HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Deus ex machina]

Are you suggesting that the Habs shouldn't acquire Laine because it would hurt Caulfield's feelings?

I'm saying it's something to consider when building a team.
Caufield is a popular guy in the room. If he's not happy, it will have an effect on other guys.

Of course, they can always change PP strategy.
Apparently they tried to sign Marchessault, who's also a righty, so there's that.

 

[salbutera]

Aaron Portzline is saying Columbus is looking for prospect and picks in a deal for Laine. The Habs have plenty of both.

I would be willing to overpay if that means Barron / Harris + 2nd / 3rd rounder

 

[Tyson]

Aaron Portzline is saying Columbus is looking for prospect and picks in a deal for Laine. The Habs have plenty of both.

If Hughes wants this player he has the pieces and the cap space.

 

[salbutera]

I'm saying it's something to consider when building a team.
Caufield is a popular guy in the room. If he's not happy, it will have an effect on other guys.

Of course, they can always change PP strategy.
Apparently they tried to sign Marchessault, who's also a righty, so there's that.

Laine is a completely different type of scorer, yea both have elite shots but Laine is more corner / board puck retireiver + net front presence than Caufield is.

Just imagine a top-6:

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
McGroarty - Dach - Laine

More size + high end skill that I can recall Habs having at least since 93 and maybe even late 70s - for a top-6

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Laine is a completely different type of scorer, yea both have elite shots but Laine is more corner / board puck retireiver + net front presence than Caufield is.

Just imagine a top-6:

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
McGroarty - Dach - Laine

Are Dach and Laine slow? If not how will McGroarty keep up?

 

[Deus ex machina]

Laine is a completely different type of scorer, yea both have elite shots but Laine is more corner / board puck retireiver + net front presence than Caufield is.

Just imagine a top-6:

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
McGroarty - Dach - Laine

I'm not comparing the two players. Just the role they'd have on the PP.

 

[salbutera]

I'm not comparing the two players. Just the role they'd have on the PP.

Point being having two strong PP units is a very good thing to have with this team the more options Hutson has the better for team success

 

[sampollock]

Point being having two strong PP units is a very good thing to have with this team the more options Hutson has the better for team success

thus it always makes for 2 lines of scoring on 5 on 5
what the habs need and want

 

[salbutera]

Are Dach and Laine slow? If not how will McGroarty keep up?

Sure didn’t seem to have any trouble “keeping up” in college & WJC - he’s got well above avg pace, he’s simply not elite but neither is Laine

 

[Deus ex machina]

Only Habs fans can think a team with five top6 players has too many top6 players.

Not sure how you can conclude i don't want them to get another top6 player.
In fact, i want them to go get one this summer. No sense to wait.
But just not anyone. It has to be the right fit.

Laine fits contract wise but for the rest, i'm not sure.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not sure how you can conclude i don't want them to get another top6 player.
In fact, i want them to go get one this summer. No sense to wait.
But just not anyone. It has to be the right fit.

Laine fits contract wise but for the rest, i'm not sure.

At best Laine gives us what we already have.

At worst, he’s a a huge distraction who costs us assets and disrupts the rebuild.

Again, not wholly against adding someone but it has to make sense.

If we decide that we need more forwards (and I really don’t think we do) then go all in on a power forward for a dimension we don’t have. That makes more sense.

Again though, the Canadiens should be thinking long term. Does Laine get us closer to a cup? I don’t think he does. He might help in the short term but I don’t really care much about that.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Sure didn’t seem to have any trouble “keeping up” in college & WJC - he’s got well above avg pace, he’s simply not elite but neither is Laine

People are talking about him being slow and he was considered that in his draft year. Don't konw if he has improved his skating since then.

 

[1000eeer]

We need to give it a shot with Laine.

If it pans out, it could skyrocket our chances of becoming playoffs contender.

If it doesn't, who cares. We don't hurt our future at all.

Barron or Mesar and a pick should get the job done.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

We need to give it a shot with Laine.

If it pans out, it could skyrocket our chances of becoming playoffs contender.

As long as the pick isn't a first.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We need to give it a shot with Laine.

We really don’t.

If it pans out, it could skyrocket our chances of becoming playoffs contender.

If it doesn't, who cares. We don't hurt our future at all.

Barron or Mesar and a pick should get the job done.

If he tanks he’d be a huge distraction. Plus the pieces we trade away could be used for something else.

We have a whack of forwards coming soon. Laine takes overtime away from prospects we should be developing.

We’re rebuilding, not contending. This guy might help us get to right at best.

We don’t need this guy at all.

 

[Guy Larose]

I would be willing to overpay if that means Barron / Harris + 2nd / 3rd rounder

That's not an overpay. Only in Hab land is giving scraps and leftovers an overpay.

At best Laine gives us what we already have.

At worst, he’s a a huge distraction who costs us assets and disrupts the rebuild.

Again, not wholly against adding someone but it has to make sense.

If we decide that we need more forwards (and I really don’t think we do) then go all in on a power forward for a dimension we don’t have. That makes more sense.

Again though, the Canadiens should be thinking long term. Does Laine get us closer to a cup? I don’t think he does. He might help in the short term but I don’t really care much about that.

We don't have a Laine. And no CC ain't a Laine. Evaluation of Laine is way off if he's ok to play.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We don't have a Laine.

Yeah we do. Several skilled forwards who can put the puck in the net.

We lack size and sand paper in the top six.

 

[morhilane]

Waddell is (rightfully) trying to create a bidding war and he may get his wish as the Caps are apparently very interested in acquiring Laine.

Lets them have him...not sure how they fit him on their negative cap space they can't barely fix with their LTIRs contracts already thought.

 

[The Real Timo]

This is clearly another clickbait article but wondering if the proposed move makes sense. I mean I would take a flyer on Laine on a deal that tests him in the first year and heavily incentivized in the subsequent year(s)

Edit: link didn’t work. It was Laine for Farrell, Konyushkov, 2nd and 4th.

 

[The Great Weal]

Laine has 38 PPP in his 174 games as a Blue Jacket, don't expect him to be a PP savior or anything like that. That being said, he'd be more than fine on the 2nd unit over the likes of RHP/Gallagher/Anderson/Armia/Dvorak. It's a non-issue.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Aaron Portzline is saying Columbus is looking for prospect and picks in a deal for Laine. The Habs have plenty of both.

They're not going to get that unless they're eating the majority of that contract.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'm saying it's something to consider when building a team.
Caufield is a popular guy in the room. If he's not happy, it will have an effect on other guys.

Of course, they can always change PP strategy.
Apparently they tried to sign Marchessault, who's also a righty, so there's that.

I can’t fathom a player who’s already signed long term, being upset the team is adding more firepower to become more competitive and win more games that ultimately lead to being a playoff team.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

How in the world would Laine 'disrupt the rebuild'? The point is that even if he doesn't work out it's not a problem long-term.

 

[vokiel]

They're not going to get that unless they're eating the majority of that contract.

They'll get the picks and prospect if they eat a similar contract. No retention needed.

 

[WeThreeKings]

They'll get the picks and prospect if they eat a similar contract. No retention needed.

Even then - an oft injured guy out of the player assistance program who has not produced near his potential for many seasons now isn't going to garner them a very big return. They might get a B level prospect and a 2nd.