HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #92: Waiting on the Draft edition

[Miller Time]

Lou should also retire this guy is washed. Just look at the recent extensions and dogshit deals he did.

I hope he stays there a long time. The more teams chasing their tails as we turn the corner, the better. Especially in the East.

 

[DAChampion]

Yes, and he sat out a couple of games towards the end. Not the player you want. No work ethic.

When Kovalev was 35 years old, he got 65 points in 78 games, during which he sat out a couple games.

Pause and reflect please.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

If Laine is like Kovalev, then keep Laine. Kovalev was key to the Habs when he was here.

Drouin is a much better comparison

 

[DAChampion]

Drouin is a much better comparison

Somehow I can't see Laine pointing out the other column.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

...anyone have thoughts on a trade for Barrett Hayton from Utah??...

I touted Hayton to go to Habs in the KK draft. Saw him a ton in junior and liked him.

Expected more by this point but playing in ‘Zona couldn’t have been good.

He seems to be doing better in Utah and would be an OK 2C who I think would thrive in Habs’ hockey environs.

As someone posted in another thread, Sam Bennett (!!!) but Hayton wouldn’t cost as much/seems realistic.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Somehow I can't see Laine pointing out the other column.

Yeah no kidding lol

 

[Habs7631]

On the other hand, the management is on record saying that this upcoming offseason is going to be very important, so it's not unreasonable to expect that they're going to pull every lever to pry that top 6 center. I wonder if we might see a player/prospect moved that will shock us.

Same. Gotta give to get. Other teams won’t give us their good centers for magic beans picks + Mailloux. I could see them exploring the trade value of Slaf or Guhle to get us a strong 1-2 punch down the middle. Especially Guhle with his injury history.

I wonder what kind of center we could get for a package built around either Slaf/Guhle, with adds-on like Beck/Kapanen/Mailloux/1 of our 2 1st.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I hope he stays there a long time. The more teams chasing their tails as we turn the corner, the better. Especially in the East.

Id take Horvat for Mailloux and Dach yo

 

[TomKosto]

Id take Horvat for Mailloux and Dach yo

Lets hope Lou is that stupid, maybe theres a chance lol

 

[Slafkofield]

Bennett and Hughes are on the same side of the fence, the Quartexx side.

So is Marner

 

[Slafkofield]

I don’t think getting guys like Beniers or Johnston are realistic tbh. I feel like they’ll go for someone older like an O’Reilly or Schenn, hopefully I’m wrong.

 

[HuGort]

...anyone have thoughts on a trade for Barrett Hayton from Utah??...

According to the ask? Was looking for more experience

 

[Habssince89]

I touted Hayton to go to Habs in the KK draft. Saw him a ton in junior and liked him.

Expected more by this point but playing in ‘Zona couldn’t have been good.

He seems to be doing better in Utah and would be an OK 2C who I think would thrive in Habs’ hockey environs.

As someone posted in another thread, Sam Bennett (!!!) but Hayton wouldn’t cost as much/seems realistic.

Not a bad target. Good stopgap that's young. He won't get in the way of players like Hage, but those players will also have a decent veteran to complete with for a roster spot.

 

[Whalers Fan]

So our problem is managment drafting bad during a rebuild? Yikes, it hurts.

Drafting hasn't been bad under Hugo, IMO. Hutson, Reinbacher, Demidov, Fowler, Hage all look to be excellent picks. The jury is still out on whether Slaf was the best choice as a #1OA pick, but big guys take longer to develop.

No team hits on 100% of their draft picks, but around here anything less than that is considered a disaster by some posters.

 

[Egresch]

Drafting hasn't been bad under Hugo, IMO. Hutson, Reinbacher, Demidov, Fowler, Hage all look to be excellent picks. The jury is still out on whether Slaf was the best choice as a #1OA pick, but big guys take longer to develop.

No team hits on 100% of their draft picks, but around here anything less than that is considered a disaster by some posters.

Drafting, contract management and development are strengths of this new regime.
Inexperienced coaching, Identifying the right player and player evaluation need some improvement for sure (Dach, Newhook, Barron, Kovacevic, ...)

 

[vokiel]

So is Marner

He's not a center, though we'll need replace Laine next season.

 

[Benstheman]

Why would he sign for only four years if it amounts to what he would get in 5 years elsewhere?

This will be his last big contract and he can sign for 7 guaranteed years elsewhere.

He will be 32, after a 4 year contract. He can still sign another contract.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

He will be 32, after a 4 year contract. He can still sign another contract.

It depends his risk aversion. He might be washed up by then from all the mileage on his body. Hypothetically scenario:
7 years at 8M = 56M
4 years at 9M + 4 years at 6M = 60M

Is the 4M more truly worth it? He could need to LTIR for all we know

 

[Benstheman]

It depends his risk aversion. He might be washed up by then from all the mileage on his body. Hypothetically scenario:
7 years at 8M = 56M
4 years at 9M + 4 years at 6M = 60M

Is the 4M more truly worth it? He could need to LTIR for all we know

at 8M$ for 7 years, off course not. The risk is too big.

But if he can only get 7M$ for 7 years and is disappointed with the long terms offers, it would be worth it to take a bigger salary for the short term.

What I like about the situation is Hughes will have a good inside track at Bennett's situation and expectations, him being a Quartexx client. He then can make an educated offer based on the situation.

The only thing I don't want is overpaying him to come here on a 7 years contract. Best case would be 3 or 4 years.

 

[Colezuki]

I don’t think getting guys like Beniers or Johnston are realistic tbh. I feel like they’ll go for someone older like an O’Reilly or Schenn, hopefully I’m wrong.

I dont know if that's a bad thing though, because they'll be stop gaps until Hage is ready imo

 

[DAChampion]

Drafting, contract management and development are strengths of this new regime.
Inexperienced coaching, Identifying the right player and player evaluation need some improvement for sure (Dach, Newhook, Barron, Kovacevic, ...)

Just say "no" to retroactive clairvoyance.

Dach was an excellent acquisition.

It didn't work out due to injuries and bad luck. Sometimes that happens.

 

[Apfel Struble]

What about trading for Shane Wright? Now THAT would be hilarious

 

[Victoire HuGo]

What about trading for Shane Wright? Now THAT would be hilarious

That ship has sailed. SEA has no reason to trade him now

 

[Apfel Struble]

That ship has sailed. SEA has no reason to trade him now

I know, I know. It was more in jest than anything else

 

[Egresch]

Just say "no" to retroactive clairvoyance.

Dach was an excellent acquisition.

It didn't work out due to injuries and bad luck. Sometimes that happens.

I am not questioning injuries at all and I think he can still be valuable 3W, but we paid trade value for top6 C. Specifically, I am dissapointed by his inability to improve aspects of his game that would make him a better center.
Faceoff- how come he could not work on his blatant weakness. You can be injured and still work on your faceoffs.
Defensive play- they said he spent last year in coaching meetings and video room, but his defense was pathetic whole year.