HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The best play for pelletier would be to let him go unclaimed and try to trade for him so he can report to Laval. Offer Farrel or Kidney. Cal may be interested in a player that does not need to clear waiver.

Hudson Fashcing - has size and might be a later bloomer to being an OK player.

Jan Jenik - physical, agitator and can produce. Might be worth the chance to claim him and see what he can do.

Jeffrey Viel- tough gut, physical, would realize some pressure from Xhekaj to have to fight/be the guy who defends the team. Expect no offense.

Cole Scwindt - big body, started off very promising in the A, but seems to just match, or be close to that total and isn't improving.

Jakob Pelletier - too good for the AHL, not good enough for the NHL. Size is an issue. If he clears I hope the Habs try and trade for him, send him down and have him as the first call up.

Nolan Foote - pedigree/name recognition, but good size could be a potential 4th liner as he is a bigger boy and might be taken longer to get things going.

Zach Ashton-Reese - bit of an agitator/energy guy. Would be similar to Pezzetta imo.

Raphael Lavoie - big boy, the game I saw of him in the pre-season he had a bunch of chances, but couldn't score. Isn't afraid afraid get physical. Might be an OK choice for the 2nd line, but would look weird to pick a guy from waivers and give him top 6 minutes.

 

[Deebs]

Hudson Fashcing - has size and might be a later bloomer to being an OK player.

Jan Jenik - physical, agitator and can produce. Might be worth the chance to claim him and see what he can do.

Jeffrey Viel- tough gut, physical, would realize some pressure from Xhekaj to have to fight/be the guy who defends the team. Expect no offense.

Cole Scwindt - big body, started off very promising in the A, but seems to just match, or be close to that total and isn't improving.

Jakob Pelletier - too good for the AHL, not good enough for the NHL. Size is an issue. If he clears I hope the Habs try and trade for him, send him down and have him as the first call up.

Nolan Foote - pedigree/name recognition, but good size could be a potential 4th liner as he is a bigger boy and might be taken longer to get things going.

Zach Ashton-Reese - bit of an agitator/energy guy. Would be similar to Pezzetta imo.

Raphael Lavoie - big boy, the game I saw of him in the pre-season he had a bunch of chances, but couldn't score. Isn't afraid afraid get physical. Might be an OK choice for the 2nd line, but would look weird to pick a guy from waivers and give him top 6 minutes.

Pass on all of them

 

[vokiel]

Oh I accept that that's your opinion. I've seen some clips. I'm not ready to make that comparison.

Do we need another small player? No. But I'm fine with bringing in talent at this point in the rebuild, if he is indeed a talent. RHP I don't consider a talent.

Talent alone will not win you anything, and unless you're in the top 100 of all talents, it won't make you a career either.

A rebuild based solely on talent is a failed rebuild in the making.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

 

[Mrb1p]

Pezz would 100% get claimed from waivers. Even Stanley cup champions Panthers would claim him to replace guys like Lomberg, Lorentz, Cousins on their 4th line.

Sad because I like pezzer but he is replaceable.

Tell me where he fits and how we could use him and how he is better than what we already have.

Guy haven't been able to crack the f***ing Calgary Flames at 23YO. I mean, his only intangible is being Quebecois at this point.

That's a different statement than you made. Yes he's small and may not fit in the lineup but to say he has no intangibles screams ignorance. He was lauded for his two way play, playstyle and bulldog mentality.

 

[MXD]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

Why are you outing yourself as someone who isn't interested in NHL hockey?

 

[Mrb1p]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

Yeah, I watch hockey because I like it. It's also nice that he's québécois.

 

[MXD]

Zach Ashton-Reese - bit of an agitator/energy guy. Would be similar to Pezzetta imo.

I suspect he's done. But he was a VERY good 4th liner a few years ago.

Yeah, I watch hockey because I like it. It's also nice that he's québécois.

He was also at the center of this : Sutter’s mockery of Pelletier’s debut wasn’t just bad leadership – it lacked human decency

And generally quoted as Exhibit A as to why Darryl Sutter was over the hill as an NHL coach.

 

[morhilane]

I'd paper demote Anderson just to make a point.
Go ahead someone claim him.

Hughes will never had the balls to waive Anderson regardless of how bad he plays unfortunatly. He won't even get benched, just demoted to the 4th line.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If Jakob Pelletier can't make the Flames.. let's be real here.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hughes will never had the balls to waive Anderson regardless of how bad he plays unfortunatly. He won't even get benched, just demoted to the 4th line.

So weird though. Why? Anderson is spitting in the organizations face daily. It's spineless of Hughes.

 

[vokiel]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

Probably since he's a first round pick and we're prospect hungry on HF.

 

[HABitual Fan]

I would claim Gaudette, best case scenario he scores you some goals, worst case scenario he doesn't fill the Laval net for Belleville in the 40 games we usually play them.

 

[morhilane]

So weird though. Why? Anderson is spitting in the organizations face daily. It's spineless of Hughes.

Probably still hoping that he "bounce back" like many.

 

[bud12]

What about putting in a claim for Jeffrey Viel? He’s a very solid AHL player that will score between 15-20 goals there, while providing lots of toughness and physicality for the young Habs in Laval.

Could also be called up for games that require more physicality in the lineup, and would not look out of place on the fourth line.

Added bonus would be that you take him away from the Bruins organization.

I said here in the summer during the ufa period that we should have offered him a contract. Tough guy who can play and bonus, he's a quebecer. I rather have him than all of ours 4th liners

 

[Paddy17]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

Asking for thought could be hard...
Because, you know, we should claim this guy at 23 years old, but let's get rid of a slovakian who is already a bust at the old age of 20 starting his pro career... logical thinking...

 

[Skip Bayless]

I would claim Gaudette, best case scenario he scores you some goals, worst case scenario he doesn't fill the Laval net for Belleville in the 40 games we usually play them.

If you claim him you can't send him back I'm afraid.

 

[HABitual Fan]

If you claim him you can't send him back I'm afraid.

Never said I would send him back, I said if he is in Montreal he won't be in the Belleville lineup

 

[Egresch]

Food for thought. If Pelletier was Slovakian, would anyone here even know who he was based on his career thus far?

I would, greetings from Bratislava

Btw, he is literally 3 years older Mešár, but better career in CHL. We already have ABB, RHP, Mešár, Farrell, Kidney who are very similar types.

 

[26Mats]

Talent alone will not win you anything, and unless you're in the top 100 of all talents, it won't make you a career either.

A rebuild based solely on talent is a failed rebuild in the making.

I agree. But I don't like to pass on talent based on current need. Many negative things were said about Marchessault when he was available ahead of the expansion draft. And we didn't need another player of his size then.

I don't expect HuGo to claim him. They passed on Tolvanen two years ago.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Paper-demote Xhekaj and Hutson and we are $2,083 under the cap, assuming PuckPedia's Bonus overage calculation is correct.

I don't think they will demote Hutson because of his performance bonuses.
With Heineman and Kapanen seemingly making the team, i think they're about 3M over.
My quick guess would be paper-demote Xhekaj and Heineman and put RHP on LTIR.
Far from optimal, but i don't think they have many options.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I don't think they will demote Hutson because of his performance bonuses.
With Heineman and Kapanen seemingly making the team, i think they're about 3M over.
My quick guess would be paper-demote Xhekaj and Heineman and put RHP on LTIR.
Far from optimal, but i don't think they have many options.

Won’t Price and Laine also be on LTIR?