HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread: From Here to Free Agency

[Locks]

2C?
He's injured so much hes more like a 3C(PO)

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I'll let myself out.

He is obviously nowhere near 2C now. I wrote that he was brought in to develop into 2C, but it was derailed by injuries. I am not sure what your point is.

 

[Erika Zharovsky]

This is my thoughts exactly.

If we do absolutely nothing before 2027-28, we could potentially ice:

Slafkovsky / Suzuki / Caufield
Zharovsky / Hage / Demidov (people may think Hage isn't an NHL center but he'll 100% get his shot at it)
Newhook / Kapanen / Beck
Bolduc / Evans / Anderson

Matheson / Dobson
Hutson / Reinbacher
Guhle / Engstrom

I don't care what anyone thinks, I think that'd be a heckuva roster.

I like your lineup, but I'll fix it for you so that the Habs are a real contender, meaning bigger, meaner and more aggressive forechecks.

Slafkovsky / Suzuki / Hage
Zharovsky / Beniers / Demidov
Texier / Kapanen / big & mean W
Newhook / Big & mean 4C / Anderson

Hutson / Dobson
Guhle / Reinbacher
Big & mean LHD / big & mean RHD

Traded:

• Dach
• Caufield
• Matheson
• Struble
• Bolduc
• Xhekaj
• Carrier
• Evans
• Engstrom
• Fowler

No teams in the modern era has won a Stanley Cup with homegrown players alone. You need to make trades and sign UFA to surround your core at some point. Take a look at all the recent Cup champions. Their roster are made of core homegrown talents, trades and UFA.

 

[Habssince89]

Anders Lee about to hit free agency. Could be a nice addition for some « weight » and leadership to that top 6/top 9. Could probably play some minutes with Suze and CC, does he PK ?

he's 36, so term is an issue as is salary. I think if he's looking to win and is okay with taking less to help us win he would be a fantastic veteran to bring into the room. Assuming he is a decent version of himself on the ice, he's exactly what we need. I just don't know if he has the mobility. I guess our team might sacrifice some speed if we bring in heavier players, but that might be okay if we're still fast overall.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Do what you can to get Greer and Marchment.

Marchment would be better, however...

Dallas traded him to Seattle because of the lower tax state.

His father passed away here.

More so the first, but could be two reasons why he isnt coming here.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I like your lineup, but I'll fix it for you so that the Habs are a real contender, meaning bigger, meaner and more aggressive forechecks.

Slafkovsky / Suzuki / Hage
Zharovsky / Beniers / Demidov
Texier / Kapanen / big & mean W
Newhook / Big & mean 4C / Anderson

Hutson / Dobson
Guhle / Reinbacher
Big & mean LHD / big & mean RHD

Traded:

• Dach
• Caufield
• Matheson
• Struble
• Bolduc
• Xhekaj
• Carrier
• Evans
• Engstrom
• Fowler

No teams in the modern era has won a Stanley Cup with homegrown players alone. You need to make trades and sign UFA to surround your core at some point. Take a look at all the recent Cup champions. Their roster are made of core homegrown talents, trades and UFA.

I'm with Erika. Moar Bigger please.

Way Moar Bigger,

Hischier is absolutely not the answer.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

There has been some AJ Greer hype, but I don't want to pay bottom 6 players looking to cash out. You want to do what Florida did and find them off the scrap heap.

 

[habsfan891]

Can you imagine Shea Weber trying to play man to man D? System needs to change for D like that to be effective. Pronger is probably the best skating physical D man of all time and I don’t think he’d even look good trying to chase out to the points - and even if he could you then have Caufield trying to box out the crease.

I 100% agree this dogshit system needs to change asap or it doesn't matter what defenceman we trade for next season will look exactly the same

 

[Rapala]

Early talk is Colorado was unhappy with Nelson not Kadri. The core guys love Kadri and won't want to lose him again unless Kadri asks to leave. I doubt he does. Likely retires an Av.

They likely keep Kadri and give him a bigger role next year instead of trying to squeeze him into wherever he can fit. Nelson and Nichushkin on the hot seat.

So they didn't like their Selke candidate?

 

[Rapala]

Can you imagine Shea Weber trying to play man to man D? System needs to change for D like that to be effective. Pronger is probably the best skating physical D man of all time and I don’t think he’d even look good trying to chase out to the points - and even if he could you then have Caufield trying to box out the crease.

Weber would stare down Robidas and we'd be playing zone before you know it.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I'm with Erika. Moar Bigger please.

Way Moar Bigger,

Hischier is absolutely not the answer.

Most of the predictable players breathlessly talked about here are not the answer.

 

[Kosseca]

Most of the predictable players breathlessly talked about here are not the answer.

That and this is a line up that wont win a cup for until 3 more seasons. At that point, MTL will have lost significant "cup window" with the good contract of Slaf and Suzuki.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

That and this is a line up that wont win a cup for until 3 more seasons. At that point, MTL will have lost significant "cup window" with the good contract of Slaf and Suzuki.

That Cup window won’t open until those young core players ( Hutson, Demidov, Slafkovsky) reach their respective peak performance levels. Trading away key future assets, won’t speed up that process. Failure to recognize this is very Leaf Nation like.

 

[Nevins]

Reinbacher?

He needs more AHL experience...

 

[vokiel]

He needs more AHL experience...

He needs to find a way to avoid injuries than anything else.

