HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Deebs]

I took an old man nap when I came back from work and I had a short dream where we managed to land both Tage Thompson AND Rasmus Andersson. I was sad I had to wake up, not gonna lie.

Do you always dream about young men? j/k

 

[Halakitlikethat]

High chance lol. How many years did it take for Andersson to become a good RHD?
Not only you want to trade a high pick (Calgary first) + but also a recent top 5 pick (Reinbacher).....

How about you give Reinbacher 2 more seasons before you give up on him for a 28 years old player.....

Like I said in my original post, I don’t think management would do this. But I would. It’s why I’m not a GM.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

His value has NOT dropped. If he gets hurt again next season it will.

I will have to disagree. After a poor D plus 1 and missing this whole season, there is no way his value is what it was after they used a top 5 pick for him.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I will have to disagree. After a poor D plus 1 and missing this whole season, there is no way his value is what it was after they used a top 5 pick for him.

The D+1 was not "poor". The team was poor but David worked on things. And the 11 games in Laval to finish the year were borderline excellent.

 

[sampollock]

I think a big trade is coming. Too many assets. Way too many assets. Matheson isn't a long term solution.

I would not be surprised between now and deadline if habs get a 1st pairing defender.

A top centre is my wish

 

[Habs7631]

One more trade for Dach and the prophecy will be complete.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Matheson
2025 1st Calgary

For:

Big 1st pairing minute eating RD defensive partner for Hutson

 

[NewDef]

If he comes with an extension, I have no issues sending the Calgary 1st, Kapanen and Konyushkov for Andersson.. if they really want to push and go for the CGY 1st and Mailloux, I'd do it with the extension.

I'd be warry to trade Konyushkov too fast. He's a solid prospect, getting to maturity in a hard league, he'll be mostly ready when he comes to america and could be a great help for Demidov who would otherwise feel pretty far from home.

Considering Kapanen and Beck target 3rd center and although I liked Kapanen I feel we can't have both and Kapanen does'nt have the size/grit to play 4th line center. My take is Beck will start on the 4th with Evans on 3rd until he push him back on the 4th.

So yeah to Kapanen but not Konyushkov yet. Konyushkov may have a much higher value once he show whay he can do.

 

[ZUKI]

I will have to disagree. After a poor D plus 1 and missing this whole season, there is no way his value is what it was after they used a top 5 pick for him.

i don't think that pro peoples would tag his last season as poor. His team was a complete disaster, and they got 50 coaches during the season.(ok, less than 50, but...). Pro peoples are used to consider these kinds of bad elements surrounding a player, instead of looking stats sheets.

 

[Habsrule]

Three targets I would be after as UFAs this summer are;

Pavel Buchnevich age 30
Andrei Kuzmenko age 29
Vlad Namestnikov age 32


I would love to add a Russian forward to the team to help ease Demidov in. Make them a mentor to him.

Maybe even trade for one of them this year so that way they get acclimated to the Montreal culture before signing a new contract. Namestnikov plays in Winnipeg so I can’t see them trading him unless for a roster upgrade. Kuzmenko is on Calgary and I’m not sure if they will be buyers or sellers come deadline time. Buchnevich is on St. Louis and they look like they could be sellers. Not sure what his trade value is but if it is cheap I would think about adding him this year.

Another name I’ll throw out there is Vladimir Tarasenko. He has one more year at 4.75 on contract. Not sure if Detroit would look to move him or not. He has only 12 points in 30 games this year so I am not so sure that they would have him in their future plans.

 

[Sorinth]

Three targets I would be after as UFAs this summer are;

Pavel Buchnevich age 30
Andrei Kuzmenko age 29
Vlad Namestnikov age 32


I would love to add a Russian forward to the team to help ease Demidov in. Make them a mentor to him.

Maybe even trade for one of them this year so that way they get acclimated to the Montreal culture before signing a new contract. Namestnikov plays in Winnipeg so I can’t see them trading him unless for a roster upgrade. Kuzmenko is on Calgary and I’m not sure if they will be buyers or sellers come deadline time. Buchnevich is on St. Louis and they look like they could be sellers. Not sure what his trade value is but if it is cheap I would think about adding him this year.

Another name I’ll throw out there is Vladimir Tarasenko. He has one more year at 4.75 on contract. Not sure if Detroit would look to move him or not. He has only 12 points in 30 games this year so I am not so sure that they would have him in their future plans.

The main reason to get a Russian speaking player to help ease a player in is because when you don't speak the native language well it can be somewhat isolating. But it really doesn't seem like it will be needed in Demidov's case. His English is already pretty good, he's got a fairly outgoing personality, and a high dedication level, on top of which we've seen the lockeroom really goes out of it's way to be inclusive. So honestly I'd rather he learn/bond with the guys like Caufield/Suzuki/Slafkovsky/etc... then the guys you mentioned.

