HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[Runner77]

FWIW, suggestion from a random site for a Habs trade for Lundkvist involves Ylonen.

What they say the Rags are looking for: “… either a pick or a forward, because the Rangers are likely seeking future assets or bottom-6 players, as the Rangers are entering their window of competition.”

Everything You Need to Know About Nils Lundkvist, and Reviewing Mock Trades

Via NHL.com The Rangers are trying to trade Swedish defensive prospect, Nils Lundkvist, ahead of training camp, so let’s see what type of player he is, and what teams could use him. Who is Ni…

thescoringtouch.com

Just for discussion purposes, would you rather see Ylonen go or one of Kidney/ Mysak?

 

[Sterling Archer]

FWIW, suggestion from a random site for a Habs trade for Lundkvist involves Ylonen.

What they say the Rags are looking for: “… either a pick or a forward, because the Rangers are likely seeking future assets or bottom-6 players, as the Rangers are entering their window of competition.”

Everything You Need to Know About Nils Lundkvist, and Reviewing Mock Trades

Via NHL.com The Rangers are trying to trade Swedish defensive prospect, Nils Lundkvist, ahead of training camp, so let’s see what type of player he is, and what teams could use him. Who is Ni…

thescoringtouch.com

Just for discussion purposes, would you rather see Ylonen go or one of Kidney/ Mysak?

This quote makes me question the author’s knowledge of HuGo as it’s the opposite of what they’ve said multiple times and their actions in acquiring older prospects recently.

“However much like the Coyotes, the Canadiens seem eager to add draft picks as opposed to older prospects.”

 

[Runner77]

This quote makes me question the author’s knowledge of HuGo as it’s the opposite of what they’ve said multiple times and their actions in acquiring older prospects recently.

“However much like the Coyotes, the Canadiens seem eager to add draft picks as opposed to older prospects.”

I know, I only lifted the suggestion of Ylonen as a potential trade candidate. The site is clueless about how the Habs operate and are not worth delving into further.

 

[Heffyhoof]

FWIW, suggestion from a random site for a Habs trade for Lundkvist involves Ylonen.

What they say the Rags are looking for: “… either a pick or a forward, because the Rangers are likely seeking future assets or bottom-6 players, as the Rangers are entering their window of competition.”

Everything You Need to Know About Nils Lundkvist, and Reviewing Mock Trades

Via NHL.com The Rangers are trying to trade Swedish defensive prospect, Nils Lundkvist, ahead of training camp, so let’s see what type of player he is, and what teams could use him. Who is Ni…

thescoringtouch.com

Just for discussion purposes, would you rather see Ylonen go or one of Kidney/ Mysak?

All three are in that 'if it's something we really want, they are expendable' territory to me. Ylonen would be my preference as I've lost faith in his ability to become a top-6 NHLer, Kidney is next, then Mysak. Still would trade any of the 3 if as the GM, me and my team liked Lundkvist's potential.

 

[Milhouse40]

FWIW, suggestion from a random site for a Habs trade for Lundkvist involves Ylonen.

What they say the Rags are looking for: “… either a pick or a forward, because the Rangers are likely seeking future assets or bottom-6 players, as the Rangers are entering their window of competition.”

Everything You Need to Know About Nils Lundkvist, and Reviewing Mock Trades

Via NHL.com The Rangers are trying to trade Swedish defensive prospect, Nils Lundkvist, ahead of training camp, so let’s see what type of player he is, and what teams could use him. Who is Ni…

thescoringtouch.com

Just for discussion purposes, would you rather see Ylonen go or one of Kidney/ Mysak?

Ylonen is the one that makes sense.
Mysak and Kidney are not of the same value because of their uncertainty.

