HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Bombshell11]

I'd easily swap a couple lower end a prospects for Jiricek. Like Mesar and Mailloux.

What happend to Kulich?

For Jiricek i would swap Reinbacker easely

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

MacEwen is on waivers.

He's an upgrade on Pezzetta who hasn't played in like a month, or once in a month.

It's more of a new look player than anything

He can compare Ottawa and Montreal and see which one is more f***ed

 

[themilosh]

What happend to Kulich?

For Jiricek i would swap Reinbacker easely

i think this would be one of those trades that haunts us.. Rainman has the it factor, but, inujuries? thing is D men take years to develop and some can stay in the league well into their 30s.. Jiricek must have a few warts for CLB to be so down on him.. I def want to give him a try, but only at the possibility of adding a RHD - not swapping. IF that is the req then i think Mailloux would be the one.

 

[Xirik]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

 

[Benstheman]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

I would do it as a Habs fan but I doubt it would be enough.

 

[Vachon23]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

I simply don’t see CBS accepting Beck for Jiricek

 

[Draft]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

When are you going to admit that you're a Habs fan? Few people hate the Habs as much as Habs fans, you'll fit in great!

I don't think Habs are interested in moving Beck. We're in a precarious situation when it comes to centers and sorely lacking guys that bring a good mix of skill, grit, and defensive ability in our lineup AND in our prospect pool. Additionally, the difference between Jiricek and Mailloux is minimal. Similar age, similar skillset, similar weaknesses, and I'm not sure if we'd be any more keen to play him in the NHL than Columbus. Leaves us with Reinbacher, Barron, Jiricek, and Mailloux all fighting for a spot in the NHL next year. Doesn't make sense.

So if you're looking for a Habs deal, maybe a deal around Mailloux for Jiricek if MTL management felt it was a significant upgrade, but I think it's unlikely.

 

[1909]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

I certainly hope not. Barron + a pick for Jiricek would be enough.

 

[Habs7631]

I certainly hope not. Barron + a pick for Jiricek would be enough.

What “pick” would be the add? Quite the difference between a 1st and a 5th.

And if they pick you’re adding is anything but a 1st, I think several teams can beat that offer easily.

 

[Tyson]

When are you going to admit that you're a Habs fan? Few people hate the Habs as much as Habs fans, you'll fit in great!

I don't think Habs are interested in moving Beck. We're in a precarious situation when it comes to centers and sorely lacking guys that bring a good mix of skill, grit, and defensive ability in our lineup AND in our prospect pool. Additionally, the difference between Jiricek and Mailloux is minimal. Similar age, similar skillset, similar weaknesses, and I'm not sure if we'd be any more keen to play him in the NHL than Columbus. Leaves us with Reinbacher, Barron, Jiricek, and Mailloux all fighting for a spot in the NHL next year. Doesn't make sense.

So if you're looking for a Habs deal, maybe a deal around Mailloux for Jiricek if MTL management felt it was a significant upgrade, but I think it's unlikely.

Beck is too intriguing to move this early.

 

[Treb]

What happend to Kulich?

For Jiricek i would swap Reinbacker easely

Great for 2 seasons in the AHL, 2 goals in 12 games in the NHL this season.

 

[Harry Wong]

No, you would be wrong again. Both started coming into their own in their D+5, I don't know why you would not count the seasons they spent elsewhere after their draft, it's frankly disingenuous not to. Pacioretty in particular was a draft pick many were bashing until he asked to be sent down and made strides in his game. Dach did in his D+4 then got a major injury in his D+5 that has derailed his progress. Newhook was very good down the stretch last year and was pacing for 50 points. Lots of players are looking bad this year due to the team being dysfunctional on the ice, it's hard to make any projections on the roster right now due to

Dach has just physically recovered from ACL surgery. Psychological recovery will take an undetermined amount of time.
I think we may be fortunate to see to see some hopeful signs at first intermittent,by the last quarter of the year. We must be patient.

 

[themilosh]

Columbus will want a 1 for 1 trade.

The Hab's have Beck, Kapanen, and Hage. They have a surplus on non 1st line center prospects.

Hage has the highest ceiling you'd want to keep, and Kapanen alone wouldn't seal the deal.

So that leaves Beck.

Would the Hab's be willing to trade Beck for Jiricek? Hard to tell.

Managing to Keep Reinbacher, Mail, and adding Jiricek would mean there wouldn't be a need for the Habs to look at Defense at the draft and allow them to focus solely on drafting a C or Winger with their two 1st round picks.

my 2 cents anyway.

R u kidding me? If CLB wanted Beck for Jiricek in 1 v 1 trade, i would personally run from Toronto to Columbus to hand deliver the signature.

This insane speaking.. i love Beck, going to be a great 3/2C for a decade in the NHL.. but if you get the opportunity to add a 2/1 RHD you have to accept. I am so tired of the constant over-evaluating of out prospects.. stop it..

 

[Tyson]

R u kidding me? If CLB wanted Beck for Jiricek in 1 v 1 trade, i would personally run from Toronto to Columbus to hand deliver the signature.

This insane speaking.. i love Beck, going to be a great 3/2C for a decade in the NHL.. but if you get the opportunity to add a 2/1 RHD you have to accept. I am so tired of the constant over-evaluating of out prospects.. stop it..

