HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Miller Time]

you don't watch games don't you ??

Not all who watch understand what they are watching apparently

 

[Bottle Rocket]

They have over $7 million in cap space. I don’t think they’ll need to move anyone to sign Kane.

But they desire Armia so much in exchange.

 

[Captain Mountain]

So what are we trading for McDavid?

4-6 of their choice of Montreal's best players/trade assets.

 

[Deus ex machina]

What hole exactly? Because of injuries? Teams with 2 goalies would have the same problem.

Teams usually have a goalie in the AHL that can be recalled in case of injuries.
Dobes is a rookie. He shouldn't be number 1 in Laval to begin with. So not the ideal candidate for a recall.

Friedman said this morning that the Habs are trying to solve the 3 goalies problem.
But they must know what is going to happen with Montembeault before doing anything.
They are trying to sign him long term but apparently he wants 4-5 years at an AAV higher than Allen is making according to Mathias Brunet.
If they trade Allen now, they will lose leverage in negotiations.
If they can't sign Montembeault, they will probably trade him, rather than lose him for nothing.

 

[Deus ex machina]

I perhaps missed where Killorn moved to C? But either way, I don't think you'd find much support for an attempt to argue that he has anywhere close to Nylander's value on a UFA contract. Nylander will easily sign for significantly more than Killorn did last summer... That was my point (highlighting that summer UFA value is a factor of supply/demand, & this summer there will be huge demand & very limited supply for what Nylander represents= major contract).

To your last point... Yes and? I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise.

The question is not Nylander's value vs Huberdeau. That's obvious Nylander > Huberdeau (even if hubby is at 8M vs Nylander 10M+

But
Nylander @7x10+ vs
- Hubby @7x8M +
- 3x2nd +
- cond 1st +
- offloading Anderson/Armia/Price

& Now I think you might see how the scales look a bit different.

No idea how desperate the flames will get, and their ownership is notoriously stingy (so retaining may be a non starter), but if they get desperate enough, there's a deal that could make sense for us to choose that risk over the other risky propositions to add a legit top - 6 or top line talent

Hughes may forgo any risk all together and just patiently wait for internal prospects +/or Dach/Newhook type bets to pay off... But if we do go fishing for established top talent, Hubberdeau is at least worth kicking tires on

The Habs are not trying to ''offload'' Anderson.
He doesn't have negative value just because he's in a slump right now.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't accept 3 2nds for him.
If they trade him, it's gonna be for something more significant.
They'll want quality, not quantity.

 

[jrom]

Wonder if the Sabres would add a 2nd to trade Olofsson since they are rumored to sign Kane.

Read rumors that it’s Peyton Krebs they may be looking to move

 

[jrom]

4-6 of their choice of Montreal's best players/trade assets.

Wouldn’t that simply recreate the Oilers current problem here ?

I’m all for giving him whatever salary he wants as an UFA ($12-15M ? done ! ) but if we need to trade Guhle, Dach & Caufield, yes we get the better player but would we really be a significantly better team after ?

Just feels lately that depth is almost as important during the playoffs run, all it takes is a cheap shot on your star and you’re out.

We had a great cup run but the 3 teams we beat were missing one of their top6 C.

 

[Vachon23]

It is bad but if they trade one, they need to fix the hole they are creating at the same time.
Not that easy.

If there's an injury to our goalies, they can't be calling Dobes up.....Laval is also very thin right now.

They can acquired a #3 goalie in the trade, shouldn’t be a problem

 

[eklund the clown]

Peter Pocklington doesn't own the Oilers any longer . Nobody stupid enough to trade McDavid

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Teams usually have a goalie in the AHL that can be recalled in case of injuries.
Dobes is a rookie. He shouldn't be number 1 in Laval to begin with. So not the ideal candidate for a recall.

Friedman said this morning that the Habs are trying to solve the 3 goalies problem.
But they must know what is going to happen with Montembeault before doing anything.
They are trying to sign him long term but apparently he wants 4-5 years at an AAV higher than Allen is making according to Mathias Brunet.
If they trade Allen now, they will lose leverage in negotiations.
If they can't sign Montembeault, they will probably trade him, rather than lose him for nothing.

I wouldn't go more than 2 mil for 2 years. Take it or your gone.

