Rangers won against the Canes, and the lack of a backcheck from the Carolina Captain, you can see why his name is out there. Could very well be a Rick Nash redux or he could be motivated to play well, you just don't know when guys are signed to big money and term, lots of players under contracts like that lose their motivation.
He's a good player, but it will be worse than Richards in terms of signing him. The team should give a run of Stepan-Miller-Brassard down the middle if a viable center isn't available through trade.
If that set up doesn't work, you make a trade next season. If Eric Staal can be had for cheap or gutting the organization (Rangers don't exactly have a lot of assets to trade), then you explore that option. But this past year, Staal played his best hockey on LW, after he was moved from center. If you recall a couple of games the Rangers won against the Canes, and the lack of a backcheck from the Carolina Captain, you can see why his name is out there. Could very well be a Rick Nash redux or he could be motivated to play well, you just don't know when guys are signed to big money and term, lots of players under contracts like that lose their motivation.
Stastny's decline had a lot to do with major shoulder problems. It wasn't a result of him mailing it in after he got a huge contract. That being said, he's not a $7M player, IMO.
Did somebody really suggest that Paul Stastny is the missing piece to put them over the top and on top of it be the guy to get Nash going? OMG. This is why I rarely post this much anymore on here. Funniest thing I have heard today. You have a better chance of brassard turning into an 80
Point player then that. Now I'm just hoping Sather doesn't have the same idea as that guy.
Point player then that. Now I'm just hoping Sather doesn't have the same idea as that guy.
There's not 1 player on this team I want gone more then Nash but he's not being bought out. Richards is. He HAS to be bought out.
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So true.
Gotta admit though, the idea of Subban on this team is salivatory. We'd be the best defense in the league on paper bar none. He'd be worth the four 1st round picks. Get a couple of 1st's back by liquidating Nash down the line.
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Subban would be a ridiculously amazing pick up. Not like he's pushing 30, he's 24 and the definition of a big game player.
That said, Montreal wouldn't move him. And if we offersheeted him, they'd match.
That said, Montreal wouldn't move him. And if we offersheeted him, they'd match.
Vinny DeAngelo
Jimmy Easy to defend
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
People don't seem to be able to grasp these things. Someone earlier said something about waiting for a good trade? You could wait a year or two before a good trade appears. Im sorry but trading for Eric Staal (who will cost major assets) would be a 10x more idiotic move than giving Stastny an 8x8 contract. Im not saying Stastny is the answer or that we should sign him. I just think it is a much less moronic move then trading for a guy like Eric Staal.
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I have to agree here. The gap between Staal and Stastny isn't all that great. Staal is on the decline. He may have one more outlying season of 75 points or so, but he'll be right in Derek Stepan territory of a good 55-60 point two way center. What exactly would be the difference that puts Staal above Stepan besides size?
I would rather trade for Spezza, and that's saying something. I want no part of Spezza either. Both him and Staal are going to decline from this point forward, not maintain or improve production. Sather missed the boat on Seguin last year. Ryan Callahan, JT Miller, Brady Skjei, and another one of our B prospects would've been a similar package to Dallas'. I would've given that to Boston no questions asked.
Edmonton is going to trade Yakupov this summer. But since Sather blew his load on MSL, we won't have the assets to make it happen unless Edmonton wants Kevin Klein and Carl Hagelin. We're not trading Marc Staal.
Acquiring young elite talent that becomes available is the key to building a contender, not signing or trading for former stars on the decline.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Eriksson>>> Callahan. I doubt that package would have gotten us Seguin. Eriksson was a premier two way player at the time. A consistent 60-70 point player.
HatTrick Swayze
Just Be Nice
Yakupov would be more of the same problems. 0% chance a one dimensional sniper ever leads the Rangers to a Cup. Zero.
I wouldn't be so sure about that... Yak's value is super low, and if they are keeping Eakins, they will move Yakupov. Edm's defense is composed of a bunch of 4-6 defenseman, most of them in experienced or unable to play against top 6 NHL competition. They want top 4 defensemen. I don't know if they'll package Yak, or trade him for multiple pieces but he's getting moved when his value will be super low.
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