HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[HuGort]

I'd trade Dach. He's just not getting the center position at all. He's so so bad defensively. I'd give him the rest of the year & trade him at the draft.

Philadelphia is desperate for centers, so maybe we can use him for their 1st round pick this year if it's top 10, which it should be.

Resign Evans, and come back next year with Suzuki, Kapanen, Beck & Evans. We need a stop gap centre until Hage is ready. I'm not sure Kapanen & Beck are top 6 C.

It would be really, really helpful if we could draft Misa as I think he can step into the #2C spot right away.

Hagens should go back to college for another year like Cooley, but imo, he's only a year away.

That's a lot of youth at center. Sign a skilled veteran with experience to blend with them. A Duchene or Giroux type.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

That's a lot of youth at center. Sign a skilled veteran with experience to blend with them. A Duchene or Giroux type.

Pretty useless to sign those guys. We need a long term top 6 center who can feed laine and Demidov. Can't wait for Hage if he will get there. We have picks and prospects enough to make that kind of trade. Even if we have to overpay . This team needs help Suzuki can't be the only center to eo everything offensively. He's getting pinned down by all shutdown lines because teams knows we have nothing else.

 

[Habs Halifax]

...I'd say Mailloux is more of our (hopeful) Dobson-type...Reinbacher, if he's as good as he was made out to be, will probably be our defensive guy paired with Hutson...unfortunately, that may be years away...

Yeah, the timing has me ponding about it. Same with Barron... I think he will become a top 4D but how long will it take? Hopefully Mailloux is ahead of that curve. The skating/size/shot and offensive vision is there.

Who was better in the AHL defensively (D zone ability)? Barron or Mailloux? I have not watched many Laval games.

 

[Habs Halifax]

yeah I dont think Dobson is exactly what is needed here, and the huge cost to acquire will make it difficult to swallow the not so perfect fit. I think Nemec would be the best bet...and after that, there is like 0 youngish steady RD that could be available, those are very very rare!

So I looked up around the league which team has a surplus of center, and one of them that would be a great fit is Anaheim. They have Carlsson-Strome-Gauthier-Zegras-Mctavish-Lunderstrom that could all play center. the Zegras topic has been beaten to death but what about Mctavish? Id be ok paying more for Mctavish!

Problem is, they kinda need RDs as well.. and I dont think Dach + Mailloux would do it, id throw one of our 1st as well but I still dont think they would bite

I think we all like Dobson but I keep going back to our D core missing defensive studs (with me, it comes down to Reinbacher or Dobson). Nice to have both but we really do need more defensive studs and we don't have a lot of proven guys defensively yet. That guy is only Guhle right now. Hopefully Xhekaj can improve more... it's been a better year for him this year vs last so I do have faith he develops more and more and is mature come 25+. I like his fighting ability but I prefer and value his physical presence and steady D play more. He has to continue to focus and be hungry to improve in that area.

Dobson is also going to ask for a contract we might not like.

One option which appears not attractive right now is Xhekaj moving to RD to play with Hutson.... When Xhekaj is fully mature. Something to consider later (maybe)

Nemec is very well rounded (I believe anyways). Devils probably are holding onto his #2 OA value so cost may be too high. Lets see how the Devils manage their RD side. I know they want to keep Kova but they might have a Evans situation on their hands... both players looking for their bag of money after being on value contracts at the first half of their career. No doubt in my mind that their agents are advising them to use the UFA card with a much higher cap.

I'm a big fan of McTavish but I just don't see the Ducks trading their physical center. They probably ask for Slaf or have him on the untouchable list.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Pretty useless to sign those guys. We need a long term top 6 center who can feed laine and Demidov. Can't wait for Hage if he will get there. We have picks and prospects enough to make that kind of trade. Even if we have to overpay . This team needs help Suzuki can't be the only center to eo everything offensively. He's getting pinned down by all shutdown lines because teams knows we have nothing else.

Duchene for 2 years might not be a bad play though. That's basically Hage's development time.

