HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Harpo]

Personally, I would trade for Laine and try to sign Perron to a 2 year deal and call it a day. Both would be signed for two years, Perron as a temporary stopgap and Laine as a gamble, hoping that it works out. No long term commitment, as we're not ready yet. Of course, a Dach or Newhook type of trade would also be welcomed, but I can't see any similar target right now.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Dont know if it is realist or possible but Dylan Cozens would be an awesome trade target.

Can't see Buffalo trading him, he's part of the solution there, not part of the problem.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Personally, I would trade for Laine and try to sign Perron to a 2 year deal and call it a day. Both would be signed for two years, Perron as a temporary stopgap and Laine as a gamble, hoping that it works out. No long term commitment, as we're not ready yet. Of course, a Dach or Newhook type of trade would also be welcomed, but I can't see any similar target right now.

People doesn't seem to understand we have 13 forwards already...

 

[Miller Time]

People doesn't seem to understand we have 13 forwards already...

12 + unsigned RFA Ylonen

 

[Naslundforever]

Like the days of Odjick/Perrault/Audette

omg not paid for their look for sure haha… I mean even going back just to Byron, I miss the guy.

 

[Miller Time]

omg not paid for their look for sure haha… I mean even going back just to Byron, I miss the guy.

It'll be interesting to see how KH builds out our bottom 6 once the miscast & expensive Dvorak, Anderson & Gally aren't clogging it up.

 

[Harpo]

People doesn't seem to understand we have 13 forwards already...

"What, Patrick Laine for free? Lemme check. No sorry, we have Michael Pezzetta and Rafael Harvey-Pinard on the roster and we absolutely need them. And no way we're letting Jesse Ylonen go".

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

12 + unsigned RFA Ylonen

ya so no places for any kids to begin with let alone ufas. We need to trade some leftovers before making any moves . That's why alot of people are willing to wait for next season when alot of salary cap is due to be done and our 2 retentions are also gone

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

If that's the case, I'd rather Struble give up that seat and we move him instead.

Although we'd get more value from Xhekaj in a trade, I just don't want to move him. He offers more to this team than Struble, and I like Jayden. The D's I'm trying to move this offseason (if I'm Hughes) are Harris and Kovacevic. I'd want to give Barron a little more runway, he has too good of a toolbox not to be more patient.

D's need time.

They say 300 NHL games of experience to see what you have with D. Our D core is far from established atm. Can’t wait!

Friendly reminder that Rafael Harvey-Pinard was tried on the top-6 at times last season. Rafael f***ing Harvey-Pinard.

I don't think people here realize just how far off we are when they spit at the idea of acquiring guys like Necas, Marner ou Ehlers.

I guess we got accustomed so much to watching shit hockey as a fanbase that we lost touch with reality.

The MB years( as well as the Gauthier years, have lowered our standards. I will say though, the HUGO era is way more inspiring. He’s super shrewd with trades, brought us into the 21st century with analytics and has built a development department. MB was in a 90s time capsule trying to build a team in His image

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

It's not that I have someone specific in mind but let's just say Habs land Lindstrom or demidov at 5. Then at 7/8, they pick up a Iginla/Sennecke, etc. That would finish any need for another top piece. Defence is set. Goaltending is hopefully set with Fowler. They already have 5/6 pieces minimum in the top 6 going forward if you include the 5th pick. They have good depth prospect wise that could help fill out a future bottom 6 in Beck, Roy, xhekaj, etc.

The risk of being like the sharks in 2020 is there but the gamble is that or finishing the acquisition part the rebuild entirely right now

Imo that is not the case. Remove Matheson and Savard…. We have Guhle who is the only proven top four LD and yet is facing injuries….Hutson? tbd. Mailloux- hopefully top four but not top pairing. Reinbacher perhaps top paring RD. The rest is bottom pairing. We would not be at a loss picking another defensive stud.

Johansson is a great skater, and not just North/South.

Much better 2-way player, transition player, and ability to cycle.

Anderson's size & hitting, and the false perception that it adds value, is the only reason we might be able to offload him.


Your assuming his decline wont continue further. Unlike Gally, who at least has some hockey sense, as Anderson's physical strengths decline in his 30's, he won't be an NHLer if he can't skate or hit. One shoulder or knee injury away from that reality happening sooner than later.


It's not Strubble = 3rd. I explained that already.

He's 30, and off 3 straight poor seasons, the last (& healthiest) being the worst.

It's one thing to hope he bounces back, but realistically, he looks headed to a Rene Bourque trajectory.


I agree that Strubble is a very big sweetener... Where I disagree is in the risk of Anderson's value decreasing further. The wealth of youth D assets we have is teetering on the brink of logjam, buffering the risk of moving a Strubble or Harris or Barron.

I hope Anderson proves me wrong and figures out how to be effective in our system... I just don't see it.

The cap space now is not urgent. But freeing up another 5.5M for '25 & '26 summers, as Slaf & Guhle extensions kick in and the team is focused on being a playoff team, will significantly improve the flexibility KH has to add key pieces.

