I would do it too. But it’s hard to believe Buffalo would do it. Cozens seems to get a lot of hate here but at least he’s heatlhy and had one real good season. Dach value right now is at a all time low. Just keep him and pray his carreer bounce back.
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Was being sarcastic but go back in the rumor thread and you would see many stating that laine can’t be had cheap.if i have time tomorrow will pull a couple for comedy purposes
( then again not as some might feel I am singling them out) while I recognize we all , myself especially make statements that make us look silly ….
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He was on the Canucks in the benning era where the sedins were nearing the end.
The Islanders are a team that is neither here or there and refuses to rebuild.
In neither case would I pin the misfortunes on horvat.
Regardless, I doubt the Islanders are looking to deal him.
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How much is Ristolainen Worth? Considering he make 5.1M$ for another season, might be a cheaper option for us since we could take the full cap hit.
The guy is big he hit hard, block shots, was a high pick he's still in is prime good skater with some skills and if he doesn't have to play 20min per night or playing with a better partner he might even be more effective, could be a upgrad on Savard or just a replacement next year...
Other player I look into would be Jordan Greenway he would definately be a upgrade on Pezzetta and could give us Flexibility if someone get hurt
The guy is big he hit hard, block shots, was a high pick he's still in is prime good skater with some skills and if he doesn't have to play 20min per night or playing with a better partner he might even be more effective, could be a upgrad on Savard or just a replacement next year...
Other player I look into would be Jordan Greenway he would definately be a upgrade on Pezzetta and could give us Flexibility if someone get hurt
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I agree it definately isn't Horvat fault but even if he is a great player, that isn't a contract I would touch with a 10 foot pole, 30yo sign for 6more seasons at 8.5M$ total messes our structure and flexibility...
I do no see a trade that is worth it unless Habs are selling again in 2026 or prospects push very hard.
From what I know, Laine has no issues regarding Montreal as of now.
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UFAs want more than 2 or 3 years, the ones that have to take this are probably not very good.
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I would think that at this stage, Mailloux has limited market value. The time to trade him was at the end of last year. Any competent hockey person can readily see that Mailloux ‘s development has plateaued at a level of his being at best a fringe NHLer.
As in most things, it’s all about timing and, regrettably in Mailloux’s case, the proverbial ship has sailed.
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Mister expert here with the crystal ball. Hage is having a terrific D+1 season, just as good as Caufield had at the same age. You talk of overrating prospects, while you do the exact opposite.
You can keep dreaming about miracle trades, but fact is Hughes has been quite outspoken about building for the long term, even this year he repeated it, hence it's very unlikely he'll trade a strong prospect like Hage. Hughes has plenty to work with to make trades outside of his best prospects like Demi, Hage, Reinbacher and Fowler.
Luckily, Hughes is not some armchair GM frotting at the mouth at the idea of selling the farm to get a 2C. Furthermore, a rebuilding team should trade prime assets when they're about to become a contender, not to bridge the gap to become a playoff team. Your way of doing things is how we end-up in the middle of the road, instead of eventually becoming contenders.
A year ago, you would probably have traded Hutson for Ghost.
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Wouldn't say Hage is untouchable but if he was the main piece for a real top 6 center whos around 22-26 and gets 55+ points a season, you pull the trigger.
The only untouchable prospect or picks we have is Demidov. The rest can be and should be traded for a core piece was available. Waiting is good but we could wait 2-3 years to even see Hage in the NHL and perhaps in a top 6 role
The only untouchable prospect or picks we have is Demidov. The rest can be and should be traded for a core piece was available. Waiting is good but we could wait 2-3 years to even see Hage in the NHL and perhaps in a top 6 role
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You think he likes playing 10 to 13 minutes a night?
But yes, I don't think Laine has gotten his trade value back up yet.
I'm bringing up Laine, because if we want to get that quality 2c, we need quality trade chips
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Habs will never be able to build a pipeline of upside C prospects by making them so easily available as some in here are advocating. Maybe allow Hughes more credit for being able to get the job done in ways that involve alternate options.
