HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Boss Man Hughes]

Badly!!!!

NO. They can use more picks but they can probably contend with what they have. It will take a couple of years for all the prospects they have now to contribute.

 

[Habby4Life]

NO. They can use more picks but they can probably contend with what they have. It will take a couple of years for all the prospects they have now to contribute.

This team sucks, this season is over, they need top end talent badly. Team is garbage so yeah, they need a top pick badly.

FYI- all the prospect won’t make the habs and not all will be difference makers.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

This team sucks, this season is over, they need top end talent badly. Team is garbage so yeah, they need a top pick badly.

FYI- all the prospect won’t make the habs and not all will be difference makers.

Absolute drivel. The team may need more players but it is far too early to know when they are the 2nd yougnest team in the league.

 

[Habby4Life]

When your goalie is bad(as Monty was in the 3rd) it is not surprising young guys give up. Good teams lose big occasionally too.

If the young guys gave up then they should be gone. Good teams & good players don’t quit.

Good teams don’t get spanked 1/4 of the time. Really shitty ones do.

Nice attempt justifying guys quitting.

 

[Habby4Life]

Absolute drivel. The team may need more players but it is far too early to know when they are the 2nd yougnest team in the league.

I don’t know what team you are watching, lol. They get spanked every 4 games, they can’t play a lick of defense, and they have mailed games in.

They have NS, CC, Slaf, PL, Guhle, Lane and Monty. The rest of the team is JUNK. They have one blue chip prospect Demidov, shot for giggles I will add DR and the rest who knows how long before they are ready, and if they even pan out.

They have holes everywhere. Yeah, they don’t need a top 5 pick, they are too good, LOL

 

[Sterling Archer]

First of all, we are worse in our zone this year. Secondly nobody can play freaking hockey on the right side! Nobody! Hell he would probably be Top 2 with us right now because of it. Not saying he's a great D, just that he was a calming presence out there. Plus we can never have enough of big hard working D men in the line-up(was a big reason why it worked so well in our cup run with Weber, Pretry, Chiarot, etc...). When we have many of these big guys, we become hard to play against. Numbers matters.

Kovy is not the difference maker you and other are making him out to be. He’s not Weber, Petry, Edmundson or Chiarot level, or even close. Just stop. It’s ridiculous. No one knows what could’ve been if Hughes didn’t trade Kovy, except that this team wouldn’t be much better then they are now, if at all.

 

[Kimota]

Kovy is not the difference maker you and other are making him out to be. He’s not Weber, Petry, Edmundson or Chiarot level, or even close. Just stop. It’s ridiculous. No one knows what could’ve been if Hughes didn’t trade Kovy, except that this team wouldn’t be much better then they are now, if at all.

We're just saying he might help solidify our D squad. Would he be better than Savard? yes would he be better than Barron? Yes. That's already a plus. Also none of our experiments putting lefties on the right has worked. It's stupid wasting Ghule and guys like that on the right if they cannot play at their 100%.

 

[Scriptor]

Montreal really needs to acquire a legitimate top-4 RHD -- IF NOT TWO!

We don't even have ONE of those right now, we don't know how Mailloux will recover from a serious knee injury.

The RHD situation, right now, is even more serious than the C situation.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Montreal really needs to acquire a legitimate top-4 RHD -- IF NOT TWO!

We don't even have ONE of those right now, we don't know how Mailloux will recover from a serious knee injury.

The RHD situation, right now, is even more serious than the C situation.

You mean Reinbacher, but yes, you're correct.

 

[Sterling Archer]

We're just saying he might help solidify our D squad. Would he be better than Savard? yes would he be better than Barron? Yes. That's already a plus. Also none of our experiments putting lefties on the right has worked. It's stupid wasting Ghule and guys like that on the right if they cannot play at their 100%.

Rather than fantasize about what he could have done, I’m looking at what affect he actually had as a Hab. And the answer is not much.

 

[Habs Icing]

This team sucks, this season is over, they need top end talent badly. Team is garbage so yeah, they need a top pick badly.

FYI- all the prospect won’t make the habs and not all will be difference makers.

Do they need a top pick badly or simply have their chosen picks mature?

The picks from the first two rounds of the past 3 years:

Demidov
Hage
Reinbacher
Slaf
Mesar
Beck
Hutson.

That's seven. Of those seven only two are on the team. This doesn't take into consideration the prospects outside the first two rounds or those chosen from the previous management, such as:
Thorpe
Protz
Fowler
Xhekaj
Engstrom
Davidson
Mailloux
Kapanen
Roy

Now take into consideration the treasure trove of draft picks Hugo has and we don't need a top pick badly. We can make trades for young players or prospects.

Continuously losing is bad not just for the fans but also for the players. Example Buffalo Sabres.

 

[Benstheman]

Montreal really needs to acquire a legitimate top-4 RHD -- IF NOT TWO!

We don't even have ONE of those right now, we don't know how Mailloux will recover from a serious knee injury.

The RHD situation, right now, is even more serious than the C situation.

I wouldn't say 2 X top 4 but 1 top 4 and a bottom pair that is good defensively. You sign the top 4 long term and the bottom pair for 2-3 years max. You need to keep a spot open for Mailloux/Reinbacher next season and eventually for the other one.

