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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread 92 Waiting on the DRAFT Edition

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Even if Zegras got back to being a 60pt C. He's a defensive nightmare and he's not big or physical.

This isn't about getting any 2C, it's about getting the right one. The right 2C is one with a physical game, defensive acumen and the ability to keep up with Demidov offensively.

The Horvats of the world. Not the Zegras or Granlunds.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Even if Zegras got back to being a 60pt C. He's a defensive nightmare and he's not big or physical.

This isn't about getting any 2C, it's about getting the right one. The right 2C is one with a physical game, defensive acumen and the ability to keep up with Demidov offensively.

The Horvats of the world. Not the Zegras or Granlunds.
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Actually, Anton Lundell probably fits the bill better than most while being in the age group of the young core in Montreal.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Even if Zegras got back to being a 60pt C. He's a defensive nightmare and he's not big or physical.

This isn't about getting any 2C, it's about getting the right one. The right 2C is one with a physical game, defensive acumen and the ability to keep up with Demidov offensively.

The Horvats of the world. Not the Zegras or Granlunds.
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Laraque and Gonzo were debating witch Habs top prospect Hughes should "sacrifice" to get Horvat.
On the list of Fowler, Hage and Reinbacher they would absolutely keep Fowler because he's a top ncaa goalie for the last 2 years.* They would sacrifice Reinbacher over Hage for his past injuries. But the argument to lose a center to get a center makes sense (Hage). On the ice they might prefer Reinbacher for what he brings. It's strange his history of injuries makes them not beleive in him.

*In Mtl we strongly beleive in goalies to win a Cup. It was always that in the past and will be the same in the future. We are a team with a top goalie, that's the dna of the team.
 
Catanddogguitarrr said:
*In Mtl we strongly beleive in goalies to win a Cup. It was always that in the past and will be the same in the future. We are a team with a top goalie, that's the dna of the team.
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This is true for fans, everything is on the goalie, but I very much doubt that the current GM believes this. So it's kind of pointless if the discussion is about what is likely to happen, though is fine for a what random people think should.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Even if Zegras got back to being a 60pt C. He's a defensive nightmare and he's not big or physical.

This isn't about getting any 2C, it's about getting the right one. The right 2C is one with a physical game, defensive acumen and the ability to keep up with Demidov offensively.

The Horvats of the world. Not the Zegras or Granlunds.
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I don't want Zegras but I'm not sure I buy the idea that we need a 2C that leans defence. With Suzuki and our bottom-6 it just doesn't seem like it would be the biggest need. Like sure we don't want a defensive disaster but a top offensive guy with an average defensive game would be a good fit.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Don't see the Kraken moving him either. I'd take him for a 2C though. His limitations offensively aren't so bad in that hole.

Edit: Holy shit he's produced poorly since his rookie year. Yikes.
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You tell me i have is 1 of 1 rookie card dammit.

He's still young. 20 goals and 40 points for a 2nd line center is not great but it's not absolutely terrible either. I'd definitely take a gamble if he was to become available.
 
Catanddogguitarrr said:
Laraque and Gonzo were debating witch Habs top prospect Hughes should "sacrifice" to get Horvat.
On the list of Fowler, Hage and Reinbacher they would absolutely keep Fowler because he's a top ncaa goalie for the last 2 years.* They would sacrifice Reinbacher over Hage for his past injuries. But the argument to lose a center to get a center makes sense (Hage). On the ice they might prefer Reinbacher for what he brings. It's strange his history of injuries makes them not beleive in him.

*In Mtl we strongly beleive in goalies to win a Cup. It was always that in the past and will be the same in the future. We are a team with a top goalie, that's the dna of the team.
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For me, we don't trade any of the 3. But if we do, Reinbacher is the last I trade and it's not even close.
 
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Catanddogguitarrr said:
Laraque and Gonzo were debating witch Habs top prospect Hughes should "sacrifice" to get Horvat.
On the list of Fowler, Hage and Reinbacher they would absolutely keep Fowler because he's a top ncaa goalie for the last 2 years.* They would sacrifice Reinbacher over Hage for his past injuries. But the argument to lose a center to get a center makes sense (Hage). On the ice they might prefer Reinbacher for what he brings. It's strange his history of injuries makes them not beleive in him.

*In Mtl we strongly beleive in goalies to win a Cup. It was always that in the past and will be the same in the future. We are a team with a top goalie, that's the dna of the team.
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If Reinbacher is the price for Horvat i'd look at a cheaper stop gap personally. I'm more than willing to sacrifice a package of Mailloux, Beck, kapanen, 1st picks or the russians (not Demidov obviously) to get a center but Reinbacher for a 30 years old player this is looking like a potential Gomez 2.0 to me. You never know when a player will hit the wall. Toews was a pretty good player in his prime and he was done at 32. Player done at 31-33 is not as rare as people think it is.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
A year ago nobody on here wanted Dubois also. Now it is the steal of the year. He's a heavy 70 points.
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If we trade for EP and he get back to form, we have the best 1-2 punch at center after Edmonton. It would be a big risk though. Many red flags, including his knee.

I don't know. If the price is not prohibitive, I guess I would be ok with it.
 
Sorinth said:
This is true for fans, everything is on the goalie, but I very much doubt that the current GM believes this. So it's kind of pointless if the discussion is about what is likely to happen, though is fine for a what random people think should.
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I agree with the fans. What the GM beleives is unknowned but he will have to deal with the fanbase. We already saw he went his way, not the fans with the picks of Slaf and Rein and not Wright and Michkov.
But this is all speculations on the air, we know nothing how will be the negociations. Habs have 2 first rounds picks if that could help tho.
 
LaP said:
If Reinbacher is the price for Horvat i'd look at a cheaper stop gap personally. I'm more than willing to sacrifice a package of Mailloux, Beck, kapanen, 1st picks or the russians (not Demidov obviously) to get a center but Reinbacher for a 30 years old player this is looking like a potential Gomez 2.0 to me. You never know when a player will hit the wall. Toews was a pretty good player in his prime and he was done at 32. Player done at 31-33 is not as rare as people think it is.
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Don't worry about that. Reinbacher is the only potential top 4 RHD in the organization right now and we won't be able to draft one this summer. And those are even harder to trade for than top 6 C. He is going nowhere.
 
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Grate n Colorful Oz said:
I've even said im opened to overpay for Bennett, which is less than ideal.
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Makes total sense for a market that traditionally is unable to sign UFAs. Overpay and hope the targeted player buys into this team’s nucleus, coach and player-friendly management. If that fails, then dangle assets to get the job done, ideally dealing from strength/ redundancy.
 
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