HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #84: Off-Season edition

[ML16]

The why is the urgency to free up cap space to reload/improve right away. Ovie has 3 seasons left on his deal and at his age, playoffs next year will be the expectation...

I think it's clear the Caps will be aggressive this summer & moving Mantha will likely be a priority.

If they can do it without taking any contract back, I'm sure they would... But how many teams will without demanding a 1st or 2nd, or sending some other cap dump their way? They'll need to keep those assets if they want to make actual roster upgrades.

Armia, for his warts, is a better alternative to most 4th line options and can play decent 3rd line role. He's maybe 1.4M overpaid for what he brings but that amount will be less of a factor as the cap rises the following year...

For next season, Armia + 2.3M$ in cap space > Mantha @ 5.75M cap hit for a team in that kind of situation, imo

Trading Armia for a higher AAV / shorter term player would indeed be the optimal (and likely only?) way to shed his contract this summer without retaining salary and/or adding a significant incentive.

In that regard, Armia for Mantha as the main assets exchanged in a trade like you suggest could be a worthy gamble for both sides in my opinion; the Habs could of course afford to sweeten the deal with a mid-round pick or B prospect - nothing major.

At worst, the Habs still gain +3.4M cap flexibility 2024 onwards, when it will start to really matter.

In any event, with about only 20M AAV devoted to 8 defensemen and 2 goalies next season, the Habs can definitely afford to pull the trigger on 1-2 « Monahan contracts » on forwards. But I guess it will depend if they can first shed Armia and/or Hoffman from the roster to make room for such trades.

 

[Runner77]

lol... i think the general consensus of both fan bases is that Mantha is also a cap dump... that's kinda the point

I did get that but Armia’s longer contract was the bigger detriment in my estimation.

Can’t disagree that in the grand scheme, they’re both turds.

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You used to be more fun when you didn’t issue Wows everywhere. That’s @Artpeur’s thing.

 

[HuGo Sham]

one thing is certain; Habs are moving some defencemen this summer - Edmundson for sure, and maybe a younger guy as part of a larger deal to bring in a forward

 

[Miller Time]

I did get that but Armia’s longer contract was the bigger detriment in my estimation.

Can’t disagree that in the grand scheme, they’re both turds.


You used to be more fun when you didn’t issue Wows everywhere. That’s @Artpeur’s thing.

Turds indeed lol

 

[Habs]

I did get that but Armia’s longer contract was the bigger detriment in my estimation.

Can’t disagree that in the grand scheme, they’re both turds.


You used to be more fun when you didn’t issue Wows everywhere. That’s @Artpeur’s thing.

Mods! Bullying! Ban him please for final two games

 

[FF de Mars]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

No because the Habs contention window won't open before 3/4 years so they're just gonna be stuck with the worst years during contention period

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

Easy pass.

Gallagher is more likely to be LTIRetired than it is for Huberdeau to be worth that contract.

 

[sampollock]

now that the pick from fla is lower, I bet Kent uses that pick this year to do something.
what I mean is that pick will be in play

 

[WeThreeKings]

now that the pick from fla is lower, I bet Kent uses that pick this year to do something.
what I mean is that pick will be in play

Pretty
Likely that he
Does

 

[DAChampion]

Pretty
Likely that he
Does

Are
You
Sure
About
That?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Pretty
Likely that he
Does

Are
You
Sure
About
That?

Hope that helps

 

[Andrewcoursol]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

no

 

[LaP]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

Nope not touching that Huberdeau's contract with a 2000 feet pole.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

Let's work on ridding ourselves of bad contracts, not adding worse ones with more cap and longer terms.

 

[TomKosto]

I would not touch that contract, but I don't think Calgary would do that move either... They just traded for him, they will try to make him bounce back. Suter is as good as gone. I can't see them trading Huberdeau for so low just one year after acquiring him

 

[HuGo Sham]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

no way no how never

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

No interest in Huberdeau. Any large long term contracts will be for players that should have value until the end of the contract, if they stay healthy. Gallagher's contract will be over a year or 2 into the Habs contention window. Huberdeau's could be an albatross through the biggest part of the window.

 

[Habfan10]

Would you trade Gallagher for Huberdeau? Fat for fat. Gallagher's contract is shorter and less expensive but Huberdeau is a better player and he might rebound.

No way Calgary even listens to that trade.

 

[Destopcorner]

Could really see Washinton showing interest for Gurianov. They love russians and he'd be a good scoring threat addition if they can trade away Mantha.

Now if Wilson if really available, i'd make a good pitch for him. Having the alpha male and Sheriff togheter on this team would add 3 inch to everyone and help X manage his fists. Wilson is a physical freak and good hockey player, defensively responsible, solid playmaker...worth every dime of his contract imo

I would entertain something around Anderson Gurianov for Wilson Mantha

Would you?

 

[salbutera]

I would not touch that contract, but I don't think Calgary would do that move either... They just traded for him, they will try to make him bounce back. Suter is as good as gone. I can't see them trading Huberdeau for so low just one year after acquiring him

Based on what?

Per Gord Miller, it was Cgy owner who brought Sutter in as coach & extended him, with no involvement of the GM. If anything Sutter could add GM duties in addition to coach w Treliving’s contract expiring

 

[The Great Weal]

I think Huberdeau bounces back to a PPG player. That being said I wouldn't take the risk on the chance he doesn't.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Could really see Washinton showing interest for Gurianov. They love russians and he'd be a good scoring threat addition if they can trade away Mantha.

Now if Wilson if really available, i'd make a good pitch for him. Having the alpha male and Sheriff togheter on this team would add 3 inch to everyone and help X manage his fists. Wilson is a physical freak and good hockey player, defensively responsible, solid playmaker...worth every dime of his contract imo

I would entertain something around Anderson Gurianov for Wilson Mantha

Would you?

Absolutely not.

Wilson just missed a massive amount of time this year and that type of player is only going to rapidly lose value as the wear and tear continues.

The Habs should not be adding people close or over 30 with dollars and term.

 

[waitin425]

I was in the Hubs camp last year. I would have liked him. His contract starts this year. The year after scoring 55 points. FIFTY-FIVE points. 8 x 10.5 million. He will be 30 when the puck drops on that contract. Hell to the NO. That will be talked about for many years to come as the worst contract of all time.

 

[Tuggy]

Huberdeau and Wilson?

Have you guys learned nothing??