HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[Goldthorpe]

I'm the leading apostle of the Church of Left-Handed Centers. Our core belief is that if the habs ever come to not have at least one left-handed center in their lineup, untold calamities would fall. Real shit.

 

[vokiel]

I'm the leading apostle of the Church of Left-Handed Centers. Our core belief is that if the habs ever come to not have at least one left-handed center in their lineup, untold calamities would fall. Real shit.

Newhook is left-handed.

 

[Goldthorpe]

Newhook is left-handed.

Sure, but we are stretching thin the definition of "center". Angering the gods.

 

[vokiel]

Sure, but we are stretching thin the definition of "center". Angering the gods.

We definitely are hehe. A vet left-handed center would sure be helpful.

 

[Goldthorpe]

Maybe we could ask Evans if he can play as a lefty. Maybe he's ambidextrous and he just never said it because nobody ever asked.

Maybe he doesn't know himself. He could try it for a few games, see if it sticks? Do it for the team?

Hey I'm just suggesting solutions here.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'm the leading apostle of the Church of Left-Handed Centers. Our core belief is that if the habs ever come to not have at least one left-handed center in their lineup, untold calamities would fall. Real shit.

Demidov at 2C with Dach on his wing and Laine on the other

 

[vokiel]

Demidov at 2C with Dach on his wing and Laine on the other

I'd rather convert Slaf to center

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Maybe we could ask Evans if he can play as a lefty. Maybe he's ambidextrous and he just never said it because nobody ever asked.

Maybe he doesn't know himself. He could try it for a few games, see if it sticks? Do it for the team?

Hey I'm just suggesting solutions here.

Being ambidextrous for hockey is hard.

I can switch for goalie, or swinging a club for golf, or a bat in baseball no problem and that's rarely doing anything to work on that. Trying it to shoot is hard. My stick handling takes a a significant drop, as does my shot.

And yes, I'm aware the comment was in jest... i think.

Habs need like a rare player. Like Matthews, someone who is a centre and can shoot.

2nd, Dach and Roy should be enough.....

But seriously, a left handed centre is probably key to acquire.

 

[yianik]

I think Dvo doesn't get us much of a return. A 3rd or 4th round pick for me we might as well keep him to the end of the season.

If we can't sign Evans and he can get us a late 1st then trade him and Newhook can play there the rest of the season. Figure 3C out off season.

Dach has 30 games to show he can be our 2C. If he can't then we have to look for a legit 2C in the off season, we aren't in full rebuild anymore.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'd rather convert Slaf to center

Maybe I would be OK with him taking the faceoff. I'm sure he would be good at that on Dach's line.

 

[Thomas Sowell]

Go get ROR. Maybe he doesn’t accept, who knows. Dach to wing this season.

Next season:
CC - NS - Demi
Laine - Dach - Slaf
Newhook - ROR - Andy
Heineman - Evans - Gally

That’s a deep lineup.

That looks really nice

 

[Habs Halifax]

Go get ROR. Maybe he doesn’t accept, who knows. Dach to wing this season.

Next season:
CC - NS - Demi
Laine - Dach - Slaf
Newhook - ROR - Andy
Heineman - Evans - Gally

That’s a deep lineup.

Not sure what the price would be but ROR does not have any NTC conditions from what I can see. Two more years at $4.5M

 

[yianik]

If Duschene isn't signed by Dallas and hitsvthe market we should look at him. He produces, is fast and wins face offs.

 

[vokiel]

If Duschene isn't signed by Dallas and hitsvthe market we should look at him. He produces, is fast and wins face offs.

Absolutely, close to my #1 target actually, in front of Evans.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Not sure what the price would be but ROR does not have any NTC conditions from what I can see. Two more years at $4.5M

They’ll only trade him if he agrees or requests it.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I don’t see enough here to show Gourde would supplant Evans as the 3C.

I don't agree he is done. You are guilty of looking at points only to evaluate. A 50+ pts guy at 3C and someone to kill penalties? It's doesn't add up. Gourde would be a solid stop gap for this playoffs and two more seasons. Cost to acquire is affordable and cost to extend for 2 years is also less than what Evans will ask for.

