HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Habs 4 Life]

I wouldn't want Miller anywhere next to these young players in the organization. It wouldn't be a good idea IMO

EP, yes !

 

[the]

Yo-Elle will give us a good return by TDL. He looks like a completely different player ever since Laine arrived.

 

[HuGort]

Savard is minimum a cond 2nd round pick. RHD with experience who won the cup. He looks bad because he is used too much against too strong competition but on a stacked team's 3rd pairing he would be fine. Teams value this kind of player a lot for a cup run. We paid a cond 3rd round pick for Dwight King who was a struggling 4th line winger.

Savard returned a first before

 

[Runner77]

Pospisil plays center iirc.

He’d be a great target. Maybe he can still be had while holding on to Evans? You can always play a center on the wings.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yo-Elle will give us a good return by TDL. He looks like a completely different player ever since Laine arrived.

Even Dvorak has been playing better lately being on a line with Gallagher and Anderson. Armia's been solid on the 4th with Heineman and Evans.

Their value may still be low, but it has gone up of late nonethless.

For example, Dvorak might have gotten you a 4th or 5th earlier in the season. But he's been effective lately and if he keeps this up, a team may be willing to offer a 3rd.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Jake Evans to Calgary for Martin Pospisil?

Gives us a cost controlled young vet for another ~2 seasons. Gives Calgary an upgrade to help them with a playoff run.

Thing is, we don't want Calgary to make the playoffs. We want the 1st round pick we have from them to be a non-playoff pick. As long as they don't fall into the Top-10, because then we get Florida's 1st, which will surely be a late 1st round pick.

If Calgary misses the playoffs, but they pick between 11 and 15, Habs get that pick. So we don't want them going in any kind of playoff run.

 

[General Fanager]

I wouldn't want Miller anywhere next to these young players in the organization. It wouldn't be a good idea IMO

EP, yes !

The problem is The Canucks won't want futures, If you call about EP they ask for something(s) big off of the roster or they start talking about Demidov....

Jake Evans to Calgary for Martin Pospisil?

Gives us a cost controlled young vet for another ~2 seasons. Gives Calgary an upgrade to help them with a playoff run.

I would love to get him but the last thing The Habs should do is help Calgary get better.

 

[Habs Icing]

Which UFA nets us more at the deadline?

Armia
Evans
Dvorak
Savard

I'd keep Armia & Evans.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Jake Evans to Calgary for Martin Pospisil?

Gives us a cost controlled young vet for another ~2 seasons. Gives Calgary an upgrade to help them with a playoff run.

I don't think Pospisil addresses a need for us. I certainly would not trade Evans for him.

 

[ReHabs]

I'd keep Armia & Evans.

It’s their chance at a payday, there’s no small chance they chase the dollars. The Habs won’t be competitive any time soon at this rate either, so it’s not like we can promise them that.

Unless we jack up our pt% over Jan and fall firmly into “the mix”, it doesn’t make sense to retain any of the UFAs — unless Evans specifically wants to stay and signs a friendly extension, which I don’t see happening.

 

[vokiel]

He’d be a great target. Maybe he can still be had while holding on to Evans? You can always play a center on the wings.

I doubt they'll be holding on to Evans. Got to move on with the glut of centers we're getting. The estimated waiver year on Beck and Kapanen is 2027-28 btw. It could slide, but both will need their ice time soon. That means we can't sign Jake long or medium term.

Thing is, we don't want Calgary to make the playoffs. We want the 1st round pick we have from them to be a non-playoff pick. As long as they don't fall into the Top-10, because then we get Florida's 1st, which will surely be a late 1st round pick.

If Calgary misses the playoffs, but they pick between 11 and 15, Habs get that pick. So we don't want them going in any kind of playoff run.

Jake Evans doesn't make them a contender, lets not exaggerate. Without some help Calgary will slip into the top 10, and then we'll get Florida's 1st. They are a contender.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Jake Evans to Calgary for Martin Pospisil?

Gives us a cost controlled young vet for another ~2 seasons. Gives Calgary an upgrade to help them with a playoff run.

Calgary passes.

I imagine they look for cheap upgrades, like a roster player and a 4th for a slight upgrade and not selling too much of the future.

 

[vokiel]

Calgary passes.

I imagine they look for cheap upgrades, like a roster player and a 4th for a slight upgrade and not selling too much of the future.

Jake would be a cheap upgrade in this case. Maybe not the best, but you know the more he performs as he does right now the better upgrade he becomes and the higher the likely-hood we get a good return. Could even go to a 1st

 

[DAChampion]

Which UFA nets us more at the deadline?

Armia
Evans
Dvorak
Savard

Hard to see the Habs improve next year if they need to replace 4 vets.

Hard to replace two centers, an RHD, and a big bodied middle six that kills penalties.

