HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Goalfield13]

If the rumours are true that Zegras and the Ducks mutually want to part ways, I wouldn't give up too much for him, and it makes sense that the rumours also say that Huges is interested but not willing to give up a ton. My best offer would be WPG 2024 1st, COL 2024 2nd, Ylonen and Harris. Four quarters for a dollar. At the very least, they have two young guys that can be inserted into the lineup and two picks for this draft.

 

[EveryDay]

I know some are enamoured with the thought of acquiring Necas, Zegras or some other similar level player in an effort to jumpstart our endless re-build. How many would be willing to offer our 5 OA for such a ‘quick fix’ ?

I know I wouldn’t be.

Of course not, that pick is not available unless a player like Svenchnikov/Brady is the offer.

 

[Canadienna]

If the rumours are true that Zegras and the Ducks mutually want to part ways, I wouldn't give up too much for him, and it makes sense that the rumours also say that Huges is interested but not willing to give up a ton. My best offer would be WPG 2024 1st, COL 2024 2nd, Ylonen and Harris. Four quarters for a dollar. At the very least, they have two young guys that can be inserted into the lineup and two picks for this draft.

I'm not suggesting you're wrong in saying that's all we should give up, but I'd bet a nickel that that offer would be beaten by some other team(s).

 

[Habs Halifax]

If the rumours are true that Zegras and the Ducks mutually want to part ways, I wouldn't give up too much for him, and it makes sense that the rumours also say that Huges is interested but not willing to give up a ton. My best offer would be WPG 2024 1st, COL 2024 2nd, Ylonen and Harris. Four quarters for a dollar. At the very least, they have two young guys that can be inserted into the lineup and two picks for this draft.

Trade 1 but only happens after Trade 2 is approved by the Devils
* Flames 1st
* Jets 1st
* B prospect add or Avs 2nd.
for
* Markstrom

Trade 2:
* Markstrom at 50% retention
* B prospect add potentially
for
10th OA

Draft Iggy 5th. Then see who drops to 10th. Don't like who drops? Trade 10th OA for Zegras.

We don't trade any of our D to make this happen and we walk away with Iggy and Zegras or one of Catton/Eiserman/Sennecke.

 

[EveryDay]

If the rumours are true that Zegras and the Ducks mutually want to part ways, I wouldn't give up too much for him, and it makes sense that the rumours also say that Huges is interested but not willing to give up a ton. My best offer would be WPG 2024 1st, COL 2024 2nd, Ylonen and Harris. Four quarters for a dollar. At the very least, they have two young guys that can be inserted into the lineup and two picks for this draft.

Verbeek seems to like big rough players.

What about Anderson+Struble+Winnipeg 1st

Trade 1 but only happens after Trade 2 is approved by the Devils
* Flames 1st
* Jets 1st
* B prospect add or Avs 2nd.
for
* Markstrom

Trade 2:
* Markstrom at 50% retention
* B prospect add potentially
for
10th OA

Draft Iggy 5th. Then see who drops to 10th. Don't like who drops? Trade 10th OA for Zegras.

So 2x 1st round pick+ a 2nd for Markstrom??? Are you crazy?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I wouldn't either because I think that 5th overall pick is and will be an important piece of that rebuild.

But not sure I share your sentiments that this rebuildnia endless.

We’re 2 years in, hasn't been that long lol

We haven’t won a Stanley Cup in over three decades. A time period that is close to approaching endless.

 

[Goalfield13]

I'm not suggesting you're wrong in saying that's all we should give up, but I'd bet a nickel that that offer would be beaten by some other team(s).

Maybe, but I don't know many teams that could afford him or think they would even sign with them if traded there.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Verbeek seems to like big rough players.

What about Anderson+Struble+Winnipeg 1st


So 2x 1st round pick+ a 2nd for Markstrom??? Are you crazy?

Lower it then. I suspect if a goalie like Markstrom is traded as a pending UFA (TDL), he returns a late 1st and he has two years in term left. You're overlooking the overall approach. The assets involved can be tinkered with

If your offers works, sure. Go on the main boards and propose it? See what the Flames say about that.

 

[Captain Mountain]

We haven’t won a Stanley Cup in over three decades. A time period that is close to approaching endless.

That has nothing to do with rebuilding or really anything beyond personal impatience.

And in a 32 team league, that's basically median wait time.

 

[sampollock]

We haven’t won a Stanley Cup in over three decades. A time period that is close to approaching endless.

Not as bad as a team in ONT

KH has a plan, I like the youth idea.. time is needed

 

[Habs Icing]

You don't have the assets to acquire bud.

Acquire? Who said acquire? I said I wanted to talk about her.

 

[417]

We haven’t won a Stanley Cup in over three decades. A time period that is close to approaching endless.

I don’t know that I'd put the current management team responsible for the failures of the past 30 years worth of regimes, but I get what you mean.

For now, i’ll settle for the current regime turning this team into a consistent playoff team and then go from there.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Not as bad as a team in ONT

KH has a plan, I like the youth idea.. time is needed

For some of us old-timers, time is a luxury that we don’t have.

 

[Habs Icing]

If the rumours are true that Zegras and the Ducks mutually want to part ways, I wouldn't give up too much for him, and it makes sense that the rumours also say that Huges is interested but not willing to give up a ton. My best offer would be WPG 2024 1st, COL 2024 2nd, Ylonen and Harris. Four quarters for a dollar. At the very least, they have two young guys that can be inserted into the lineup and two picks for this draft.