Ylonen was drafted same year as Lundkvist, just a couple of spot lower.
Ylonen: 5 points in 14 NHL games
Lundkvist: 4 points in 25 NHL games
Both had great seasons in the AHL

For me this is the trade.....Mysak and Kidney have done nothing in the NHL and nothing in the AHL at all, their value is little to none for NYR which probably wants someone who proves themselves at the pro0level, even if it's a little.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

yeah I'd go in on Kravtsov RW & Lundqvist D4 for Mysak and Mailloux. I really like Mailloux and I do think he will be a solid top 4, but the montreal market is never going to let him live this down, he needs to go to the US where hockey takes a back seat to other sports.

The montreal market has already forgotten about it, rightfully so.

He's paid like a 2nd line center and yet he have to prove he can be a good 3C. His +- stats aren't good and he's a slow skater. He wins FO, he is good in corner (when he gets there on time) and he can stay solid on his skates in front of the net to score. But he's not fast, he doesn't deke well and he doesn't generate much offense. A good 3C was Carbonneau and Plekanec in his last years.

Sorry if you're offended by the quote I made "he's a below average 3C". I'm not happy to see 4,5 M spendt on that kind of player and I hope MSL can give him confidence and improve some aspects of his game to justify his 4,5M.

I’d prefer he was never acquired, but here we are with this useless trash. He’s what bottom feeders are made of, junk.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

The most single take you have seen here on a player, are you serious?
Honestly, I think there has been worse than this and this is not an exageration.
This is true if you've read only one page of threads, lol.
But can you elaborate for me and others here?

Don’t mind him, he’s looking for a fight so he’s zeroed in on this below average 3c distraction. Let him fight with himself.

 

[Lockin17]

Ylonen + Mysak + Norlinder for Kravtsov + Lundqvist

Ylonen + Norlinder = Kravtsov
Mysak = Lundqvist

 

[Sterling Archer]

Ylonen + Mysak + Norlinder for Kravtsov + Lundqvist

Ylonen + Norlinder = Kravtsov
Mysak = Lundqvist

I’d make that trade

 

[Jack Skellington]

Ylonen + Mysak + Norlinder for Kravtsov + Lundqvist

Ylonen + Norlinder = Kravtsov
Mysak = Lundqvist

Bust swap

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Ylonen + Mysak + Norlinder for Kravtsov + Lundqvist

Ylonen + Norlinder = Kravtsov
Mysak = Lundqvist

I’d make this trade in a heartbeat, but I don’t think the Rags would

 

[durojean]

Gallagher + Ylonen

for

Kravstsov, Lundvist

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Gallagher + Ylonen

for

Kravstsov, Lundvist

Gallagher is negative value, and the rags are tight to the cap.

 

[chef otto]

At the end of the day, Montreal needs to move cap/contract before dabbing in their own prospect pool in order to get another team's prospect. For a guy like Lundkvist, or any other, I say Armia/Hoffman/Byron/Drouin/Dvorak has got to be part of that trade. If the other team wants picks and prospect added, then sure depending on the return.
As for this Rangers guy, I don't see a fit from the Rangers side as they have zero cap space to dance with.
Simple question....Can Montreal trade for their buyout contract? They have like 3 plus million for this season in dead cap space. If so, I could see us trading Armia plus a 3rd or 4th pick for their dead cap space and maybe a guy like Lundkvist.

 

[CHfan1]

At the end of the day, Montreal needs to move cap/contract before dabbing in their own prospect pool in order to get another team's prospect. For a guy like Lundkvist, or any other, I say Armia/Hoffman/Byron/Drouin/Dvorak has got to be part of that trade. If the other team wants picks and prospect added, then sure depending on the return.
As for this Rangers guy, I don't see a fit from the Rangers side as they have zero cap space to dance with.
Simple question....Can Montreal trade for their buyout contract? They have like 3 plus million for this season in dead cap space. If so, I could see us trading Armia plus a 3rd or 4th pick for their dead cap space and maybe a guy like Lundkvist.

Teams can’t trade dead cap space. It’s on their books until it expires.

