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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

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vokiel said:
You're asking for a Unicorn. If there is one, his name is probably Nick Suzuki eh.
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I mean pavelski in terms of longevity. I just feel we aren't deep enough down the middle. Maybe O'Reilly could work. I wish there was a number 1 centre out there somewhere we could lure here or trade for but I don't see it. I don't think Peterson is realistic for us and it's not that I don't think size is a number 1. He is. But contenders seem to have a couple fantastic centremen. Not sure if dach fits that bill or not.
 
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Thomas Sowell said:
I like both O'Reilly and Duchene but they are 33 and 34.

Maybe they could be a pavelski type player but I dunno. I don't know if they fit our window
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They don't really have to. Laine doesn't really, especially if they don't sign him. Doesn't mean you don't make the trade if it makes sense on some level.

Some guys plant seeds and leave before the crops grow.
 
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Thomas Sowell said:
I mean pavelski in terms of longevity. I just feel we aren't deep enough down the middle. Maybe O'Reilly could work. I wish there was a number 1 centre out there somewhere we could lure here or trade for but I don't see it. I don't think Peterson is realistic for us and it's not that I don't think size is a number 1. He is. But contenders seem to have a couple fantastic centremen. Not sure if dach fits that bill or not.
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Yes, that's why I'm saying the one you are looking for we already have. That's Nick. Realistically, you won't be getting a PPG center at 30 unless he's your franchise #1 center, which is what Nick will be when his deal ends. Usually teams extend them and don't let go of their contracts for futures.

It would have been easier getting PLD or just keeping Monahan eh.
 
O'Reilly will be 34 in February, but may well be a useful 3rd line C to insulate Dach during the final two years of his contract.

It would also enable Beck to go through the teething process in the NHL as the Habs' 4th line C.

Hage and Kapanen would also get the benefit of not being rushed unnecessarily into the NHL.

Bonus, with the addition of ROR, Evans could now be traded for a 1st round pick.
 
Scriptor said:
O'Reilly will be 34 in February, but may well be a useful 3rd line C to insulate Dach during the final two years of his contract.

It would also enable Beck to go through the teething process in the NHL as the Habs' 4th line C.

Hage and Kapanen would also get the benefit of not being rushed unnecessarily into the NHL.

Bonus, with the addition of ROR, Evans could now be traded for a 1st round pick.
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I’d much sooner rather package Dach out for a 2C than acquire and old and aging ROR on his last legs and hope he can endure a 100game season.

I’d prefer to re-acquire Philip Danault if the case is to reinforce the 3rd line and insulate Dach.
 
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Mark Kastelic would be an amazing 4th line centre, but no way in hell Boston is moving him short of a massive overpayment.

If he leaves Columbus, as he's from Ohio, Sean Kuraly would be a solid free agent signing for the 4th line.

If there's a need for a 4th liner.
 
Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Mark Kastelic would be an amazing 4th line centre, but no way in hell Boston is moving him short of a massive overpayment.

If he leaves Columbus, as he's from Ohio, Sean Kuraly would be a solid free agent signing for the 4th line.

If there's a need for a 4th liner.
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We always need some good depth pieces.

But we have some in-house options potentially with Beck, Kapanen, Davidson. and even possibly Tuch soon vying for bottom-6 minutes in the NHL. There's also a guy like Florian Xhekaj having everything you might possibly want in a bottom-sixer.

Not to mention that if we re-sign Evans he'll be a long-term option, that Heineman looks like a keeper, and that Gallagher and Anderson are probably sure-bets to finish their contrats with us unless we manage to unload them with retention.

All of which to say that I don't really think we should necessarily target certain players for the bottom-6 as we already have some possible long-term pieces in place AND I think we're also not at that point of our rebuild where fine-tuning the roster becomes extremely important.

At this point in time I think we should try and identify some key guys playing in positions of need that would also fit with our core age-wise and then try to acquire them.

Whether that is a Dylan Cozens in Buffalo, or a Joel Farabee in Philadelphia, or anything in-between, I don't know.
 
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Whats with the smoke on ehlers anyway? Servalli reporting were interested? Would assume we’d have to start building a package with a few pieces to accomodate him if he signed.
 
Colezuki said:
Whats with the smoke on ehlers anyway? Servalli reporting were interested? Would assume we’d have to start building a package with a few pieces to accomodate him if he signed.
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There's no point to trade for him unless the habs can talk to him beforehand and get a contract worked out, or close to it.

There's no point for the Jets to trade Ehlers unless they can use those assets + to get an upgrade on him.

Habs being interested as a free agent is maybe what he's thinking/reporting as im sure teams are still tampering despite the memo.
 
Colezuki said:
Whats with the smoke on ehlers anyway? Servalli reporting were interested? Would assume we’d have to start building a package with a few pieces to accomodate him if he signed.
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There's not much smoke here to be completely honest.

Ehlers was asked a question in the early parts of the 2024 season as to whether or not he would consider signing elsewhere than Winnipeg after this season, to which he basically responded that he'd look at all options but that his preferrence was to stay with the Jets.

Later, in December, another article was posted speculating that Ehlers, a good friend of Laine's, had supposedly talked to him about how Montreal ended up handling him (Laine), and that he (Ehlers) would not mind signing with Montreal if the Jets can't/won't re-sign him.

Those were some pretty harmless/idle comments by Ehlers, mis-reported and then blown-up way out of proportion.

After that the Montreal rumor mill went a bit crazy and spewed a bunch more speculation, which Seravalli just jumped on to get clicks/views.

I really think Ehlers will sign back with Winnipeg, he just fits so well there and wouldn't have much to gain by risking it to sign elsewhere.
 
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Colezuki said:
Whats with the smoke on ehlers anyway? Servalli reporting were interested? Would assume we’d have to start building a package with a few pieces to accommodate him if he signed.
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Ehlers will finish that contract with the Jets and see how far they can go in the playoffs. Then he becomes UFA and I'm sure Hughes will consider signing him but the deal has to make sense. If he is looking for $9M+ and a max deal, I don't think we do it.

This might come down to what both Laine and Ehlers want for contract extensions. Getting both guys around $8M(-) AAV probably works but then you got to consider how everything looks. Demidov is coming as well and we also have to sign Evans, Heineman, and Dobes. If Evans walks, I believe they might try Newhook at 3C. If Evans resigns, then maybe Newhook is the one we trade out to make room for Ehlers.

Who's playing 3rd line if Ehlers is added? Do we spread our talent on 3 lines and let Evans walk? I find it a bit challenging to fit Ehlers in the line-up after we already have Demidov coming.
 
vokiel said:
It's not even remotely close to guaranteed we resign Laine, so I'd keep that in mind concerning Ehlers.
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Depends a lot on what kind of contract both are after. If they want to sign team friendly deals, it's very possible. If they are looking for $9M+ (each), I say we pass.
 
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