 

[General Fanager]

Hard to see the Habs improve next year if they need to replace 4 vets.

Hard to replace two centers, an RHD, and a big bodied middle six that kills penalties.

Id keep Evans but the other 3 can easily be replaced by young guys or depth pick ups on July 1st.

 

[morhilane]

Hard to see the Habs improve next year if they need to replace 4 vets.

Hard to replace two centers, an RHD, and a big bodied middle six that kills penalties.

Savard was already replaced by Carrier.

The other 3 are not that hard to replace, they just need to be replaced via equivalent type players and not fancy zero-defensive IQ who can't PK players. Can be from UFA, trade or prospects.

The main problem will still be the 2nd line center if Dach can't fix his mojo.

 

[DAChampion]

Savard was already replaced by Carrier.

The other 3 are not that hard to replace, they just need to be replaced via equivalent type players and not fancy zero-defensive IQ who can't PK players. Can be from UFA, trade or prospects.

The main problem will still be the 2nd line center if Dach can't fix his mojo.

I'm reading two things:

That these players are easy to replace, and,
That Hughes will bring in a haul by trading them at the deadline.

Which is it? That seems like a bit of a contradiction to me.

 

[Essenege]

Is it just me or Savard is looking terrible? There’s a reason he’s on the bottom pairing , he’s just too slow now and a real liability.

Look at Carrier-Guhle last night. Quick on the puck in the d-zone, fast transition renders the opposition’s forecheck completely ineffective. When Savard is on the ice, he’s so slow to get to the puck that we end up defending most shifts.

All that to say, I think we’re not a worst team playing Mailloux on the bottom pairing so just trade him now.

 

[Rapala]

I'm reading two things:

That these players are easy to replace, and,
That Hughes will bring in a haul by trading them at the deadline.

Which is it? That seems like a bit of a contradiction to me.

There definitely won't be a haul at TDL.
The only player that has garnered interest so far is Jake Evans.

 

[Archijerej]

Yes, and I don't think KH signs a center to a long term contract with: Beck, Kapanen, Hage, potentially the 2025 1st round pick, potentially Demidov, Dach & Newhook who will all be able to fill bottom 6 minutes in some way.

Unless Dach proves otherwise, we have ONE NHL capable center under contract for next season.

Of course they are going to invest in the position, unless you believe they are perfectly fine with wrecking another season after this one.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I can see the Habs going to Savard and telling him if they get a certain return they'll move him, but if his value falls to like a 4th, or 5th I can see the Habs keeping Savard and re-signing him, but he's told he won't be a regular next year.

Veteran, good leadership, seems well liked by the team and a RHD.

So, you re-sign him and he plays like 50 games, or maybe less next year.

You get that depth dman and one you know.

Reinbacher will need at least half of next season in the A and then reevaluate.

Mailloux has slowed down, so he will probably need more time to see where he's at.

I haven't looked at potential available RHD just know of Ekblad and he might be 7ish mill

 

[morhilane]

I'm reading two things:

That these players are easy to replace, and,
That Hughes will bring in a haul by trading them at the deadline.

Which is it? That seems like a bit of a contradiction to me.

I doubt any of them will bring in a haul unless some GM gets fleeced. Evans has the most value, the other 3 will need to be retained on and since the Habs only have one retaining slot left, two of them might not be worth trading at all.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Savard returned a first before

He's worse now. He's really slowed down. A second is probably his value now just for his pk work. He's a bottom pairing/pk killing D.

Carrier was out in final minutes of last night's game not Savard.

Teams that could use a bottom pairing RD who can PK include: Minnesota (30th), Calgary (27th), Edmonton (26th), Ottawa (24th), Colorado (22nd) & Utah (18th).

Savard to Utah for 2026 2nd & 3rd round draft picks (they have extra picks) would be a solid deal for both teams, especially with Utah pushing for a playoff spot.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I doubt any of them will bring in a haul unless some GM gets fleeced. Evans has the most value, the other 3 will need to be retained on and since the Habs only have one retaining slot left, two of them might not be worth trading at all.

Dvorak is the guy we should retain on. He's no where near his contract value.

Armia is not far off. He's just at the high end. He's in that $2.75m-$3.5m range.

 

[Whalers Fan]

I doubt they'll be holding on to Evans. Got to move on with the glut of centers we're getting. The estimated waiver year on Beck and Kapanen is 2027-28 btw. It could slide, but both will need their ice time soon. That means we can't sign Jake long or medium term.

That "glut" of centers is still a ways off, and there's no guarantee all of Beck, Kapanen and Hage will make it. Dvorak will be gone next season. Dach and Newhook may end up being wingers. Signing Evans for four years doesn't mean he cannot be traded away 2-3 years later, should all three of those prospects do hit their potential.

A team can almost never have too much center depth.