Gourde:
* Age 33
* 49 pts with 17 goals ove his last 115 games (0.43 pts/game)
* 6.61 hits/60
* 2.41 blocks/60
* 1.48 giveaways/60
* 2.25 takeaways/60
* 49% corsi with 62.3% Defensive zone starts
* 48.4 Faceoff %

Evans:
* Age 28
* 53 pts with 18 goals ove his last 129 games (0.41 pts/game)
* 4.42 hits/60
* 2.66 blocks/60
* 1.93 giveaways/60
* 0.99 takeaways/60
* 40% corsi with 80.0% Defensive zone starts
* 52.2 Faceoff %

Gourde's takeaways/60 is among the best in the NHL and his faceoffs is not that far off from Evans.

The above was a reply to me saying Gourde is more of a budget Dvo replacement. I see we are now in agreement?

It might be still worth it to get Gourde to replace Dvorak as well.

 

[LesCactus]

ROR is a couple years younger than what I thought he was.

 

[Andrei79]

If Duschene isn't signed by Dallas and hitsvthe market we should look at him. He produces, is fast and wins face offs.

Montreal was his 2nd choice after Nashville. The issue would be the AAV.

 

[Benstheman]

Would go for ROR before Duchene because of AAV. Unless we can sign him for 2 years at about 6M$ per.

 

[vokiel]

Would go for ROR before Duchene because of AAV. Unless we can sign him for 2 years at about 6M$ per.

I'd go for Brock Nelson before both of them. Obviously Crosby, Malkin, but got to keep it real some times eh.

 

[Benstheman]

I'd go for Brock Nelson before both of them. Obviously Crosby, Malkin, but got to keep it real some times eh.

Yeah would be a good target also. I just want to keep the terms at 2 years.

 

[EXPOS123]

Just go all in on Elias Pettersson.

Have people stopped to wonder how massively f****d we'd be if Suzuki goes down? Our center ice depth is atrocious.

Dach and Newhook can't. As much as i like Beck, he'll never be more than a 3C. And Hage is at least 3 years away. I don't even know what to make of Kapenen.,

Other than that we have nothing else

 

[Lockin17]

If we are seller this year i would trade off
Evans + 3rd for a late first
Armia for a 3rd

I would keep Dvorak (our only LHC) and try to sigh him cheap like 3.2mil x 3 years
I Would keep Savard as well sign him 2 more years at around 3 mil

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just go all in on Elias Pettersson.

Have people stopped to wonder how massively f****d we'd be if Suzuki goes down? Our center ice depth is atrocious.

Dach and Newhook can't. As much as i like Beck, he'll never be more than a 3C. And Hage is at least 3 years away. I don't even know what to make of Kapenen.,

Other than that we have nothing else

Pettersson is not available. Will take Demidov+ to even make them consider

ROR is a good contract. 2 more years at $4.5M. Lots of teams knock on this door

Nelson is a pure rental at age 33. Probably looking for a deal that overlaps 35+. Also another center contenders inquire about

Gourde is cheaper to acquire and probably cheaper to get him to stay for 2 years. He’s very solid when you look at his production beyond points and his style fits MSL. Call it the Carrier move at forward

Or we wait. Always new names that pop up

 

[Nevins]

I would only sign a center for 2 years max because Hage is coming soon. Giroux could be interesting. 30 pts in 47 games and very good on faceoffs.Nelson could be a possibility.

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Laine- Giroux- Demidov
Heineman- Dach- Newhook
Gally- - Evans or Kapanen- Anderson


Hutson- Matheson
Guhle-Carrier
Xhekaj- Savard(1 Year)
Struble

Monty
Dobes

Or
Slaf- Suzuki- Caufield
Laine- Dach-Demidov
Heineman-Newhook- Gally
Olivier- Trent Frédéric - Anderson

Hutson-Matheson
Guhle- Carrier
Xhekaj- Savard(1 Year)
Struble

Monty
Dobes