HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #81

[CHfan1]

Habs need full court press for top 3-5 pick. Not the time to strengthen team.

Imo, the Habs top priority this season is to develop the future core and grow their game, whether it’s in Montreal, Laval, or elsewhere. That includes Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle, Harris, Barron, Beck, Mesar, and Primeau. If those players take a big step forward it bodes well for the Habs future success. Obviously getting an elite player high in the draft helps (hopefully the Habs have more lottery luck), but if the Habs don’t do well this season because those players’ games stagnate an elite player isn’t going to suddenly turn this franchise around.

In saying that I do think the Habs roster is bottom 2 in the Eastern Conference as it currently stands.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Imo, the Habs top priority this season is to develop the future core and grow their game, whether it’s in Montreal, Laval, or elsewhere. That includes Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle, Harris, Barron, Beck, Mesar, and Primeau. If those players take a big step forward it bodes well for the Habs future success. Obviously getting an elite player high in the draft helps (hopefully the Habs have more lottery luck), but if the Habs don’t do well this season because those players’ games stagnate an elite player isn’t going to suddenly turn this franchise around.

In saying that I do think the Habs roster is bottom 2 in the Eastern Conference as it currently stands.

Quoted for truth. from 1 CH fan who gets it.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Imo, the Habs top priority this season is to develop the future core and grow their game, whether it’s in Montreal, Laval, or elsewhere. That includes Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Guhle, Harris, Barron, Beck, Mesar, and Primeau. If those players take a big step forward it bodes well for the Habs future success. Obviously getting an elite player high in the draft helps (hopefully the Habs have more lottery luck), but if the Habs don’t do well this season because those players’ games stagnate an elite player isn’t going to suddenly turn this franchise around.

In saying that I do think the Habs roster is bottom 2 in the Eastern Conference as it currently stands.

Well, they are top 3 in something, right?

 

[Supersonic]

I hope Matheson continues to impress and that HuGo does cash in on a haul at the TDL for Eddy. A 2023 1st rounder ++ should be the target.

Heading into next season having on the left side Matheson, Guhle, Harris and Jackeye will be exciting to watch (I know it is likely one shifts to RD at some point)

Im not going to hold my breath that we will get anything else of substance from our forward jettisons, but anything we do get, will be found money. We’ll see

 

[Frozenice]

Most of the posters here will hate this idea but I think Eric Karlsson would be a trade we should consider. Gallagher would have to go the other way and the Sharks would have to retain $2 million or so.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Most of the posters here will hate this idea but I think Eric Karlsson would be a trade we should consider. Gallagher would have to go the other way and the Sharks would have to retain $2 million or so.

Why would the sharks want to pay 8.5 M per year for Gallagher?

 

[Frozenice]

Why would the sharks want to pay 8.5 M per year for Gallagher?

I get the feeling Karlsson wants to move on, get a fresh start, he has a NMC, so the Sharks aren’t in the driver’s seat. When you sign a contract like that and things don’t work out , sometimes you take what you can get.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I get the feeling Karlsson wants to move on, get a fresh start, he has a NMC, so the Sharks aren’t in the driver’s seat. When you sign a contract like that and things don’t work out , sometimes you take what you can get.

Karlsson has publicly said that he isn't looking to move on. He's not going to be traded.

I'm not sure Montreal particularly wants to move Gallagher either. Management hasn't even hinted at it and there's good reason to expect Gallagher having a bounceback this season if he can stay healthy. There are also very few players in the NHL that would do more to stop a losing culture being formed.

 

[Frozenice]

Karlsson has publicly said that he isn't looking to move on. He's not going to be traded.

I'm not sure Montreal particularly wants to move Gallagher either. Management hasn't even hinted at it and there's good reason to expect Gallagher having a bounceback this season if he can stay healthy. There are also very few players in the NHL that would do more to stop a losing culture being formed.

Whether you want to stay or not, that is the answer you have to give, ‘I want to be here’. He has hinted previously in the off-season that maybe changes are coming for the Sharks, they have to be coming, so take that for what it’s worth.

I think he understands he’s with the Sharks for this season, so make the most of it. These types of trades take time.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I get the feeling Karlsson wants to move on, get a fresh start, he has a NMC, so the Sharks aren’t in the driver’s seat. When you sign a contract like that and things don’t work out , sometimes you take what you can get.

karlsson and hoffman in the same dressing room. that'll do wonders for locker room chemistry and player development

 

[Frozenice]

karlsson and hoffman in the same dressing room. that'll do wonders for locker room chemistry and player development

Hoffman’s not part of the team going forward, so it’s not something I’d worry about.

 

[Peteux]

Let's say you're HuGo and you have to pick between two players to show to young players how you need to work hard to get in the NHL and stay in the NHL. Would you pick Karlsson, the guy having an NMC and wanting to stay in California, or Gallagher (having an NMC too and hard to trade)?

And to add to that, would Gallagher, who said that he prefer a competitive team than a rebuilding team, waive his NMC for the Sharks?

 

[CHfan1]

Let's say you're HuGo and you have to pick between two players to show to young players how you need to work hard to get in the NHL and stay in the NHL. Would you pick Karlsson, the guy having an NMC and wanting to stay in California, or Gallagher (having an NMC too and hard to trade)?

And to add to that, would Gallagher, who said that he prefer a competitive team than a rebuilding team, waive his NMC for the Sharks?

I don’t think that trade would ever happen, but, as a note, while Gallagher has a NMC he only has a modified no trade clause with only 6 teams on it.

