HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #84: Off-Season edition

[Tuggy]

Interesting. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s Pacioretty. All his enemies have left the organization and he was seen have a long talk with MSL in the stands when Habs were in Raleigh.
No thx though

Yeah, I'm not super interested in bring Max back.

Unless he agreed to a very cheap contract (doubtful). Even then...

 

[Adam Michaels]

Noah Juulsen!

- @Adam Michaels

Jewelsen!!

And not Jewelsen as in Jew, but Jewel.

Have to clarify these things these days.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah, I'm not super interested in bring Max back.

Unless he agreed to a very cheap contract (doubtful). Even then...

One year deal with the agreed intention of flipping him to a contender at 50% at the 2024 deadline works for me.

 

[BaseballCoach]

One year deal with the agreed intention of flipping him to a contender at 50% at the 2024 deadline works for me.

Don't see the purpose.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Don't see the purpose.

You don’t think he’d have value to a contender if he’s healthy next year?

 

[Scriptor]

Andrew Berkshire dropping a rumour that an ex-Hab would like to return to Montreal. Could it be Pacioretty?

Deslauriers?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Don't see the purpose.

Really? The purpose is he plays a full season and he's worth a lot at the deadline. We do have the cap room where many other teams do not... especially top end contenders. Basically what the Ducks tried with Klingberg last summer bud. Didn't work out too well but that don't mean it won't with Patch.

 

[Scriptor]

Aho means idiot in japanese

Source: my wife

Was she called an idiot by someone who was Japanese?

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Really? The purpose is he plays a full season and he's worth a lot at the deadline. We do have the cap room where many other teams do not... especially top end contenders. Basically what the Ducks tried with Klingberg last summer bud. Didn't work out too well but that don't mean it won't with Patch.

Exactly.

How valuable would a healthy Max be to a team like Edmonton at next years deadline?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Don't see the purpose.

You don't see the purpose of acquiring another high draft pick???

 

[Lockin17]

Jordan Harris for a late first 2023 (#20 - #30) + 2nd 2023 (#52 - #62)

Edmundson for a mid 2nd + 3rd + 5th , all in 2023

Hoffman (50%) for a 3rd 2023

That would sure help out the tank to cut a year and be ready in 2025-2026

Late first : Honzek
2nd : Cataford
2nd : Cameron Allen

then we have
#6 : Smith/Benson
#12 : Heidt/Leonard
#38 : Hrabal/Strbak

Then a shit load of late picks , might have 1 good prospect getting out .

 

[Habs Halifax]

Exactly.

How valuable would a healthy Max be to a team like Edmonton at next years deadline?

Yup. Imagine a line with Patch / Suzuki / Caufield? Or Patch with Dubois and Dach?

Slaf plays AHL with better talent injected in.

Contenders don't have the cap space to sign Patch for $5M+ and it would be similar to what the Ducks tried with Klingberg. We have also heard rumors of the Habs in on Klingberg for the very same reason.

As long as they don't change their plan even if they are in a playoff hunt and the team performs better. Stick with the plan no matter the results on the ice. These are transition years, not contending years.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Yup. Imagine a line with Patch / Suzuki / Caufield? Or Patch with Dubois and Dach?

Slaf plays AHL with better talent injected in.

Contenders don't have the cap space to sign Patch for $5M+ and it would be similar to what the Ducks tried with Klingberg. We have also heard rumors of the Habs in on Klingberg for the very same reason.

As long as they don't change their plan even if they are in a playoff hunt and the team performs better. Stick with the plan no matter the results on the ice. These are transition years, not contending years.

Plus we know Max doesn’t love pressure, coming here in a secondary role with no captaincy he could be a legitimate performer long enough for us to flip him for a first or decent prospect at the deadline.

If he’s open to this, Hughes needs to be in on it.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Andrew Berkshire dropping a rumour that an ex-Hab would like to return to Montreal. Could it be Pacioretty?

I would love it if it was Corey Perry.

We have lots of forwards, but Suzuki/Caufield continued to praise his leadership a year after he was gone. He'd be a great mentor for Slaf and could help him be more productive offensively around the net through using his size.

 

[DiglettDangles]

I don't believe Pacioretty wanting to come back to Montreal is coherent with his unprompted dunks on the city/franchise in the last 4 years.
He whined to whoever entertained him how the pressure was unhealthy and so on.

