HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[sampollock]

I think this thread should be renamed
"Move the Needle KH"

AS per Deebs

 

[Scriptor]

I mean if Demidov can come in and.score 55-60 pts it'd go a long way. Defense will need to improve after that.

If the Habs are in the farkit zone at or near next year's trade deadline, they should try Demidov at C at that point.

If we don't add a 2C at this year's trade deadline, they should try Slafkovsky at C. He's more of a passer than a shooter anyhow, and has already made a lot of surprising plays that demonstrate that he sees the play that is developing quite well.

 

[Weltschmerz]

time is now

is it really? you want to pay deadline prices?

 

[Rapala]

From everyone's favorite writer...

Says pretty much what Lebrun and Seravalli have been saying last week.
Adds Matheson as a player drawing interest. Also it says that Armia has much more value than people might think.

Mentions Cozens, Zegras and Dobson as potential targets. But also said on twitter that Dobson is only available for a top line player like Pettersson, which makes sense.

I've also heard Seravalli say the Habs are gonna be agressive. He mentionned the names Cozens and Pettersson friday.

FWIW.

I've already mentioned I'd try to keep Armia on a short term low AAV deal. For me he's the main reason our PK has been so much better.

GM's will be trying to get Armia cheaply and many will look at him as a far better rental than Jake Evans for a long post season run. I know I would.

 

[sampollock]

is it really? you want to pay deadline prices?

time is now
Could be now, draft or summer.
but before next fall

 

[Deebs]

They should try Demidov at C at that point.

If we don't add a 2C at this year's trade deadline, they should try Slafkovsky at C.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

That's not entirely true, as ROR, Reinhart, Eichel & Rodrigues all played well for Buffalo. They were all top line players for them, except for Rodrigues, and added high end depth to already good teams.

Cozens is not playing well for them & is not a top line player. He's middle 6.

I wasn't affirming the prevailing narrative, bur, rather, the post merely noted it and speculated on its influence on the fandom's desire to acquire Cozens.

 

[sampollock]

slaf has a tough enough time playing wing.
Centre would kill the kid

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

At first it might look like a step backward, but Buffalo need to resign Peterka, McLeod and Byram this summer and they don't have a lot of space. So, how you want them to sign Marner or Rantanen? And let's bet honest, none of these 2 are going to Buffalo.

But, they have a good center line with Thompson, McLeod and Kulich/Helenius incoming. Do they really need Cozens? And Cozens has his lowest P/60 since his rookie year, he clearly needs a trade to fulfil his potential.

They'll never get Marner or Rantanen, but they could go for Tavares, Bennett or Granlund with Cozens now out, and that would be an instant improvement. You add CGY 1st and MTL 2nd, they could pick around 12th + they'll already probably pick top 5 and voila, you're a much better club over one summer.

You fixated on one part, the smallest part.

Buffalo likely isnt signing any of those players, unless Tavares wants to be close.

Buffalo isn't trading Cozens and hoping they can replace him on the UFA market, hence they won't deal him unless they need to clear space.

Buffalo is a really undesirable spot just because they have been out of the playoffs for so long.

Buffalo has 33 mill in space. Peterka, Byram and McLeod take maybe 20. Then there's Quinn who will get a bridge deal if not dealt.

The sabres can easily keep their players and then add it very free agency and not have to sell Cozens for futures.

If they dump anyone for fututes it might be Samuelsson. That guy is basic.

I hope the teams calling for MM are immediately sent a video highlight presentation along with a box of chocolate and rare wine.

Guy has as many sources as he has hair on his head.

 

[vokiel]

Well another former agent that tried reclaimation project is Bill Zito (Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Bennett, Forsling).

Obviously HuGo is far from having the same (or any) success for those kind of trades but it’s not like it’s a bad idea. If you want to improve your team you have to take (calculated) risks otherwise it’s hard to improve faster then the other teams.

Personally what irks me is that they publicly state “need grit in playoffs, C line is key” and it’s our main weaknesses

It seems the only numbers Hughes is able to calculate are the salaries he negotiates, not the projects he took on. He started with pretty difficult gambles.

 

[Weltschmerz]

You fixated on one part, the smallest part.

Buffalo likely isnt signing any of those players, unless Tavares wants to be close.

Buffalo isn't trading Cozens and hoping they can replace him on the UFA market, hence they won't deal him unless they need to clear space.

Buffalo is a really undesirable spot just because they have been out of the playoffs for so long.

Buffalo has 33 mill in space. Peterka, Byram and McLeod take maybe 20. Then there's Quinn who will get a bridge deal if not dealt.

The sabres can easily keep their players and then add it very free agency and not have to sell Cozens for futures.

If they dump anyone for fututes it might be Samuelsson. That guy is basic.

Guy has as many sources as he has hair on his head.

They probably want to keep Zucker as well, maybe even Greenway.

 

[ReHabs]

Guy has as many sources as he has hair on his head.

Remember he used to call himself The Hockey Expert

 

[Weltschmerz]

Remember he used to call himself The Hockey Expert

Those articles on rg are hard to read, wonder if he is just filling in the names and let the rest do the AI.

 

[sampollock]

Habs need to drop at last 5/6 spots in the overall standings
make the draft our playoffs

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I get that but it doesn't make him their 1st line center unless you believe that if Dach play with Caufield next game he's now MTL first line center?

He plays center on the 1st line

I would agree that Point is the 1C though

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

slaf has a tough enough time playing wing.
Centre would kill the kid

Yeah, hopefully he doesn't turn into Daigle or Drouin. That extension can also be a killer.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Those articles on rg are hard to read, wonder if he is just filling in the names and let the rest do the AI.

Not sure AI would make as many typos as he does...

 

[Vachon23]

Devils GM at the game

 

[Dichow Stopper]

Devils GM at the game

Nemec

 

[Whalers Fan]

My three way trade

MTL gives : Mike Matheson, Logan Mailloux, CGY 2025 1st, MTL 2026 2nd
MTL gets : Noah Dobson

NYI gives : Noah Dobson
NYI gets : Mike Matheson, Dylan Cozens

BUF gives : Dylan Cozens
BUF gets : Logan Mailloux, CGY 2025 1st, MTL 2026 2nd

So Buffalo gets more for Cozens than NYI get for Dobson? I don't think so.

 

[sampollock]

Devils GM at the game

Means nothing

 

[WinterLion]

Is there a trade freeze during this break?

 

[CaptainKirk]

Is there a trade freeze during this break?

Nope.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Devils GM at the game

Didn't Know Jimmy Bonneau was a scout

 

[sampollock]

Team needs a kick in the pants