 

[Heffyhoof]

If anyone needs a hearty laugh, go check the main board trades for the Tage thread.

"Habs fans, start your proposals with Suzuki and a top 3 protected first, then add another asset you consider untouchable, then maybe, just maybe, you'll get the attention of Sabres fans."

Who here would even trade Suzuki 1-for-1 let alone add?

 

[Jack Spider]

If anyone needs a hearty laugh, go check the main board trades for the Tage thread.

"Habs fans, start your proposals with Suzuki and a top 3 protected first, then add another asset you consider untouchable, then maybe, just maybe, you'll get the attention of Sabres fans."

Who here would even trade Suzuki 1-for-1 let alone add?

Tage Thompson looks like a model so some people like him. Not my thing but I know.

 

[HuGort]

Are they even allowed to gauge his interest before July 1st , 2025 ?

Andersson has as said 1 year left after this one. If we offered Matheson who has 2 years left after this year and their 1st I wonder if that would be of interest to them. I would offer the 1st and Mailloux if that would do it.

If we could get Andersson he and Guhle should make for a very strong top pairing and I think Guhle would show more of whatever offensive ability he has.

Hutson gets the 3 spot and he needs a RHD to hold the 4 spot to give Reinbacher a chance to develop. If Reinbacher is the D HUGO thinks he is to take him at 5 I think he should be fighting for and hopefully grabbing that 4 spot in 2 years.

That could make for a very good top 4 and we have an abundance of guys to fill spits 5 and 6, namely Xhekaj and Struble right now.

Sounds enough to me. More than I would offer though. Unless you mean give Flames choice of their pick or Florida. I may do trade then.

 

[bud12]

Does that make us better?

Yes

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[HuGort]

That makes 0 sense for the Canucks. They're not moving their star center for an undersized winger that brings significantly less production.

I think they may move either Miller or Peterson

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Matheson
2025 1st Calgary

For:

Big 1st pairing minute eating RD defensive partner for Hutson

That doesn't get you any 1st pairing dman, let alone a right handed one.

 

[Habs Icing]

Matheson
2025 1st Calgary

For:

Big 1st pairing minute eating RD defensive partner for Hutson

I can't believe the insanity on this board. Hutson is not a top-pair D-man, even with a first-pair minute-eating RD defenceman to babysit him.

 

[morhilane]

I think they may move either Miller or Peterson

I've seen some rumors that there might be an issue between Miller and Peterson. But Miller is the better producer (since last season), lower AAV and got a full no move clause (while EP no move start next July). That's why Canucks fans are talking about EP getting moved.

 

[Hannibal]

I have a strange feeling that we won’t trade Savard and trade Matheson instead

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Reinbachers value is not of a 5th overall pick anymore.

What are the chances he becomes a better player than Anderson is?

What are the chances Anderson’s a better player five years from now? Ten years from now?

 

[therocket9]

Three targets I would be after as UFAs this summer are;

Pavel Buchnevich age 30
Andrei Kuzmenko age 29
Vlad Namestnikov age 32


I would love to add a Russian forward to the team to help ease Demidov in. Make them a mentor to him.

Maybe even trade for one of them this year so that way they get acclimated to the Montreal culture before signing a new contract. Namestnikov plays in Winnipeg so I can’t see them trading him unless for a roster upgrade. Kuzmenko is on Calgary and I’m not sure if they will be buyers or sellers come deadline time. Buchnevich is on St. Louis and they look like they could be sellers. Not sure what his trade value is but if it is cheap I would think about adding him this year.

Another name I’ll throw out there is Vladimir Tarasenko. He has one more year at 4.75 on contract. Not sure if Detroit would look to move him or not. He has only 12 points in 30 games this year so I am not so sure that they would have him in their future plans.

Buchnevich has 3 more years left at 8 million per after this year.

 

[sampollock]

Buchnevich has 3 more years left at 8 million per after this year.

way to much cash

 

[vokiel]

I have a strange feeling that we won’t trade Savard and trade Matheson instead

I have a not so strange feeling both will be traded before their respective deals end.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I have a strange feeling that we won’t trade Savard and trade Matheson instead

Savard is getting moved 100% IMO, we already replaced him with Carrier. Expiring deal, there is no spots for him going forward. The only thing with trading him, is that we are definitely not getting back what people thought we could. At best a 2nd rounder if KH can find a fish ...

As for Matheson, we should be up for moving him but only if there can be a top 3 D somewhere around the league available and trade for him separately. We cannot start next year with Carrier and the rest of our young defense IMO