HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread: From Here to Free Agency

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

GMs stop working on the weekend, too ?

 

[eklund the clown]

I used to like it better when a few leaks here and there came out and turned out to be true.Nobody has a clue with Hughes/Gorton .They don't leak anything

 

[CapSpace]

I know we need a C but god I'd love Jason Robertson here. Dallas can't seem to commit to him but they threw the entire bank at Rantanen.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I wouldn't be surprised if we head into the season with Kapanen as the second-line center. Knies isn't getting traded if the rumored ask is correct.

For what it's worth, Chayka was asked about Knies and he said that a trade for him wouldn't be a big hurdle to jump. I don't know if he said it meaning he is still on the block or if he said it mainly that Knies is so good that it wouldn't be hard to move him for something substantial. I only read the transcript of that, didn't hear it to understand the context of the comment.

 

[Flip The Bird]

I could hack Boeser playing with Demidov for sure. I think he'd be decent in the playoffs as well. It'd be better than an EP40 deal.

Like you said though, it'd depend on the ask for VAN along with Gallagher.

Border is Laine or Dach 2.0. He lacks heart and has bad contract. Stay away from these kind of players.

 

[Balthazar]

Laffy may be cheap to acquire and while nothing special, he's a legitimate top 6. Every time you add on top, the column gets stacked. Same for McT

With Lafreniere you’re banking on him elevating his game when it matters most, specifically in the playoffs. He’s shown that ability at every stage of his career. He’s also a big body who isn’t just a perimeter player.

 

[Whitesnake]

Let's transform the look into actual result. Yes...I'm advocating for Shane Wright. Yes, I konw, i wasn't a fan of the last playoffs I saw him in, reason why he wasn't exactly my overall No1 choice for the draft. But now, he has evolve. And will want to prove even more that we did great to go and get him. I would get Beniers first...but they won't.

Wright did great with the icetime and linemates he had.

 

[Balthazar]

Would you do Zharovsky, Dach, 2026 1st and Pickford for Trocheck and Lafreniere?

Trocheck alone is worth more than that package on the current market. The issue with him is he's American and likely won't waive for a Canadian team. Just like Larkin.

Trocheck is a legit 2C on a great contract, about half the league is looking for that.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Trocheck alone is worth more than that package on the current market. The issue with him is he's American and likely won't waive for a Canadian team. Just like Larkin.

Trocheck is NOT worth near that package. If some other idiot GM wants to offer a comaparabel package they can have him

 

[Archijerej]

Let's transform the look into actual result. Yes...I'm advocating for Shane Wright. Yes, I konw, i wasn't a fan of the last playoffs I saw him in, reason why he wasn't exactly my overall No1 choice for the draft. But now, he has evolve. And will want to prove even more that we did great to go and get him. I would get Beniers first...but they won't.

Wright did great with the icetime and linemates he had.

Wright could be a smart target, but I'm not sure we have what Seattle is looking for.

Apparently, they want a forward that would add some punch to their offense.

 

[CHfan1]

The silence is killing me no rumors know nothing

A whole lot of talk and rumors for, yet again, a whole lot of nothing going on

We’re only a few days into the off-season. Typically nothing happens until it gets closer to the draft, or even draft day itself. It was the same last year around this time when fans were already resigned to nothing happening in the offseason and the Habs traded for Dobson on draft day.

 

[Guy Larose]

 

[Habs13]

Sick Podcast talking on us signing Trevor van Riemsdyk.

Remember when Fat Tony said Joe Veleno was going to be a star in Montreal...

 

[DAChampion]

That is a completely different summary than the alleged truth we were told last week.

 

[WinterLion]

This makes perfect sense.

So in other words. They asked for Hage and we said no....

Then some schmuck see's an opportunity to gets clicks and... voila a dumb rumour... How many other teams do you think asked about him... about 30 but more clicks from Habs...

 

[dinodebino]

Wow, ok. This is more believable. Totally a different story.

 

[Jaynki]

Trocheck alone is worth more than that package on the current market. The issue with him is he's American and likely won't waive for a Canadian team. Just like Larkin.

Trocheck is a legit 2C on a great contract, about half the league is looking for that.

He is 33 years old. Might not even be a quality NHLer in 2 years.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I'm not saying Dreger doesn't have the right info, but many are saying the deal was struck, it just came a minute or less after the 3PM deadline. So I don't really believe Dreger. If the call was made, even if it was a hair too late, it means Treliving didn't cut bait.

Meanwhile, you have multiple people report that it was Zharovsky going to Toronto. Some insiders mentioned that Hage was never part of the deal.

 

[Balthazar]

He is 33 years old. Might not even be a quality NHLer in 2 years.

Supply and demand.

 

[Miller Time]

first of all I don't think those 2 teams are any similar, one plays a unique system that is hard to play and only works if everyone plays it perfectly, with very few top end talent. The other plays literal cheating despicable trash hockey with some solid talent in the lineup

Similarity is in the organization approach... Coach culture driven, high degree of buy in top to bottom in the org, schrewd asset management balancing targeted buy low high upside players that fit culture and playstyle.

I didn't mean to imply similar in the specific on ice play.

second of all we're not on the same track as neither of those teams I have no idea what you're talking about if i'm being honest.

See above.

We're much closer to the Oilers or Leafs in terms of team building and philosophy than we are to those other 2 (not in a pejorative way, the Leafs really f***ed up at some point in terms of culture, oilers made back to back heartbreaking cup finals)

That's absolutely not the case. Our organizational approach couldn't be further from either lol

And both failed rebuilds were centered on generational (or near) draft picks that were elite performers within 1-3 years of being drafted. While Hutson has emerged to be that, and Demidov may end up that, our core doesn't have the McDrai/Matthews-Marner high cap % core players that the GM(s) are then trying to build around.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Wow, ok. This is more believable. Totally a different story.

Not to me. Most insiders said that the deal was struck and the reason it didn't go through is it came moments after the 3PM deadline. So going by most insiders, Treliving did NOT cut and bait because a deal was agreed to.

 

[Richiebottles]

Another target, who is probably not available but could be for a package of futures…

Roope Hintz. I wonder if Dallas would ever entertain trading him.

 

[Noble]

This is a lot more believable.

I personally consider the "one minute late" story complete bullshit. Doesn't make sense. You can still make trades after the deadline, the catch is the players cant play for your team until the following season.

Sure, Habs wouldnt have had Knies for the playoffs, but they'd still get him for the next 5 years. The package of Zharovsky, Pickford, and two firsts are all futures and wouldnt have helped the Habs for the rest of the year anyway. Hughes still elects to go through with the trade in that scenario.

On the other side, Leafs were tanking and wouldnt have cared if Knies was there for the rest of the season anyway, and if they were happy with the package they would have had no reason to not go through with it either.

Truth is Habs likely offered Zharovsky, Pickford, and two firsts. Leafs wanted Hage instead of Zharovsky. Negotiations went down to the wire but neither team budged.

The most drama I can see happening is Treliving perhaps did cave at the last minute, told Hughes it was a done deal, Hughes filed the trade with central registry, then Treliving either got cold feet and let the deadline pass, or was shut down by ownership.

 

[Jaynki]

Supply and demand.

True. Curious to see for what he goes.

 

[Balthazar]

Another target, who is probably not available but could be for a package of futures…

Roope Hintz. I wonder if Dallas would ever entertain trading him.

Considering how they fared in the playoffs without him, I’d say no.