HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[Kimota]

Petry for Mantha Boom

 

[Ezpz]

Petry for Mantha Boom

That would be awful. Mantha has worse value than Hoffman.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Or it proves you and most of the fans have no clue about the value of players on the market. I don't believe in miracle when it's about hockey trade. They gave what they needed to give to get what they wanted to get.

... or more likely, the Habs just happened to fall into the perfect circumstance to get rid of a low value asset. The Sharks probably would have preferred getting Petry as the salary cap the Pens had to send back for Karlsson. However, Petry would not agree to waive his NTC for San Jose. Enter Montreal, who gets to dump Hoffman on SJ as part of the price for taking Petry. The Sharks knew they would have to take some salary back, so probably just shrugged and agreed to take Hoffman as that dump.

 

[DAChampion]

... or more likely, the Habs just happened to fall into the perfect circumstance to get rid of a low value asset. The Sharks probably would have preferred getting Petry as the salary cap the Pens had to send back for Karlsson. However, Petry would not agree to waive his NTC for San Jose. Enter Montreal, who gets to dump Hoffman on SJ as part of the price for taking Petry. The Sharks knew they would have to take some salary back, so probably just shrugged and agreed to take Hoffman as that dump.

Hoffman is better for San Jose's tank.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

... or more likely, the Habs just happened to fall into the perfect circumstance to get rid of a low value asset. The Sharks probably would have preferred getting Petry as the salary cap the Pens had to send back for Karlsson. However, Petry would not agree to waive his NTC for San Jose. Enter Montreal, who gets to dump Hoffman on SJ as part of the price for taking Petry. The Sharks knew they would have to take some salary back, so probably just shrugged and agreed to take Hoffman as that dump.

This is the correct answer, how this not obvious to everyone is just mind boggling.

 

[ML16]

I wouldnt mind acquiring Soup, as long as they pay the price… They need a 3C? I wouldnt mind including Evans as well. Add Armia, DeSmith from us and Foegele from them. They get short term and long term cap space, we get rid of some of our extra forwards (Foegele could easily be send in the AHL).

Oh, and they better include Holloway, a first and a second as an extra.

For discussion sake, let’s entertain the idea of the Habs accepting to take on Campbell (5M x 4 years).

The Habs can easily send about 5M worth of complementary players to Edmonton, but no one expendable is signed beyond two years - besides maybe Gallagher, but he’s not going anywhere for the time being.

In other words, the first 2 years wouldn’t necessarily be a problem provided a « reasonable » incentive from Edmonton: Armia + DeSmith amounts to 5.2M for instance (7.2M for Armia+Allen / 6.25M for Dvorak+DeSmith, etc.). Such deal would open up a forward spot in Montreal; Campbell simply reports to Laval.

However, the last two years would be brutal cap-wise, insofar as it coincides with the crucial 2025-2026 and 2026-2027 seasons.

For this reason, the « reasonable » incentive required for Montreal to take on Campbell without retention would need to be nothing short of exorbitant: something like two first round picks and Xavier Bourgault.

Habs could graciously add Kovacevic for another 3rd round pick since they need to make some room on RHD, especially if Petry ends up finding only a taker only around TDL.

 

[Belial]

For discussion sake, let’s entertain the idea of the Habs accepting to take on Campbell (5M x 4 years).

The Habs can easily send about 5M worth of complementary players to Edmonton, but no one expendable is signed beyond two years - besides maybe Gallagher, but he’s not going anywhere for the time being.

In other words, the first 2 years wouldn’t necessarily be a problem provided a « reasonable » incentive from Edmonton: Armia + DeSmith amounts to 5.2M for instance (7.2M for Armia+Allen / 6.25M for Dvorak+DeSmith, etc.). Such deal would open up a forward spot in Montreal; Campbell simply reports to Laval.

However, the last two years would be brutal cap-wise, insofar as it coincides with the crucial 2025-2026 and 2026-2027 seasons.

For this reason, the « reasonable » incentive required for Montreal to take on Campbell without retention would need to be nothing short of exorbitant: something like two first round picks and Xavier Bourgault.

Habs could graciously add Kovacevic for another 3rd round pick since they need to make some room on RHD, especially if Petry ends up finding only a taker only around TDL.

Edmonton is stuck with that contract, no one will take on that albatross.

They better hope Soup has a bounce-back season or something.

 

[Ranger12]

Petry for Mantha Boom

Jesus, Mantha has negative value. That's basically paying Washington to take Petry off their hands.

 

[Belial]

Jesus, Mantha has negative value. That's basically paying Washington to take Petry off their hands.

It's not gonna happen. Just the local flavor trade as usual.

