Another C as in 2 Cs in the 1st round. They also do have Beck, Kapanen, Koivu and Hage.
They should really just go for whoever they think is best. Drafting Cs now doesn't do anything to fix issues in a relevant timeframe.
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Another C as in 2 Cs in the 1st round. They also do have Beck, Kapanen, Koivu and Hage.
They should really just go for whoever they think is best. Drafting Cs now doesn't do anything to fix issues in a relevant timeframe.
I think it's pretty much open from 12 to 16. Always debatable, but I don't think there's a clear but better one, so I would go with the centers.
General Fanager
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Who cares.....The Laughs screwed themselves when it comes to Marner so its funny to watch main boards melt down blaming him when its not his fault in the least.
HuGort
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They really need to add offensive center this summer. Our 2nd line has killed us. Dach definitely not the answer. UFAs rarely sign here. Habs need to punt one of their first ahead a couple of years. for second line center with control.
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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You only look at Kadri if the pending UFAs all re-sign, or sign somewhere else.
Pay a little more, but keep the assets for that hole to be plugged.
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Sens took Cozens and we'll see if they make the playoffs. Yesterday Cozens had one assist on the 4-3 victory vs Rangers. To see Cozens traded to a western team wouldn't bother me but playing for Ottawa is straight on our face.
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dream scenario for me for this summer would be to get
Marner as an UFA and trade for Horvat for a 1st picks Mailloux another prospect and perhaps an extra 2nd pick and 3rd.
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Marner-Horvat-Demi
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2 PP line with 4 forwards with Hutson and Mardeson
Marner as an UFA and trade for Horvat for a 1st picks Mailloux another prospect and perhaps an extra 2nd pick and 3rd.
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Marner-Horvat-Demi
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2 PP line with 4 forwards with Hutson and Mardeson
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Victoire HuGo
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Two options:
I wonder if Tavares would ever sign here.
I wonder if VGK would trade Karlsson.
Beside that meh for 31 years old+ centers as stop gaps
I wonder if Tavares would ever sign here.
I wonder if VGK would trade Karlsson.
Beside that meh for 31 years old+ centers as stop gaps
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It's going to be very interesting how Hugo will handle the 2C situation.
The options on the market seem to be rather limited, so I'm wondering if they opt for a placeholder middle 6 type until something better comes up. Kind of what Jets have in Namestnikov.
On the other hand, the management is on record saying that this upcoming offseason is going to be very important, so it's not unreasonable to expect that they're going to pull every lever to pry that top 6 center. I wonder if we might see a player/prospect moved that will shock us.
The options on the market seem to be rather limited, so I'm wondering if they opt for a placeholder middle 6 type until something better comes up. Kind of what Jets have in Namestnikov.
On the other hand, the management is on record saying that this upcoming offseason is going to be very important, so it's not unreasonable to expect that they're going to pull every lever to pry that top 6 center. I wonder if we might see a player/prospect moved that will shock us.
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Cozens isn’t that magical stud player that we missed because we withhold a 3rd round pick. Buffalo probably wanted a player in return (between Dach and Norris, both are injury prone, but one is solid constantly when healthy) and our desire for entertainment (thirsty for action). I think that (to be a contender with suzuki at C) we need a better C at 2 on the long run.
Realistic targets for stopgaps (at least) at 2C, to me are :
UFA : Granlund, Bennett
Signed : Pageau, Zacha, Pettersson (depending on what Alvin wants for him), Horvat / Barzal (but doubtful since NYI will likely want to retool rather than rebuild)
I don't see Marner as an option, it seems quite sure he'll stay in TOR.
At D, I think MTL needs a RD and trade Matheson :
Hutson - XX
Guhle - Carrier
Xhekaj - Reinbacher
Savard
Archijerej
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So, we sign Marner and trade Demidov for a center? 
In all seriousness, though, I think Hugo is perfectly capable to pull off something like that.
In all seriousness, though, I think Hugo is perfectly capable to pull off something like that.
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The good top 6 Cs are almost never disponible. Generally, they have a NMC or NTC and teams that trade them most of the time ask for a decent replacement in the deal. Which Habs don't have at this moment.
They become disponible only when a team clearly commits to a rebuild and decide to blow it up, which is also not happening very often. When it's happening, since it is rare, there is an auction taking place and you clearly have to overpay, and that is if the player accepts to be trade in Mtl.
I think the best option for Habs this summer, is to overpay an UFA for 3-4 years and go from there. You get yourself a known commodity and you pay nothing in assets. We easily have the cap space for those 3-4 years of overpaying, while we wait for Hage and whichever center we draft this summer.
Overpay for 3 years of :
Granlund : 7M$
Duchene : 8M$
Bennett : 9-10 M$ (I would even go 4 years with Bennett)
You should be able to get 1 of them with those overpays. At this point, I think we have to do this to get a legit top 6 center as soon as next season and keep our trading assets to get that top 4 RHD that will compliment Reinbacher and Carrier.
He was pretty mediocre last night.
Ive been warm to that idea as well, but 4 more years at 7M is woof. Could very quickly end up a worse anchor than Dvorak.
Would need to be at very low asset cost and require retention or Gally going the other way to be worth kicking tires on imo
Victoire HuGo
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I'd rather throw 9M at Tavares for 3 years than 9M at Bennett for 7 years
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You're correct in your argument with @The Great Weal , Robert Thomas, if traded, won't receive the best offer of any forward in to he cap era.
Taylor Hall, who went on to win a Hart, was traded for Adam Larsson. Edmonton wanted more, but that was the best offer available.
Alex DeBrincat, young and one of the best scorers in the league, was traded for a single 7th overall pick, and then traded for forward Dominik Kubalik, defenseman prospect Donovan Sebrango, a conditional first-round pick in and a fourth-round pick.
Phil Kessel was traded for two 1sts (expected to be in the teens) and then later, went on to win a Conn Smythe, traded for Nick Spaling, Scott Harrington, Kasperi Kapanen, a first-round pick and a third round pick.
Pierre-Luc Dubois was traded to Washington for a goalie, Darcy Kuemper.
Patrick Laine was traded for free because the other team took on the cap hit.
Robert Thomas also comes with a long term 8.125 million dollar contract.
A reasonable offer for him is approximately 1st rounder, 3rd rounder, Kirby Dach, Logan Mailloux, assuming zero salary retention. If we go by NHL-wide history, that is likely to be the best offer. This also assumes St Louis actually wants to rebuild, and it depends on where the Habs draft picks ends up.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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Well yeah. If you give Bennett 9 mill a year you should be fired.
Victoire HuGo
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Most of these were wingers and some had questions on character on top of that though
DAChampion
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I'm not convinced that Thomas is vastly better to Dubois, Hall, or Kessel were when they were traded.
Also,
Tyler Seguin was traded to Dallas, with Peverley and Button, for forward Loui Eriksson and prospects Joe Morrow, Reilly Smith, and Matt Fraser.
Victoire HuGo
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It's a fair point but Thomas is more proven and cost control I think Seguin hadn't signed his deal yet.
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No one is paying Bennett 9M. What would be is comparable to earn 9M$? 7M$ would be the higher I could see them go.
