HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[26Mats]

I feel like they will make a trade around the 10th OA and Askarov, goaltending is their priority right now. Funny enough, Nashville could definitely use a Matheson, but I'm not sure if they are going for a rebuild or trying to be a competitive team.

interesting point.

To NJD: Askarov
To MTL: 10th overall
To Nashville: Matheson + 26th? +/or a young dman like Struble or Barron

I feel like Nashville would want a younger piece than Matheson as their center piece for Askarov.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Next season Jack Hughes will be 24, Bratt 26, Hischier 25, Meier 27, Mercer 23. Schmid 24.

At one point you must avoid doing like MB and must go for it. Those guys are entering their prime and the future for the devils is now not in 5 years. A 10th overall pick is far from being guarantee to make it to the NHL d + 1. It might takes 3 to 5 years for this pick to develop in which case it will be too late to help the current core.

It makes a lot of sense for the devils to trade that pick. And they wont get an elite player for it. 10th overall picks are not worth guys like Suzuki or Caufield not even close. NYI traded their 13th overall for Romanov and while i liked Romanov he was not a high quality prospect. The value of Xhekaj must not be too far from Romanov tbh. NJ will want more but they wont get guys like Guhle with that pick that wont happen.

There is no chance that Fitzgerald deals the 10th overall for a player of Xhekaj's caliber and his comments about the pick make that abundantly clear. The guy spent time in the AHL last year for God's sakes.

 

[ReHabs]

Hopefully, but again, I doubt Hughes wants to bring KK on. Not just because it's him and he likely doesn't want to come back, but rather it's a longer useless contract and it's a 12 year problem,.even if minimal. Teams know any little cap helps to facilitate a trade, or signing.

From what people are saying, Montreal wants to really push next offseason. Anderson might be an easier option to sell at a full cap hit as part of a bigger trade with only 2 seasons left.

If I'm Hughes and I know a KK buyout at under 1m is the only thing between me and picking up a serious roster improvement in Necas, someone who can really help the top6 and help end the losing cycle and who has size to boot, I wouldn't hesitate. But I'm me and he's him, and I have a full head of hair and he has the Habs GM job. So who's to say who has the better life? Sorry, what were we talking about?

 

[26Mats]

Why are people talking about Wifi and the 10th? Why in the world would NJ do that? That's absurd.

Devils fans themselves are talking about it.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Devils fans themselves are talking about it.

Saying what? Nor do they make trades?

 

[26Mats]

There is no chance that Fitzgerald deals the 10th overall for a player of Xhekaj's caliber and his comments about the pick make that abundantly clear. The guy spent time in the AHL last year for God's sakes.

Askarov spent the whole year in the AHL, and he'd be a candidate to trade for 10th overall. A young player spending time in the A is a normal part of the development process.

Saying what? Nor do they make trades?

Devils fans are talking about wanting Xhekaj for the 10th overall.

 

[Habs]

Kotkaniemi, his mole, his long stick, can Fu_K off.

 

[LaP]

There is no chance that Fitzgerald deals the 10th overall for a player of Xhekaj's caliber and his comments about the pick make that abundantly clear. The guy spent time in the AHL last year for God's sakes.

I'm not sying he will trade that pick for Xhekaj. What i'm saying is he wont get much more than that. He wont get the potential of the pick for the pick. Nobody will trade him a player in his prime that represent what that pick might become eventually at some point. He will get either old players past their prime or near to be past their prime or a bunch of lesser prospects than the one the pick will return. There's no point trading a Guhle for a 10th overall pick. There's a reason top 10 picks are rarely traded.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Askarov spent the whole year in the AHL, and he'd be a candidate to trade for 10th overall. A young player spending time in the A is a normal part of the development process.

This is a joke.

Good luck convincing a GM to give up the 10th overall for a guy who got demoted last season.

Please go read Fitzgerald's comments about trading the pick and lose the delusion.

 

[waitin425]

The Habs don't need a quality, cost controlled 3C?

Sure we do. But it is easier to find than a top 6 RW.

 

[Justin11]

Habs will make deals before or on draft day but it won't be the ones that are rumored.

Usually goes that way.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I'm not sying he will trade that pick for Xhekaj. What i'm saying is he wont get much more than that. He wont get the potential of the pick for the pick. Nobody will trade him a player in his prime that represent what that pick might become eventually at some point. He will get either old player past their prime or near to be past their prime or a bunch of lesser prospect that the one the pick will return.

If the best NJ can do for the pick is Xhekaj (which there is no way that's actually the case) they're better off picking a player. I can't wait to revisit this thread if the pick does end up being traded.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I strongly disagree. During most of his time here beyond playoffs and rookie season, Lehk was unappreciated and underrated. Most considered him a 3rd liner and hindered the development of KK or was a waste in top 6 role. It was really before he was dealt that people on this board gave him credit.

