HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[MarkovsKnee]

Why? What do we have to prove ? Are we trying to compete ? By all accounts, we're trying to be in the mix, and we're not even in the mix. What are we losing by having Dach struggle at C ? No second line ? We don't have one.

He was doing great last year in training camp.

My sanity?

Seriously, you need to at least be able to work hard, compete & put in an effort. He's not doing any of that at center. He's a player who's helping to bring down the entire team. Soft backhand passes to no one in our zone, can't defend to save his life, doesn't move his feet to gain position but tries to stick check, there's a long list.

He severely lacks confidence right now. Putting him in a situation where you know he's going to fail isn't going to help.

Instead, he should stay on wing at least until January 1st. He needs positional consistency and some time.

We'll see how his game is going in the new year.

 

[Mrb1p]

My sanity?

Seriously, you need to at least be able to work hard, compete & put in an effort. He's not doing any of that at center. He's a player who's helping to bring down the entire team. Soft backhand passes to no one in our zone, can't defend to save his life, doesn't move his feet to gain position but tries to stick check, there's a long list.

He severely lacks confidence right now. Putting him in a situation where you know he's going to fail isn't going to help.

Instead, he should stay on wing at least until January 1st. He needs positional consistency and some time.

We'll see how his game is going in the new year.

So? With all that is said here? We promote him to the 1st line with our best player to help him get carried? It makes absolutely no sense lmao. Were not competing, were building.

 

[Treb]

I've never understood this meme, Ryder, Halak and a 2nd seems like a pretty solid package of value.

Halak was without doubt a #1 goalie, and Ryder a consistent productive goal scorer, a 2nd rounder never needs to be scoffed at.

I believe the meme come from many people making proposals centered around this package back then.

 

[Zilo44]

I believe the meme come from many people making proposals centered around this package back then.

Indeed. It was constantly being offered for 1st line players on the main board

 

[junyab]

These are the guys I'd be trying to get:
- Schenn
- Gudas
- DeMelo
- Manson
- Clifton
- Ristolainen
- Ceci

We don't need anything flashy. Just some grit/toughness and/or stability on the right side to eat up minutes and not be a liability. I realize these guys are doing those roles with their current teams but maybe they're available, who knows.

 

[Milhouse40]

Would you trade Newhook for Zegras even up?

Would seriously consider it, played with Caufield a lot and there was chemistry between the two.
Might be a better fit.

 

[sampollock]

My guess. A stick or a frisbee. Maybe coffee, if the development coaches do their job.

Sorry, Runner couldn't help myself.

starbucks? lol

These are the guys I'd be trying to get:
- Schenn
- Gudas
- DeMelo
- Manson
- Clifton
- Ristolainen
- Ceci

We don't need anything flashy. Just some grit/toughness and/or stability on the right side to eat up minutes and not be a liability. I realize these guys are doing those roles with their current teams but maybe they're available, who knows.

agreed toughness is not a flashy player

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

These are the guys I'd be trying to get:
- Schenn
- Gudas
- DeMelo
- Manson
- Clifton
- Ristolainen
- Ceci

We don't need anything flashy. Just some grit/toughness and/or stability on the right side to eat up minutes and not be a liability. I realize these guys are doing those roles with their current teams but maybe they're available, who knows.

Ceci and Ristolainen.... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

 

[Garry Valk]

These are the guys I'd be trying to get:
- Schenn
- Gudas
- DeMelo
- Manson
- Clifton
- Ristolainen
- Ceci

We don't need anything flashy. Just some grit/toughness and/or stability on the right side to eat up minutes and not be a liability. I realize these guys are doing those roles with their current teams but maybe they're available, who knows.

Schenn would be a good, veteran, reliable #4 D who also wouldn’t be too expensive. Would love to see him added. Manson would also be a great addition but likely pricier.

 

[sampollock]

Schenn would be a good, veteran, reliable #4 D who also wouldn’t be too expensive. Would love to see him added. Manson would also be a great addition but likely pricier.

schenn hits hard and lots

 

[hvac412]

So? With all that is said here? We promote him to the 1st line with our best player to help him get

So? With all that is said here? We promote him to the 1st line with our best player to help him get carried? It makes absolutely no sense lmao. Were not competing, were building.

carried? It makes absolutely no sense lmao. Were not competing, were building.ho

how do we expect this coaching staff to build anything without a single precedent in their resume ? once again to all ticket paying fans,come waste your money on sub-par entertainment at FULL price while we(the rookie coaching staff) try and figure it all out .Oh and by the way we dont care about winning right now ,but were trying to be in the mix .they've even got the fans confused.

 

[Egresch]

So? With all that is said here? We promote him to the 1st line with our best player to help him get carried? It makes absolutely no sense lmao. Were not competing, were building.

His value for the team drops significantly if he cannot play center. I would keep testing him at C. Just switch him temporarly with Evans and give him some time to recover at 3C or 4C.

 

[Mrb1p]

His value for the team drops significantly if he cannot play center. I would keep testing him at C. Just switch him temporarly with Evans and give him some time to recover at 3C or 4C.

Exactly. We know he can be a supporting character at W. He's a top 9 winger. What we don't know is if he's a top 6 c, or even a top 9 c. We need to know.

 

[1909]

His value for the team drops significantly if he cannot play center. I would keep testing him at C. Just switch him temporarly with Evans and give him some time to recover at 3C or 4C.

Yeah. He has to play less minutes vs lower lines. Put him with Heineman and Armia to compensate for his d-play weaknesses.