 

[Habby4Life]

Do they need a top pick badly or simply have their chosen picks mature?

The picks from the first two rounds of the past 3 years:

Demidov
Hage
Reinbacher
Slaf
Mesar
Beck
Hutson.

That's seven. Of those seven only two are on the team. This doesn't take into consideration the prospects outside the first two rounds or those chosen from the previous management, such as:
Thorpe
Protz
Fowler
Xhekaj
Engstrom
Davidson
Mailloux
Kapanen
Roy

Now take into consideration the treasure trove of draft picks Hugo has and we don't need a top pick badly. We can make trades for young players or prospects.

Continuously losing is not bad just for the fans but also for the players. Example Buffalo Sabres.

You’re preaching to the choir. I’m not one of those who wants to continually tank. I’m not happy how this season is going.

This year is done, in the mix is over, so yes I feel tall that’s left is securing a top pick. Yes, all those guys listed Demidov is the only blue chip. This team could use a Misa or Hagens badly.

 

[sampollock]

If we see something big happen in Montreal, it will probably be trading players to get additional assets. They [the Canadiens] will then use those assets to create a package with draft picks to get their hands on an NHL-caliber player." - David Pagnotta

 

[morhilane]

If we see something big happen in Montreal, it will probably be trading players to get additional assets. They [the Canadiens] will then use those assets to create a package with draft picks to get their hands on an NHL-caliber player." - David Pagnotta

Habs already have enough assets in the next two drafts (11 picks in the top 3 rounds) and in their prospects pool to get their hands on a NHL-caliber player. If that was the plan, it would have already happened.

And their UFAs aren't worth that much this year anyway.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Habs already have enough assets in the next two drafts (11 picks in the top 3 rounds) and in their prospects pool to get their hands on a NHL-caliber player. If that was the plan, it would have already happened.

And their UFAs aren't worth that much this year anyway.

Pagnotta is a fraud.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Pagnotta is a fraud.

Surprised that site still gets traffic lol

 

[Benstheman]

I would take a flyer at Brogen or Perbix in the UFA market.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Montreal really needs to acquire a legitimate top-4 RHD -- IF NOT TWO!

We don't even have ONE of those right now, we don't know how Mailloux will recover from a serious knee injury.

The RHD situation, right now, is even more serious than the C situation.

It is.

RB will come up at some point next year. That will help. But we need a legit RD to eat some minutes. Savard is okay but he’s probably more of a 3rd pairing guy.

 

[Benstheman]

It is.

RB will come up at some point next year. That will help. But we need a legit RD to eat some minutes. Savard is okay but he’s probably more of a 3rd pairing guy.

If Savard wants to come back on a short term, low salary (2M$) contract I would be open to it but I would favour a younger guy who can step in as the occasional 2nd pair guy if needed.

 

[Andy]

I have no doubt the habs have the assets to acquire at least a top 4 D-man and top 6 centre: Multiple firsts and seconds. Expendable prospects like Roy, Mesar, Kapanen, Mailloux (yes folks, these are the type of players that do in fact get traded in these types of move), and some roster players like Dach and Newhook who despite their struggles still hold value. I could see Barron and Struble also be involved in trade talks.

The assets are there. Just need to find the right opportunity.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If Savard wants to come back on a short term, low salary (2M$) contract I would be open to it but I would favour a younger guy who can step in as the occasional 2nd pair guy if needed.

We need a minute muncher. A legit RD who can step in. We can’t just bring in the younger players to carry the day. How long until Mailloux? Good question. Great tools but he’s not ready. And it’s asking a lot for us to have RB just step in. He could be two years away.

 

[ML16]

Habs already have enough assets in the next two drafts (11 picks in the top 3 rounds) and in their prospects pool to get their hands on a NHL-caliber player. If that was the plan, it would have already happened.

And their UFAs aren't worth that much this year anyway.

Although I concur the Habs already have the assets for targeting impact players, seems to me that the timing is not there yet. The D corps is still too young, there’s still too many bodies with unmovable contracts up front and no real alternative but to give Slafkovski, Dach and Newhook significant icetime to hopefully turn things around.

Next offseason is when Hughes can start pulling the trigger on trades and signings for a top-6 C and a high-end RHD.

Even then, 2025-2026 should remain a transition year (Demidov, 2025 1st, Reinbacher and Dobes being integrated in the lineup), so the most tangible launch of the competitive window should be around the 2026-2027 season.

 

[Treb]

Habs already have enough assets in the next two drafts (11 picks in the top 3 rounds) and in their prospects pool to get their hands on a NHL-caliber player. If that was the plan, it would have already happened.

And their UFAs aren't worth that much this year anyway.

You need roster space for said NHL-caliber player.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Habs already have enough assets in the next two drafts (11 picks in the top 3 rounds) and in their prospects pool to get their hands on a NHL-caliber player. If that was the plan, it would have already happened.

And their UFAs aren't worth that much this year anyway.

Draft picks are like NHL currency. You can't never have too many of those.
The more they have, the better chances they get to have what teams want in a trade and to beat other teams' offers.

And i think they'd rather not trade their own 1sts.