If he's seen the light and HuGo wololo'd him into a 1-yr, bonus-oriented cheap deal as was discussed for Monahan, I feel like his scoring acumen might fit really well with our numerous pass-first youngsters + take some heat away from Caufield. If healthy and if the Habs are competing, wouldn't you rather have Patch on the top lines than Mike Hoffman?

If you're still mad, you can also hire Therrien as a special consultant.
Job description: communication & personal liaison.

 

[BaseballCoach]

You don’t think he’d have value to a contender if he’s healthy next year?

Not unless his salary goes way down first. I was thinking at the current salary there is no way we should do it.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Not unless his salary goes way down first. I was thinking at the current salary there is no way we should do it.

If someone is stupid enough to offer much more than a 1 mil 1year contract (unless it is bonus laden) to glass bodies like Pacioretty or Monahan they can have them.

 

[26Mats]

I don't believe Pacioretty wanting to come back to Montreal is coherent with his unprompted dunks on the city/franchise in the last 4 years.
He whined to whoever entertained him how the pressure was unhealthy and so on.

If he's seen the light and HuGo wololo'd him into a 1-yr, bonus-oriented cheap deal as was discussed for Monahan, I feel like his scoring acumen might fit really well with our numerous pass-first youngsters + take some heat away from Caufield. If healthy and if the Habs are competing, wouldn't you rather have Patch on the top lines than Mike Hoffman?

If you're still mad, you can also hire Therrien as a special consultant.
Job description: communication & personal liaison.

I think Patch would fit really well with Suzuki and Caufield or Dach..

I think he didn't like getting booed, but both he and the fans would be happy with a reunion. But I expect him to sign elsewhere.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Pacioretty has torn his Achilles tendon twice in six months. Doesn't seem like the "if healthy" part can be counted on at all if the intent would be to flip him at the TDL.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Yeah, I'm not super interested in bring Max back.

Unless he agreed to a very cheap contract (doubtful). Even then...

Because of his injury history now, we can make his contract bonus laden, so base salary of $1m. $1m if he plays 30 games. Another $1m at 60 games. $3m if he scores 25+ goals. Ditto Monahan.

No team is signing Monahan to a guaranteed contract. It's base plus games played & performance bonuses.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not unless his salary goes way down first. I was thinking at the current salary there is no way we should do it.

What does unused cap space have to do with it? It's a one year deal. Why do you think Hughes was trying to do what the Ducks tried with Klingberg?

I'm surprised you don't see the point.

Unused cap space = unused cap space. Doesn't return anything.
vs
Used cap space for 1 year and a possible asset we can flip for a 1st rounder.

 

[Milhouse40]

Are we talking about bringing Pacioretty back?

Slafkovsky for Dubois

This is an attempt at changing the conversation

 

[JoelWarlord]

I don't believe Pacioretty wanting to come back to Montreal is coherent with his unprompted dunks on the city/franchise in the last 4 years.
He whined to whoever entertained him how the pressure was unhealthy and so on.

I'd agree but there's a part of me that still thinks it's plausible. He's 34 years old now and is fully aware he would be coming back as a secondary vet rather than as a core player and our captain. I don't think it'll happen but stranger things have happened in the NHL than a 29-year-old being upset about the pressure on him in a losing season but mellowing out a few years later.

I think there might also be a realization from him that things can be shitty in different ways in other markets too. At the end of his tenure in Montreal I'm sure he felt unwanted by the team and fanbase and had only ever known Montreal as an NHL market. Then Vegas rolls out the red carpet for you and makes you feel wanted, and you have huge success as a key part of their top line with shiny new toys like Stone and Eichel after a career playing with Desharnais and Danault.

In that context I get why he'd be more negative about his time in Montreal, but then 5 years later after he's been unceremoniously shipped out as a cap dump and hardly got to play in Carolina, maybe it's one of those things where he realized everywhere has its own pros and cons and the issues with Montreal wouldn't be so bad anymore now that he'd just be one of 12 forwards and not the captain.

 

[Sterling Archer]

If healthy, I’d totally bring back Patches on a short term, bonus ladden contract. Better than Drouin, Hoffman etc. and he’d be a great complementary player for Dach, Slaf Zuki, Caufield etc.

 

[The Great Weal]

With how he left on bad terms I doubt it’s him, and with his injury history we should have no real interest anyways (unless we get Bedard, PLD, and a top pair dman). I wouldn’t be opposed to Eller, especially if it means Dvorak can gtfo.