Waiting a year risks Anderson going from cap dump to immovable if injuries or further regression set in.

Agreed. It takes high IQ to play for MSL. Anderson doesn’t have that

 

[The Real Timo]

It'll be interesting to see how KH builds out our bottom 6 once the miscast & expensive Dvorak, Anderson & Gally aren't clogging it up.

They are not. They are TOP 6

 

[Skip Bayless]

Dont know if it is realist or possible but Dylan Cozens would be an awesome trade target.

Hmmm I like that. Since when is Buffalo for sale?

 

[Kimota]

We should change our whole fourth line. Maybe trade for Roy with the Knights. Then you sign Carrier and trade for Olivier. At least we would be more physical.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Imo that is not the case. Remove Matheson and Savard…. We have Guhle who is the only proven top four LD and yet is facing injuries….Hutson? tbd. Mailloux- hopefully top four but not top pairing. Reinbacher perhaps top paring RD. The rest is bottom pairing. We would not be at a loss picking another defensive stud.


Agreed. It takes high IQ to play for MSL. Anderson doesn’t have that

I never said anything about getting rid of Savard. On the contrary, I'd resign him on a 2 year contract next summer even if the Habs end up trading him at the TDL

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I never said anything about getting rid of Savard. On the contrary, I'd resign him on a 2 year contract next summer even if the Habs end up trading him at the TDL

Moving forward I’m afraid we’ll see a sharp decline in his ability to keep up top minutes for a full season

 

[Miller Time]

ya so no places for any kids to begin with let alone ufas. We need to trade some leftovers before making any moves . That's why alot of people are willing to wait for next season when alot of salary cap is due to be done and our 2 retentions are also gone

KH showed last year that the team won't hesitate to send a vet to the AHL if needed...

But yes, any roster players in will likely mean someone out. Don't think that will stop KH from making a move if the player he covers is attainable

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

KH showed last year that the team won't hesitate to send a vet to the AHL if needed...

But yes, any roster players in will likely mean someone out. Don't think that will stop KH from making a move if the player he covers is attainable

I mean i get it but like who do you send? Anderson? Seems unlikely. Ylonen rnh are non factors but still give barely any places

 

[tazsub3]

To be fair, youre seeing what Draisaitl can do on an offensively talented Oilers team with Mcdavid, compared to Suzuki on a rebuilding team with pretty much one line for quite a bit of his tenure. He hasn’t missed a game yet and he’s flirting with a ppg. Not so sure I’d be that quick to give him up in this case. Caulfield. Maybe.

And I add to that , he is a bloody goood captain for a city like mtl.
Imagine one of those news conferences draisaitl gave when edm was losing but to the mtl media …. And I bet you we see a circus

 

[Miller Time]

I mean i get it but like who do you send? Anderson? Seems unlikely. Ylonen rnh are non factors but still give barely any places

I think Dvorak, Anderson & Ylonen are most likely not to be back if the right opportunities arise.

Anderson would probably cost something to offload

 

[The Real Timo]

We should change our whole fourth line. Maybe trade for Roy with the Knights. Then you sign Carrier and trade for Olivier. At least we would be more physical.

Yes, I want 3-4 mean nasty mofo's on the bottom 2 lines. Mean and nasty. Mean and nasty.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

And I add to that , he is a bloody goood captain for a city like mtl.
Imagine one of those news conferences draisaitl gave when edm was losing but to the mtl media …. And I bet you we see a circus

Plus you have to get over his terrible defence as a no. 1 C. It's easier when McDavid is there but not when all the spotlight is on you. Personally I'd take a PPG player who's a top 10 two way C than someone who puts up 100 pts without McDavid that plays bad defence

 

[themilosh]

They say 300 NHL games of experience to see what you have with D. Our D core is far from established atm. Can’t wait!


The MB years( as well as the Gauthier years, have lowered our standards. I will say though, the HUGO era is way more inspiring. He’s super shrewd with trades, brought us into the 21st century with analytics and has built a development department. MB was in a 90s time capsule trying to build a team in His image

Need...mooar...muscle

 

[themilosh]

It's absolutely embarrassing. I guess the thought is if they say it enough, people will change their minds and think it's a good idea

If PLD gets bought out, im offering him a 1yr league min 2-way contract. Take it or leave it

 

[Legend123]

If PLD gets bought out im offering him a 1yr league min 2-way contract. Take it or leave it

2 way

 

[EveryDay]

"What, Patrick Laine for free? Lemme check. No sorry, we have Michael Pezzetta and Rafael Harvey-Pinard on the roster and we absolutely need them. And no way we're letting Jesse Ylonen go".

It's not about not liking Laine, it's choosing better options if we have that possibility on the trade market. Laine is costing 8.7M per season and he can barely stay healthy in the last few seasons in CLB. I would prefer if KH try to target players like Necas, Zegras or even Ehlers ahead of Laine.

Of course, if the only possible deal left on the table is Laine, I would gladly take that chance instead of playing RHP or even Pezzetta.