Kosseca
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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II
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SannywithoutCompy
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Just seems like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Our right side after that would be:
Mailloux
Konyushkov
...Sobolev? Kostenko?
We need more of what Reinbacher brings unfortunately, not less. I'd go after Nemec before I'd go after Pettersson
LaP
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Kind of hope it's a 1st round pick. Having three 1st round pick next draft would put us in a very good position to be agressive right when we want to start to be agressive.
I dont think the Devils are in go all in mode but I think they have reached the point where they want to be in the post season, and it looks like they are buyers. They need a 3C and Evans can fit that. They also apparently want some secondary scoring and while Anderson would not be their 1st or maybe even 2nd choice, he could help them and we could retain. They dont have a 1st in 2025 and we could trade them the Calgary 1st, though I dont think picks is what they are looking for. Add in Mailloux who is big and talented offensively though shaky on D. So our offer is essentially 3 mid- late firsts ( Calgary's and the cost for Evans and Mailloux 31st overall ) and Anderson.
Nemec is not a rehabilitation project he just hasnt been able to be one of the 6 best. And they may want one very good quality piece back instead of a bag of lower quality assets. However, Nemec is getting annoyed and may be at the point of requesting a trade which will likely create an issue, though Nemec really has no leverage as he is signed until 2026. So they really have no pressure to trade him.
Would I take that package for Nemec ? No, but Im not a GM with some pressure to get into the post season, and the package isnt some awful low ball offer. You never know.
And maybe we dont want Nemec for that price and prefer to go for a veteran D who can really help over the next 4-5 years.
Pompeius Magnus
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FWIW, Mailloux is probably more interesting from Vancouver's point of view, he's ready to play some minutes in the NHL right now. He's the one I'd be targeting .
Pompeius Magnus
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If Suzuki is the only way to make it happen, then it's an obvious no, there would be no point for us.
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I don't see why they move him without at least a C with good potential coming back. If Dach was on track for 60 points this year, given his age I could see them open to getting him and another good piece, but Dach is just starting to hit his stride. One rumour is Dylan Cozens and Bowen Byram, and that sounds like a decent package.
Habs Halifax
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Anderson / Dvorak / Gallagher is one of the better 5/5 lines in the NHL in terms of goals scored/60. Dvorak doesn't put up much offense but he does a lot of boring stuff out there that has value. Not a bad guy to have if it's another year on a value contract. Heck, even if he was one of the 13th or 14th forwards. Better to have someone like this as an extra forward vs one of our youth that don't play games.
So you are going to complain if he comes back on a $1M contract and we either use him with Anderson and Gallagher again or he is the 13th or 14th forward? Come on man. The Anderson / Dvorak / Gallagher line is underrated. Overpaid yes but underrated to some degree.
The Gr8 Dane
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Evans ++ for Nemec
Dvorak for 2027 2nd rd pick
Armia for 2027 2nd rd pick
Savard - 2026 5th rd pick.
Kosseca
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I have no issue with Anderson play and contract. Gally's contract isn't a problem too, but he's getting too slow and I would use him as a 13th forward, Dvorak, I dont care about the contract... I care about his play and beside faceoff, he's been bad. He's lucky to play with two guys that have "no-quit" in their game this year, because otherwise.... he would be much more exposed. I would go even further and say that you put a decent C between Anderson and Gally and you could have better results.
MTL lacks quality depth right now. If the 1st line isn't scoring, odds are that the team wont generate much offense. At 1M... I'm asking why not go for an upgrade or a young guy???
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Habs Halifax
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Think about who the 13th and 14th forwards are next year? Do you really think it's a good idea to have one of our kids sitting and watching games? Dvorak is a decent piece to have for depth. Yeah, I know how that looks but I can see this happening.
Habs Halifax
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I'm down for the Evans++ for Nemec! I think the Devils seriously consider this if we offer the Habs 1st on top. Habs probably prefer to offer the Flames 1st instead because we would have to have our pick with lottery protection.
Dvorak is probably a 3rd or 4th round return.
Armia can get a 2nd and prospect. He will get a lot of interest if we trade him.
Savard could be a 2nd but not sure. He really seems to have run out of gas. Might be a 3rd
Kobe Armstrong
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sampollock
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what will the habs do with a pile of more picks? lol I know pick
but they have so many now
Hope Of Glory
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Damn 113M$ in two years is bonkers.
Our current big contracts will be nothing.
Demidov might easily be worth 10M+ by the end of his ELC.
Our current big contracts will be nothing.
Demidov might easily be worth 10M+ by the end of his ELC.
Habs Halifax
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Use them for TDL rentals in future seasons. I actually support the Habs to continue their draft power strategy. Look at the contenders today with little to trade to fill holes? Having this surplus will give us loads of options
Crazy numbers and even higher than I expected. Teams like the Knights and Stars are going to have a massive advantage. Two teams in the top 10 in NHL revenue and also no tax states.
It will be interesting to see how teams like the Avs and Canes manage this high cap. They are in the bottom third in NHL revenue but are contenders. It will come down to their owner being OK with not profiting as much as teams ahead of them in revenue.
Habs Halifax
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Hutson will test our cap structure first. If Demidov produces 80-100 pts in his ELC, he's going to surpass that $10M number IMO.
This is insane. Imagine what Suzuki is thinking right now? He's going to be extremely underpaid in the 2nd half of that contract.
Only if Molson decides to sacrifice his own revenue. The sharing doesn't cover profit margins afaik.
Habs Halifax
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Habs will be fine. If you think about the 50/50 revenue split between owners and NHLPA and a $100M cap, that is basically $200M in revenue for the Habs (if we were comparing the Habs only). Habs generated $265M last season and that number will grow. That was on a $83.5M cap.
Habs are in a good spot in terms of revenue generated. That is even after the CAD conversation to USD. Molson will spend max cap or be open to it. I have very little doubt of that. Habs operating income for the 22/23 season was $99M. Molson has spent more money for the Habs already and is still running a profit.
The teams near the bottom in revenue are the ones who will be more due diligent or frugal. Basically, you can approach this the simple way to get a general trend... Take whatever the max cap is and multiple that by 2. Does you team end up ahead of that number in revenue or below?
NHL teams operating income 2023 | Statista
In the 2022/23 season, the National Hockey League franchise Toronto Maple Leafs had the highest operating income in the league.
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