 

[Peteux]

I don’t think that trade would ever happen, but, as a note, while Gallagher has a NMC he only has a modified no trade clause with only 6 teams on it.

As you said, won't happen. I'd add that it's counterproductive for the Habs. I prefer to expose the rookies to Gallagher than to Karlson.

 

[sampollock]

Habs a goalie for the future
At some point Kent will make a move

 

[Frozenice]

As you said, won't happen. I'd add that it's counterproductive for the Habs. I prefer to expose the rookies to Gallagher than to Karlson.

It’s not so much an issue of exposing the players as it’s an issue of up and coming players have a place to step into the team.

If we have Karlsson instead of Gallagher let’s look at how that affects players entering the NHL.

If we decide to keep Caufield and Anderson and Gallagher a young RWinger will be stuck on the fourth line because the other RW positions are filled, which is far from ideal. We need to create openings in the forward position.

With Karlsson on D, he can take the difficult assignments and we’re not overloading the youngsters with assignments they aren’t ready for. Being more or less forced to keep players like Savard and Wideman, means that the ice time they should be getting is icetime that the youngsters should be getting instead.

 

[CHfan1]

It’s not so much an issue of exposing the players as it’s an issue of up and coming players have a place to step into the team.

If we have Karlsson instead of Gallagher let’s look at how that affects players entering the NHL.

If we decide to keep Caufield and Anderson and Gallagher a young RWinger will be stuck on the fourth line because the other RW positions are filled, which is far from ideal. We need to create openings in the forward position.

With Karlsson on D, he can take the difficult assignments and we’re not overloading the youngsters with assignments they aren’t ready for. Being more or less forced to keep players like Savard and Wideman, means that the ice time they should be getting is icetime that the youngsters should be getting instead.

I think that (log jam) at rw will be taken care of by playing Caufield at left wing, where he spent most of his time last season when MSL was coach. The line he spent the most time on last season was:

Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson

 

[Frozenice]

I think that (log jam) at rw will be taken care of by playing Caufield at left wing, where he spent most of his time last season when MSL was coach. The line he spent the most time on last season was:

Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson

Whenever Slaf graduates to the NHL I’m assuming he’ll be on a line with either Caufield or Anderson.

 

[Gravity]

Dvorak will be gonzo soon. Beck is going to steal his spot next year.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Dvorak will be gonzo soon. Beck is going to steal his spot next year.

LOL

 

[BaseballCoach]

It’s not so much an issue of exposing the players as it’s an issue of up and coming players have a place to step into the team.

If we have Karlsson instead of Gallagher let’s look at how that affects players entering the NHL.

If we decide to keep Caufield and Anderson and Gallagher a young RWinger will be stuck on the fourth line because the other RW positions are filled, which is far from ideal. We need to create openings in the forward position.

With Karlsson on D, he can take the difficult assignments and we’re not overloading the youngsters with assignments they aren’t ready for. Being more or less forced to keep players like Savard and Wideman, means that the ice time they should be getting is icetime that the youngsters should be getting instead.

How about we play LWers on the left and RWers on the right.

RW:
Caufield
Anderson/Gallagher
Gallagher/Anderson

LW (interchangeable according to performance)
Dadonov
Hoffman
Drouin

With Slafkovsky or Heineman ready to spell any one who falters.

Monahan can break in easy on the fourth or also serve as LW insurance, or C fill-in if there is an injury.

And please no Karlsson.

 

[Frozenice]

How about we play LWers on the left and RWers on the right.

RW:
Caufield
Anderson/Gallagher
Gallagher/Anderson

LW (interchangeable according to performance)
Dadonov
Hoffman
Drouin

With Slafkovsky or Heineman ready to spell any one who falters.

Monahan can break in easy on the fourth or also serve as LW insurance, or C fill-in if there is an injury.

And please no Karlsson.

I would rephrase your Left Wingers as Left Towners, come Draft Day 2023 they may well all be gone. Dadonov is the only one I realistically see us keeping and that will only be for 1-3 years after this year.

I happen to think Karlsson has 4-5 decent years left in him and with our style of play going forward he’s well suited for us.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I would rephrase your Left Wingers as Left Towners, come Draft Day 2023 they may well all be gone. Dadonov is the only one I realistically see us keeping and that will only be for 1-3 years after this year.

I happen to think Karlsson has 4-5 decent years left in him and with our style of play going forward he’s well suited for us.

OK, so for 2023-24, we would have one of the three plus Slafkovsky and Heineman.

Please no Karlsson.

 

[CHfan1]

How about we play LWers on the left and RWers on the right.

RW:
Caufield
Anderson/Gallagher
Gallagher/Anderson

LW (interchangeable according to performance)
Dadonov
Hoffman
Drouin

With Slafkovsky or Heineman ready to spell any one who falters.

Monahan can break in easy on the fourth or also serve as LW insurance, or C fill-in if there is an injury.

And please no Karlsson.

Caufield had lots of success last season playing on his off-wing with MSL as coach, why not leave him playing there. 17 even strength goals, 25 even strength points in 37 games with the majority of it playing left wing.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Caufield had lots of success last season playing on his off-wing with MSL as coach, why not leave him playing there. 17 even strength goals, 25 even strength points in 37 games with the majority of it playing left wing.

Plenty of players play on their off wing and do better. Dadonov is a lefty RW on the Habs. I’d leave Cole to n the LW where he can snipe.