I've been a MASSIVE Lehkonen booster and I agree that he was underrated and unappreciated, but the sentiment was shifting well before he was traded. Some were loudly critical of him, but by the end people were realizing how good he was.

Its really only people who look at HockeyDB, Moar Big or who fall in small sample traps that underrated him.

 

[sampollock]

Askarov spent the whole year in the AHL, and he'd be a candidate to trade for 10th overall. A young player spending time in the A is a normal part of the development process.


Devils fans are talking about wanting Xhekaj for the 10th overall.

I wanted the habs to trade for Askarov last year.

 

[LaP]

This is a joke.

Good luck convincing a GM to give up the 10th overall for a guy who got demoted last season.

Please go read Fitzgerald's comments about trading the pick and lose the delusion.

I'm not saying they'll trade the pick btw. I'm 99% sure they wont. All i'm saying is the offers they'll get will be Romanov like offer and if they don't want to do that then they wont do that. I doubt they get what they want unless a team wants to do a scorched earth rebuild like Chicago did and under sell their assets to draft Hagens.

 

[26Mats]

I wanted the habs to trade for Askarov last year.

A deal for Askarov involving Matheson would be sweet.

This is a joke.

Good luck convincing a GM to give up the 10th overall for a guy who got demoted last season.

Please go read Fitzgerald's comments about trading the pick and lose the delusion.

You may be right. But you may be wrong. It is no joke. Xhekaj and the 26th for 10th I don't think is far fetched.

 

[Habs Icing]

Owen Beck, after a stellar end to his junior career is a sell high candidate. I like the player. A swiss-army knife kind of guy. But.....stuck as 3rd line centre at most for a long time in Montreal. Great trade bait for Necas.

Winnipeg 1st + Beck + Harris for Martin Necas.

WTF, did you guys go to the Rejean "Peanut" Houle School of Managing Assets?

 

[Deus ex machina]

There is no chance that Fitzgerald deals the 10th overall for a player of Xhekaj's caliber and his comments about the pick make that abundantly clear. The guy spent time in the AHL last year for God's sakes.

And he was dominant in the AHL. It was more a humility thing for him. Doesn't mean he's a bad player.

What do you think he's worth exactly, a late first?

 

[Captain Mountain]

A deal for Askarov involving Matheson would be sweet.


You may be right. But you may be wrong. It is no joke. Xhekaj and the 26th for 10th I don't think is far fetched.

I do. New Jersey want's goaltending. That trade doesn't give them that.

 

[ReHabs]

WTF, did you guys go to the Rejean "Peanut" Houle School of Managing Assets?

Giving away an irrelevant dman, a middle 6 prospect, and a late 1st to add the 2nd best forward on our roster is bad asset management in your opinion?

 

[Kosseca]

WTF, did you guys go to the Rejean "Peanut" Houle School of Managing Assets?

If anything, that offer is not enough for Carolina. Not only does it only offer "futures" which they are not looking for, it could easily be beaten by another team.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

On a side note on the cheaper side of things for top 9 help, I wonder what cost would be for Berggren or Dorofeyev.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

And he was dominant in the AHL. It was more a humility thing for him. Doesn't mean he's a bad player.

What do you think he's worth exactly, a late first?

Maaaaaaaybe. And he was demoted because the club didn't feel like he was playing well enough to stay up. I like Xhekaj but get real. He's not worth a top-10 pick and at his age, draft pedigree still matters. He was signed off the street.

Off the top of my head the last picks in the top 10 traded were for guys like DeBrincat. Ottawa's Chychrun returned the 12th overall and a couple of seconds. Then there's guys like Jordan Staal Jeff Carter. These guys are in a different stratosphere than Xhekaj. What are we doing here?

 

[417]

There is no chance that Fitzgerald deals the 10th overall for a player of Xhekaj's caliber and his comments about the pick make that abundantly clear. The guy spent time in the AHL last year for God's sakes.\

The hype with Arber Xhekaj from a lot of Habs fans, does not measure up to the player so far or his accomplishments so far.

And this isn't even hate because I like Xhekaj as a player quite a bit.

 

[Habs Icing]

Giving away an irrelevant dman, a middle 6 prospect, and a late 1st to add the 2nd best forward on our roster is bad asset management in your opinion?

That's exactly the thinking that occurred in Houle's head. Harris may be irrelevant to you because we're stacked on the left side of our defence but Harris is not irrelevant to half the teams in the league. His value is noted. Beck will be an excellent 3rd line centermen - probably one of the best. Contending teams don't throw away prospects like Beck into ridiculous trades like this one. That's how Houle destroyed this team for years. As for the late first I've been a big advocate of trading up to draft one of the other prime forwards. Packaging those assets the way it was done does not give us a return of equal value.