Giroux? NO. His skating is not good enough to play center. Duchene can still skate

 

[Rapala]

Pretty useless to sign those guys. We need a long term top 6 center who can feed laine and Demidov. Can't wait for Hage if he will get there. We have picks and prospects enough to make that kind of trade. Even if we have to overpay . This team needs help Suzuki can't be the only center to eo everything offensively. He's getting pinned down by all shutdown lines because teams knows we have nothing else.

Brian Wilde talking on Global this morning is talking about our Management now looking at an expedited rebuild. That being said there aren't too many ways to do that without addressing the 2C need. What it doesn't tell us is which assets are expendable. I have my own ideas but they probably don't correspond with many on this board.

 

[eklund the clown]

Brian Wilde talking on Global this morning is talking about our Management now looking at an expedited rebuild. That being said there aren't too many ways to do that without addressing the 2C need. What it doesn't tell us is which assets are expendable. I have my own ideas but they probably don't correspond with many on this board.

Don't be shy let us know what you think

 

[Rapala]

Don't be shy let us know what you think

LOL like I'm ever shy...
I would move out all moveable assets but if i was to keep one player I'd probably keep Armia for the PK as a cheaper short term option. I believe the PK has always responded when Armia plays well on it. The numbers bear that out our PK was horrendous coming out of Covid ll and only improved last season when Armia found his game again. Note our PK was very good in the SCF run with Armia playing a huge part while Evans was out for almost 3/4's of it. I have never believed Evans role was one that would be hard to replace and my posts have remained consistent to that effect.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Not sure why people are so excited to go after Cozens, he makes 7mill and is on pace for 38 points. Oh and is also -17 for the +/- idiots out there.

 

[Rapala]

Not sure why people are so excited to go after Cozens, he makes 7mill and is on pace for 38 points. Oh and is also -17 for the +/- idiots out there.

Start a petition to have +/- removed from all statistical reports so the idiots don't get confused about what it actually means...

 

[Deebs]

Not sure why people are so excited to go after Cozens, he makes 7mill and is on pace for 38 points. Oh and is also -17 for the +/- idiots out there.

I think some of the hype comes from the recent history of some Sabre players leaving and excelling elsewhere. The Sabres have been irrelevant and in purgatory for so long, I think the whole franchise from the top down eats players alive. Is he worth going after, if the price is right possibly but as you say, he does make $7M so caution needs to be exercised.

 

[eklund the clown]

Not sure why people are so excited to go after Cozens, he makes 7mill and is on pace for 38 points. Oh and is also -17 for the +/- idiots out there.

Well whatever the asking price is it sure has not been met or he would have been traded by now.If he had 1/2 the contract sure take a chance on him.Then again we are talking about the Sabres.They seem to have all the talent in the world for years but players don't seem to thrive there.

 

[vokiel]

Pretty useless to sign those guys. We need a long term top 6 center who can feed laine and Demidov. Can't wait for Hage if he will get there. We have picks and prospects enough to make that kind of trade. Even if we have to overpay . This team needs help Suzuki can't be the only center to eo everything offensively. He's getting pinned down by all shutdown lines because teams knows we have nothing else.

Laine will not be here long term. It was never the plan to begin. They acquired him to get more picks just like Monahan.

 

[Deebs]

Laine will not be here long term. It was never the plan to begin. They acquired him to get more picks just like Monahan.

Not sure it wasn't the plan if Laine regained his old form and fit in with the club. It was a good trade to make on our behalf because there was no real risk to what the team is trying to build.

 

[eklund the clown]

Who knows what Hugo are thinking/planning ?They say they are going to stay the course.I think it's time to kick things into gear a bit .Let's take a closer look at this lineup .tradeable players to get that #1 or 2 centre . Suzuki and Caufield i would not move.Slaf well thats another story.He doesn't seem to be progressing and yes i know he's young .Second line.Any of Laine,Dach and Newhook can be traded.Bottom 6 if i could i would sign Evans if the price is right.Armia looks good because his contract is up.Where's he been before this year?Gally buy him out because no team will take him.Anderson doesn't bring much.On Defense Matheson and Savard have to go .Love Guhle but he's not much good injured half the time.Did i miss anyone?