 

[LaP]

The more i think about it the more i think Petry would be such a good fit for Edmonton. They have only two RHD and they are Ceci and Desharnais. They are definitely missing a top 4 dman sorry but Kulak ain't one. They also have the cap space. Sadly Petry would surely reject a trade to Edmonton.

 

[sampollock]

That would be awful. Mantha has worse value than Hoffman.

Not sure why the hype on Mantha

 

[LaP]

Petry for Mantha Boom

There's no way KH does that. Caps would need to pay us to get Mantha.

Mantha+2025 1st (top 10 protected) for Petry and KH listen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Mantha isn't as bad as people say. He's just hurt.

I'd take him over Hoffman 10 times out of 10.

Now, I wouldn't take him for free, but if it's Petry, no retention by the Habs for Mantha, done.

Mantha ends after this season.

Petry 50% retained by the Habs for him, then the caps add.


My guesses are.

DeSmith to Buffalo.

Dvorak to Boston

Petry to a team, cause I'm not sure.

 

[morhilane]

The more i think about it the more i think Petry would be such a good fit for Edmonton. They have only two RHD and they are Ceci and Desharnais. They are definitely missing a top 4 dman sorry but Kulak ain't one. They also have the cap space. Sadly Petry would surely reject a trade to Edmonton.

I really doubt Petry wants to go back to Edmonton. It was probably the first destination on his no trade list.

 

[salbutera]

Mantha isn't as bad as people say. He's just hurt.

I'd take him over Hoffman 10 times out of 10.

Now, I wouldn't take him for free, but if it's Petry, no retention by the Habs for Mantha, done.

Mantha ends after this season.

Petry 50% retained by the Habs for him, then the caps add.


My guesses are.

DeSmith to Buffalo.

Dvorak to Boston

Petry to a team, cause I'm not sure.

Will always remember this quote from Wings Jim Devellano:

"Very, very, very disappointing," Devellano told Fox Sports' Keith Gave. "And I say that with a lot of sadness. Coming out of junior, we had such high hopes for him. It takes seriousness and dedication to be a professional hockey player…”

 

[Runner77]

Not sure why the hype on Mantha

He’d be a means to an end if it facilitated the trading a turd on a longer contract for him (eg Armia).

 

[moody1122]

Dvorak to Boston

Lol, Boston might be desperate for centers, but not THAT desperate

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Will always remember this quote from Wings Jim Devellano:

Dude did score at a really high rate, definitely not a great player.

Lol, Boston might be desperate for centers, but not THAT desperate

Look, I'm hoping they are.

 

[moody1122]

Look, I'm hoping they are.

Boston's management knows better, and so should you

 

[crazyd74]

Dvorak to Boston

I'd entertain a trade with Chicago. Apart from Bedard, nothing else is really worthy down the middle. Johnson, Foligno, Guttman, Entwistle....quite meager and also can be used better on the wings.

DVO is already known by the coach. Could be a very serviceable solution in their build.

Chicago has the cap space and a TON of picks in the next 3 drafts.

Chicago could also benefit from acquiring either of Allen or DeSmith to assist Mrazek.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Boston's management knows better, and so should you

Yeah, but they wouldn't be paying much and I'm honestly assuming he's dealt at 50% retained.

I'd entertain a trade with Chicago. Apart from Bedard, nothing else is really worthy down the middle. Johnson, Foligno, Guttman, Entwistle....quite meager and also can be used better on the wings.

DVO is already known by the coach. Could be a very serviceable solution in their build.

Chicago has the cap space and a TON of picks in the next 3 drafts.

Chicago could also benefit from acquiring either of Allen or DeSmith to assist Mrazek.

Mrazek will get hurt at some point, so if it's before the Habs move out, or lose a goalie, could be advantageous, though they might look at Primeau. See what he becomes on a team that sucks ass. If he's good, they can deal him. If he sucks, it just ensures a top 3 pick.

 

[moody1122]

Chicago could also benefit from acquiring either of Allen or DeSmith to assist Mrazek.

they don't want anybody to assist him,

he is perfect for what they want, a bottom 5 finish

 

[HuGort]

Us take on Campbell contract you mean? That's major issue. I would rather have Gallagher than Campbell

 

[Sterling Archer]

Us take on Campbell contract you mean? That's major issue. I would rather have Gallagher than Campbell

Not what “I” mean or what the tweet said.

 

[Miller Time]

Petry for Mantha Boom

If the Caps add a 1st, sure....

We could even retain a bit.

Petry @ 3.7M for Mantha, Caps '25 1st

Caps have 3x2nd in '25, softening the loss of the 1st.

Habs bet on '24-'25 caps being worse off than '23-'24 version with outside shot at 1st being a high lottery pick.
Play Mantha with CC/Suzuki & on PP1, hopefully he has a good early stretch and we can flip him for more assets early in the season