 

[Rapala]

1) Trade Kapanen and Reinbacher for Mason Mctavish (is it too much?)
2) Sign Connor Murphy 14M for 3 years
3) Sign AJ Greer 14M for 4 years

If a signed Mason McTavish doesn't bring in two very decent pieces plus in a bidding war I'd be astounded.
Most baseline predicitions start at a highish end roster ready player and a first round pick.
I wonder if Engstrom might interest them as he can play RD they are probably losing Goodass but signing Trouba.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I like your lineup, but I'll fix it for you so that the Habs are a real contender, meaning bigger, meaner and more aggressive forechecks.

Slafkovsky / Suzuki / Hage
Zharovsky / Beniers / Demidov
Texier / Kapanen / big & mean W
Newhook / Big & mean 4C / Anderson

Hutson / Dobson
Guhle / Reinbacher
Big & mean LHD / big & mean RHD

Traded:

• Dach
• Caufield
• Matheson
• Struble
• Bolduc
• Xhekaj
• Carrier
• Evans
• Engstrom
• Fowler

No teams in the modern era has won a Stanley Cup with homegrown players alone. You need to make trades and sign UFA to surround your core at some point. Take a look at all the recent Cup champions. Their roster are made of core homegrown talents, trades and UFA.

So trade half the roster of the youngest team that just made it to the ECF and are way ahead of the rebuild to add 4 "big mean bodies" and Berniers.

Like seriously... WTAF??

 

[Rapala]

That Cup window won’t open until those young core players ( Hutson, Demidov, Slafkovsky) reach their respective peak performance levels. Trading away key future assets, won’t speed up that process. Failure to recognize this is very Leaf Nation like.

So true but it's not surprising some think we can trade away the future to fix all the holes on this team right now.
I'll be happy if we fix one glaring hole over the summer.

 

[Nevins]

He needs to find a way to avoid injuries than anything else.

Also

 

[ChesterNimitz]

So true but it's not surprising some think we can trade away the future to fix all the holes on this team right now.
I'll be happy if we fix one glaring hole over the summer.

With the departure of Laine, Gallagher and probably Dach, Hughes will have the roster and cap flexibility to make moves that will improve the team short term without sacrificing too much of the team’s greatest wealth: future assets and potential. I have some trust that Hughes is wise enough to understand both the team’s current level of competitiveness and the great value / potential of those prized prospects that he has been able to acquire.

 

[Nedved]

Honestly, it's pretty exciting to think we might get a 2nd line center this off-season. I don't even care what futures it holds if it turns us into a contender. We need a Thomas or Hischier or Barkov coming our way. We need that type of center. If we end up with a 2nd line center and sign a RD if Reinbacher is part of a trade, I'm happy going into the next season.

 

[Ozmodiar]

That Cup window won’t open until those young core players ( Hutson, Demidov, Slafkovsky) reach their respective peak performance levels. Trading away key future assets, won’t speed up that process. Failure to recognize this is very Leaf Nation like.

Demidov will peak at around 24, 25 … when Suzuki is in his 30’s.

Hughes won’t wait that long. He said as much. They just went to the conf finals - the leaf comp does not apply. Improvement is the goal every season. That means the Finals next season.

I think what people don’t understand is that when the cup window opens, when you “go for it”, it can still take several kicks at the can to succeed.

 

[Habs Halifax]

That Cup window won’t open until those young core players ( Hutson, Demidov, Slafkovsky) reach their respective peak performance levels. Trading away key future assets, won’t speed up that process. Failure to recognize this is very Leaf Nation like.

Very true but it's a double whammy IMO.

Stay patient and let the core get into their prime years while the youth behind them also grows. Continue on for 2 more years on the current course.
vs
Make a few moves now because this is our cap spot sweet years and the team is missing 1 or 2 pieces to be a real contender starting now vs later.

There is no easy answer to this. A big part of me says to let the other teams overpay for centers over the next year ish and then make a move after that (when GM's spend all their cap space). Lets make our aggressive move after that waive of aggression of cap space spending and bloated traded prices.

What I see if us fans looking at any available player and drooling over them every case. Lets wait for the right type that fits our needs and not caters to our premature wants.

 

[vokiel]

Demidov will peak at around 24, 25 … when Suzuki is in his 30’s.

Hughes won’t wait that long. He said as much. They just went to the conf finals - the leaf comp does not apply. Improvement is the goal every season. That means the Finals next season.

I think what people don’t understand is that when the cup window opens, when you “go for it”, it can still take several kicks at the can to succeed.

There are chances Suzuki is hitting UFA before Demidov and/or Hutson ever peak as well.

They need to pounce this summer or the next imho, and no paper tiger pouncing.

 

[Le Tricolore]

Demidov will peak at around 24, 25 … when Suzuki is in his 30’s.

Hughes won’t wait that long. He said as much. They just went to the conf finals - the leaf comp does not apply. Improvement is the goal every season. That means the Finals next season.

I think what people don’t understand is that when the cup window opens, when you “go for it”, it can still take several kicks at the can to succeed.

Obviously the finals next year would be great, but success isn't linear.

 

[Ozmodiar]

There are chances Suzuki is hitting UFA before Demidov and/or Hutson ever peak as well.

They need to pounce this summer or the next imho, and no paper tiger pouncing.

Yes. There's a window opening now, then another (hopefully overlapping) that has demidov as the top forward when suzuki hits his 30s.

(Why i want them to keep hage … i dont want them shopping for a 1C to play with demidov).