 

[durojean]

Gallagher is negative value, and the rags are tight to the cap.

I'm not so sure about Gallagher.

If I'm a playoffs team that want to go all in, he's actually the type of player I want in my team.

Problem is the cap. Do the rangers have a player with too high of a cap they could want to get rid of ?

 

[MarioLeMoose]

I'm not so sure about Gallagher.

If I'm a playoffs team that want to go all in, he's actually the type of player I want in my team.

Problem is the cap. Do the rangers have a player with too high of a cap they could want to get rid of ?

You’re not so sure that Gallagher is negative value?
I tried to put it nicely, but come on dude…

Gallagher was brutal during our cinderalla run in 2021 and his health ain’t getting any better. He’s washed and he’s massively overpaid. Rags aren’t trading 2 interesting prospects for him and a nothing prospect like Ylonen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Gallagher + Ylonen

for

Kravstsov, Lundvist

Do you always just throw out random shit that makes no sense for the other team, or what ?

 

[durojean]

I feel like for some team the intagibles that Gallagher brings and the potential to what he did at the beginning of his career could be interesting.

He probably is not the best fit for New York. But I do feel like there could be some teams interested in Gallagher. Particularly if he has a good start of the season.

He is an heart and soul guy that brings intensity to every game. He is also very good defensively.

 

[durojean]

Do you always just throw out random shit that makes no sense for the other team, or what ?

I really just did not thought it threw.

But I really felt that a Gallagher type player could be ineresting for the rangers to play on their 3rd line. His work ethic is often contagious and I feel he is the kind of player that could put your team over the top in the playoffs with all the experience he have in it. It is true that he is paid too much to play on a third line.

When I proposed it I did not check on Rangers cap space. When I did, I tried to check of a contract they might want to get rid of and I found out that the Rags are really well built. Sadly...

 

[Vachon23]

I feel like for some team the intagibles that Gallagher brings and the potential to what he did at the beginning of his career could be interesting.

He probably is not the best fit for New York. But I do feel like there could be some teams interested in Gallagher. Particularly if he has a good start of the season.

He is an heart and soul guy that brings intensity to every game. He is also very good defensively.

If he was UFA at the end of the season I would probably agree but he still have 4 years left after this season. That’s way to much for any GM

 

[durojean]

If he was UFA at the end of the season I would probably agree but he still have 4 years left after this season. That’s way to much for any GM

Not if he puts up 30 goals this year again. It is imperative to give him good ice time this year...

Anyway, he is still a good presence in the locker room to help groom our youngster. It's just sad that it comes attached to a 6 mil salary.

Bergevin really was a pretty bad GM.

 

[CHfan1]

If he was UFA at the end of the season I would probably agree but he still have 4 years left after this season. That’s way to much for any GM

Even if Gallagher was an UFA at the end of the season I think the Habs are adding a sweetener to trade him. The Flames had to trade a 1st to get rid of Monahan who had similar stats last season and makes a bit. Pacioretty got traded for future considerations. Dadonov, who makes $5 million and had 20 goals last season, got traded for a long term LTIR contract.

 

[montreal]

Gallagher has to have one of the worst contracts in the NHL currently, there's no way any team would touch that contract imo. Keep in mind that after this season he will get paid 17M (8M and 9M) in the following 2 years. If Pac gets traded for nothing, no team will take on the 34M Gallagher is still owed over 5 years till he's 34.

 

[calder candidate]

Lundkvist and Kravtsov aren’t anything special, they both requested for trade. Lundkvist just just in a dead end with Trouba, Fox and Scheinder in front of him.
NYR are top heavy + with 4 players semi core player soon come out of ELC this is the year to go in if Kravtsov can’t crack the lineup on a ELC that isn’t a good look Because he is exactly what they be look for in a trade cheap player to play in the middle 6 that has skills to bring secondary offense… Also neither team have cap room to make anything significant.