 

[rahad]

The Habs are not trying to ''offload'' Anderson.
He doesn't have negative value just because he's in a slump right now.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't accept 3 2nds for him.
If they trade him, it's gonna be for something more significant.
They'll want quality, not quantity.

LOL.... Kent would be crazy, if he refuse 3 second round pick for Anderson.

 

[Milhouse40]

What hole exactly? Because of injuries? Teams with 2 goalies would have the same problem.

Teams have guys like Kinkaid or guys like Primeau.....we don't have any of that. We have Dobes who's barely ready for the AHL, not even sure he is actually.

We don't need to get a good goalie for that......but we do need one.

 

[morhilane]

Teams have guys like Kinkaid or guys like Primeau.....we don't have any of that. We have Dobes who's barely ready for the AHL, not even sure he is actually.

We don't need to get a good goalie for that......but we do need one.

Habs easily got Hammond two years ago when all the goalies were injured. They just need to have such a trade lined-up or get one back when they trade a goalie.

 

[Destopcorner]

Wouldn’t that simply recreate the Oilers current problem here ?

I’m all for giving him whatever salary he wants as an UFA ($12-15M ? done ! ) but if we need to trade Guhle, Dach & Caufield, yes we get the better player but would we really be a significantly better team after ?

Just feels lately that depth is almost as important during the playoffs run, all it takes is a cheap shot on your star and you’re out.

We had a great cup run but the 3 teams we beat were missing one of their top6 C.

I get what you're saying but we are talking Mcdavid here... best player ever.

Guhle and Dach is a solid base, 2 proven nhl ready top prospects. Very enticing for EDM... And very replacable on habs end. Add a first rounder or 2 or another D prospect and the offer is as good as it gets.

We still have quality everywhere, our pipline is already deep and we have the assets for a great pitch if it ever gets there....

 

[DAChampion]

If Edmonton loses McDavid they're going into a long rebuild.

I'd offer the next seven years of 1st rounders.

 

[Skip Bayless]

If Edmonton loses McDavid they're going into a long rebuild.

I'd offer the next seven years of 1st rounders.

I really believe he's done with Edmonton.

He will get traded to our division. Watch Buffalo.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I get what you're saying but we are talking Mcdavid here... best player ever.

Guhle and Dach is a solid base, 2 proven nhl ready top prospects. Very enticing for EDM... And very replacable on habs end. Add a first rounder or 2 or another D prospect and the offer is as good as it gets.

We still have quality everywhere, our pipline is already deep and we have the assets for a great pitch if it ever gets there....

Guhle is not easily replaceable but if he gets hurt again it might be worth moving him.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

I really believe he's done with Edmonton.

He will get traded to our division. Watch Buffalo.

If he or Draisaitl are dealt, I agree Buffalo makes a lot of sense

 

[Skip Bayless]

If he or Draisaitl are dealt, I agree Buffalo makes a lot of sense

It is the way forward for Edmonton. If Holland is smart, Edmonton can easily retool and become a better all around team after that trade.

RNH-Draisaitl-Kane
Benson-Cozens-Hyman

Still plenty of cash to upgrade G or D

 

[JuJu Mobb]

Some of you are on heavy drugs with those ridiculous McDavid trade proposals.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Personally, I’d give the Oilers the 1973 cup for McDavid.

 

[Scriptor]

Some of you are on heavy drugs with those ridiculous McDavid trade proposals.

Some of them are on heavy drugs even without those ridiculous McDavid proposals.

 

[HuGort]

Time for a new thread. It's no longer off-season.

Savard & Allen are must trades at TDL.

I doubt he's trading Allen, just gave him a big contract. Monahan and Savard my bets to be moved. Pearson too, he's taking a roster spot away from a young forward. Who can use the ice time. We can judge him better

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Some of you are on heavy drugs with those ridiculous McDavid trade proposals.

true since he will go ufa

 

[morhilane]

I doubt he's trading Allen, just gave him a big contract. Monahan and Savard my bets to be moved. Pearson too, he's taking a roster spot away from a young forward. Who can use the ice time. We can judge him better

The Habs don't want to stay with 3 goalies for much longer, once they sign Monty, Allen is gone. Or they trade Monty because he's asking too much.

It's going to be before the deadline.