Yeah but is that Canadian quarters for an American dollar?

 

[sampollock]

For some of us old-timers, time is a luxury that we don’t have.

ya, I get that .. young ones need to see the silver beast lifted in MTL

 

[Vachon23]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798414116509642814

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Not as bad as a team in ONT

KH has a plan, I like the youth idea.. time is needed

Reference / comparison to an even more pathetic team provides cold comfort for us who grew up in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s and viewed a year without a Cup win as a national disaster.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798414116509642814

Its wise to always remember the old adage that the best transactions are the ones that you don’t enter into.

 

[26Mats]

Fine, lets do this:

1) Every indication is that its far more likely to be moved for a goalie, and there's no indication that it would be moved for a Dman over a forward.

2) Would you trade 5th OA for Xhekaj and a pick in the low teens/high 20s? I wouldn't and I think you'd have a hard time finding Habs fans, let alone fans of other teams who would want to do that.

3) That's fine, but so are many players. And NJ has already demonstrated that they beleive their window is now, so they're not going to be as fussed about that.

4) I think that's the easiest one, Xhekaj absolutely does not fill an urgent need. NJ's most urgent need is indisputably to upgrade in goal. Their next biggest need is to add size and physicallity at forward (ideally someone that can do work around the net). L. Hughes, Bahl and Siegenthaler all have size and Bahl and Siegenthaler both use it. If New Jersey is adding at D, they're likely going to address the lack of experience/reliability back there.

- disagree with your 1). Often trades aren't what the media are talking about. But again I could care less whether it's more like or not. It's not far fetched that it gets moved for a dman.

2) Fans if the Devils are replying to the rumor of 10th going for Matheson and 26 asking for Xhekaj.

3) Xhekaj may be too young for what New Jersey is looking for. But I still say may be.

4) - You could be right about 4). We'll see how Jersey fares over the next few years....

 

[BergevinBurner]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798414116509642814

Beggars can't be choosers.

If those other teams were interested then they'd be the ones calling Carolina.

 

[Justin11]

But, but..there was a rumour that the Habs were trading for both Zegras and Necas on separate deals

 

[Habs Halifax]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798414116509642814

Canes know they have a problem. Guentzel is waiting till July 1st and Necas is asking for a monster deal. They don't want to loose both but they probably got to wait for Guentzel to decide.

Necas has had good bridge contract years. It's not time to pay on the long term deal and they are looking to flip because they likely don't like his contract demands. This situation does not add up for me. A very high trade price but you don't want to sign him yourself when he is 25 and in his prime?

Teams like the Canucks and Habs have knocked on the door and Canes are asking for too much. Calling other teams who they feel are a match. Good luck with that. Necas is a good young player but he is not better than Newhook. He's just older and touching prime which could be a trap or a very good asset. I can see this going two ways.

 

[Zilo44]

Canes know they have a problem. Guentzel is waiting till July 1st and Necas is asking for a monster deal. They don't want to loose both but they probably got to wait for Guentzel to decide.

Necas has had good bridge contract years. It's not time to pay on the long term deal and they are looking to flip because they likely don't like his contract demands. This situation does not add up for me. A very high trade price but you don't want to sign him yourself when he is 25 and in his prime?

Teams like the Canucks and Habs have knocked on the door and Canes are asking for too much. Calling other teams who they feel are a match. Good luck with that. Necas is a good young player but he is not better than Newhook. He's just older and touching prime which could be a trap or a very good asset. I can see this going two ways.

Not much better than Newhook. I see why you would say that but Newhook has yet to hit 40 pts (although he was pacing for 45+) but Necas has a 70 pts season under his belt…

 

[Habs Halifax]

Beggars can't be choosers.

If those other teams were interested then they'd be the ones calling Carolina.

Exactly how I see this and just said something similar.

Smells fishy to me. Why would you just not sign him yourself? Age 25 and you developed him. I think Necas is really pushing for a contract that is crazy. Stay away from this please.

 

[Captain Mountain]

- disagree with your 1). Often trades aren't what the media are talking about. But again I could care less whether it's more like or not. It's not far fetched that it gets moved for a dman.

2) Fans if the Devils are replying to the rumor of 10th going for Matheson and 26 asking for Xhekaj.

3) Xhekaj may be too young for what New Jersey is looking for. But I still say may be.

4) - You could be right about 4). We'll see how Jersey fares over the next few years....

1) Nah, trades that get media attention regarding players or pieces that are shopped usually get the kind of pieces that are reported, its the specific pieces (or pieces that aren't really covered) that is different.

2) Its not a rumour, its a Mathias Brunet idea that does not consider at all what the Devils have or want. The thread on the main board is Matheson AND Xhekaj AND 26th. And the main response from Devils fans (and other fans) is Matheson is of no interest to NJ and Xhekaj is kind of interesting to some, but goaltending is the bigger concern.

3) Its not even that he's too young, its that Hughes (LD) and Nemec (RD) are 20, Bahl (6'6" 230 lbs. LD) is 23 and Casey (RD) is in the system. Plus Marino and Siegenthaler are 27 and still have term. NJ isn't looking at Xhekaj and thinking that what they need more than anything is a D-man that hasn't even averaged 16 minutes a night. Devil's started rebuilding before Bergevin's "retool", they're pretty well stocked on both youth and potential, they're ready to compete now.