I saw Jean Luc Grand-Pierre recently say that there is concern that Jiricek can't process the NHL speed (hockey IQ). Is it true? I have no idea but he is back in the minors.
I have watched Beck play every Laval game and I wouldn't be so quick to trade him for David Jiricek.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

I would do it as a Habs fan but I doubt it would be enough.

Trade Beck for some head case melodramatic disaster? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[Michoulicious]

We have to all-in for Jiricek.

RHD, big, physical, good shot. Mobility is a problem, hockey sense maybe.

I loved him in his draft year, had him #3 OA over Slaf.

Only Demidov is off the table. Perfect age for the core.

Reinbacher one for one?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

R u kidding me? If CLB wanted Beck for Jiricek in 1 v 1 trade, i would personally run from Toronto to Columbus to hand deliver the signature.

This insane speaking.. i love Beck, going to be a great 3/2C for a decade in the NHL.. but if you get the opportunity to add a 2/1 RHD you have to accept. I am so tired of the constant over-evaluating of out prospects.. stop it..

No way to know for sure what Jiricek is. He may be a dud. Beck is not a dud. Is Jiricek even good defensively. If HuGo think he is as good as Reinbacher they would do it. If they don't they will have no interest in him.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

Reinbacher one for one?

You're literally trading one bust who'll serve as a career journeyman for another one who'll make it, but as a specialist. Montreal wins the trade, of course, but it's shuffling deck chairs at that point.

 

[Habs7631]

We have Suzuki, Hage projects to be a top 6 center and we’ll probably draft another top center this year (Hagens, Misa, McQueen, Desnoyers). Probably gonna re-sign Evans too.

Beck will be at best a 3rd line C on this team, maybe a 4th line C. Good 3rd/4th line centers get traded every year for 2nd/3rd/4th round pick.

If we can trade from a position of possible surplus to fill weakness why not. Especially since the player we would be acquiring in this scenario would have a much higher ceiling. Trading a player that projects as a 3rd/4th line for a player that has top pairing RD potential? I do Beck for Jiricek no doubt. I’d add too. Beck+Mesar, Beck+Roy, Beck+2nd,Beck + 2 of our 3rd round picks in this upcoming draft. Beck+Barron. Why not.

That’s assuming he doesn’t have attitude problems... If he does then yeah pass...

 

[Draft]

We have to all-in for Jiricek.

RHD, big, physical, good shot. Mobility is a problem, hockey sense maybe.

I loved him in his draft year, had him #3 OA over Slaf.

Only Demidov is off the table. Perfect age for the core.

Reinbacher one for one?

Do you feel that having two big, dumb, slow offensive dmen with big shots on the right side is a recipe for success? I’m all for having one, hoping they develop, and celebrating the good things they can do well, but Jiricek AND Mailloux?

 

[SakuKoivu11]

David Jiricek trade value right now is at all time low.
Its not he doesn't know how to play, its because he needs to improve his defensive game.
His offence is good but he tends to look around in the defensive zone.
He's now a project with high potential.
Similar to Kirby Dach when we traded for him with Chicago.

I think Jiricek trade value is a first round pick and a second or third round pick or someone like Justin Barron and 2nd round pick.

 

[Treb]

We have to all-in for Jiricek.

RHD, big, physical, good shot. Mobility is a problem, hockey sense maybe.

I loved him in his draft year, had him #3 OA over Slaf.

Only Demidov is off the table. Perfect age for the core.

Reinbacher one for one?

No we don't.

No we shouldn't.

I get that Reinbacher hasn't had a stellar curve since drafted, but neither has Jiricek. In fact, I'm pretty confident people who be apocalyptic about Jiricek performance so far.

The potential Reinbacher also fit better than the potential Jiricek on the team.

 

[themilosh]

I saw Jean Luc Grand-Pierre recently say that there is concern that Jiricek can't process the NHL speed (hockey IQ). Is it true? I have no idea but he is back in the minors.
I have watched Beck play every Laval game and I wouldn't be so quick to trade him for David Jiricek.

But right now, you do. You make that trade 10/10 times..

 

[themilosh]

You're literally trading one bust who'll serve as a career journeyman for another one who'll make it, but as a specialist. Montreal wins the trade, of course, but it's shuffling deck chairs at that point.

Damn that hits hard.. two u20 Stud RD prospects who wont be fully filled out until theyre 23.. name one other RD drafted at the same time that looks any better? If these guys are busts the future in the NHL looks bleak.. might aswell throw in Levshunov too, since hes just getting back from injury.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

No idea why we suddenly “need” David Jiricek, and why we’d ever entertain moving a top notch prospect in Owen Beck?

For a guy who can’t crack the Columbus Blue Jackets starting rotation. They ain’t exactly the 1970s Habs with the big 3 back there.

Owen Beck is a winner. All he does is win. Everywhere he goes. He’s loved by all of his coaches, his teammates. He’s incredibly intelligent (on and off the ice), he wins draws like a machine, and he plays with a mean streak that can cross the line. He can kill penalties, and using his elite speed he will always be a threat shorthanded. Strong defensive game overshadows the fact that he has a vicious and accurate shot. He reminds me of a similar cerebral player from Peterborough, who wore the captain’s “C” for many years and has his number in the rafters.

In short, he’s everything you’d want in a third line center. You don’t give up on guys like that, he’s the gritty/talented type of player that we need MORE of, not less, and in this case you’d be trading a sure fire NHL player for some magic beans. I’m shocked that some folks would even consider it if I’m being honest.