You misunderstood me, my bad. Hage have a real shot at being a productive top 6 forward, but many scouts / experts (I'm not) seems to think he may end up a winger, no a C.
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Having prospects is good but starting next season with Dach Evans and Beck as our 2-3-4 center is not acceptable. We just flushed a year of Dach . We don't need 35year olds to patch. This team needs present. You can't enter next season with just Demidov added. It sends a terrible message to the core . We need to stabilize at least the top4 in def or a 2nd center this off-season . If Hage is the price for a future player we will have 5-10 years who's a big contributor you do it. If not you keep him and wait.
We flushed Romanov for nothing.
We traded Sergachev for a pseudo center
We refused a trade base with Poehling for RoR.
Do we really want to ice this for the first game next season ?
Caufield-Suzuki-Slaf
Laine-Dach-Demidov
Newhook-Evans-Anderson
Gallagher-Beck--???
That's brutal. Hutson Caufield and Suzuki can't do everything
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That’s a highly extreme outcome that isn’t likely to materialize for the simple reason that Hughes has accumulated such a wide assortment and number of assets that Hage or any other center the Habs end up drafting, don’t have to be tendered.
An organization with a decades-long known inability to build quality centre depth does not have the luxury of sacrificing it.
Dach is not a centre so they didn’t lose one in him, they lost a winger who has now become a liability given two major operations to the same knee. I would argue that outcomes like Dach is exactly why you prioritize quality centre depth in your pipeline or risk more years seeking it out.
They still need to find a willing dance partner with an asset worthy of trading Hage + whatever other assets are required.
It’s not an easy task finding a young top-6 C that a team wants to move on from. Our best case scenario is that the Isles wake up and decide they want to rebuild and Horvat is on the table. He’s a bit older, but he should be serviceable for the next 5-6 seasons which should line up with our window. I don’t see a situation where guys like Byfield or Lundell or anyone of their ilk are made available for say Hage + 1st.
To find a good young C you don't needs a 1st and Hage. All you need is Fleischmann and Weise.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Pipeline is good but Hage should not be impossible to trade for an important player. If our center depth consist of 1 guy , then it's not deep at all
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The great thing about Evans' deal is that it sets up the market for our 4th line/defensive forwards. Similar to Suzuki for our top 6 (yes i know that Laine makes more but at his current play he doesn't deserve more than Nick). I would keep Armia but at a considerable discount. He should not be making more than Evans. I would not keep Dvo, that guy can GTFO. So realistically we need a 2nd and 3rd line center.
How i see our lineup for next year:
Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine - X (acquired via trade) - Demidov
Gallagher/heineman - X (acquired internally) - Anderson/newhook
Gallagher/heineman - Evans - Armia (only if he signs for cheap)
If heineman comes out strong next year, we need to promote him to the 3rd line. He clearly has that offensive instinct and the habs would be doing a disservice to themselves to not exploit that. Also, we need to gradually disengage from Gally. The great thing about him is that he gives his all in every shift, so giving him a less offensive assignment may be more suited to his current play and ability.
Other than Demidov, i think everything should be on the table to acquire that elusive 2C, especially the stockpile of picks the habs have.
How i see our lineup for next year:
Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine - X (acquired via trade) - Demidov
Gallagher/heineman - X (acquired internally) - Anderson/newhook
Gallagher/heineman - Evans - Armia (only if he signs for cheap)
If heineman comes out strong next year, we need to promote him to the 3rd line. He clearly has that offensive instinct and the habs would be doing a disservice to themselves to not exploit that. Also, we need to gradually disengage from Gally. The great thing about him is that he gives his all in every shift, so giving him a less offensive assignment may be more suited to his current play and ability.
Other than Demidov, i think everything should be on the table to acquire that elusive 2C, especially the stockpile of picks the habs have.
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I agree but a real top 6 center between 22 and 26 yo aren't disponible. Like never. Unless there are reclamation projects or have other issues, just like Dach, Cozens, Zegras, etc. etc.
So that pretty much means Hage is untouchable.
