Trade Ideas

[saska sault]

RUMOR: Brady Tkachuk Hits The Trade Block: Ottawa Senators Shopping Their Captain?

The Ottawa Senators are shopping their captain Brady Tkachuk according to insider

www.houseofhockey.net

Wild to me. What a fall for the Senators.

Yah they fell from missing the playoffs 6 years straight to 7. The biggest fall is that fan base and their egos.

 

[datsyukfan]

Starting to want us to not even touch our forward group and make a move for hanifin, chychrun, Fowler, Ferraro or any other youngish D with some term to play in the top 4

 

[newfy]

Starting to want us to not even touch our forward group and make a move for hanifin, chychrun, Fowler, Ferraro or any other youngish D with some term to play in the top 4

Theres definitely a spot in the top 6 for more of a guy to go beside Compher and Raymond but I tend to agree with you. The offence is clicking, but if they could get someone that bumps Petry down to the third pair, this team is more improved than a second line winger.

Ferraro would be a really nice addition, hes hard to play against and good. He also fits Detroits age range perfectly and he grew up 3 hours down the 401

 

[datsyukfan]

Theres definitely a spot in the top 6 for more of a guy to go beside Compher and Raymond but I tend to agree with you. The offence is clicking, but if they could get someone that bumps Petry down to the third pair, this team is more improved than a second line winger.

Ferraro would be a really nice addition, hes hard to play against and good. He also fits Detroits age range perfectly and he grew up 3 hours down the 401

Wonder what the cost on Ferraro would be

 

[Detroit Knights]

I'd much rather go with a staple on defense than ferraro. Hanifin fits our team in ever way: need, playstyle, hockey iq, toughness. A top 4 of potentially ed - seider, hanifin asp in two years would be unfair to others and I am here for it.

 

[datsyukfan]

I'd much rather go with a staple on defense than ferraro. Hanifin fits our team in ever way: need, playstyle, hockey iq, toughness. A top 4 of potentially ed - seider, hanifin asp in two years would be unfair to others and I am here for it.

Really can’t argue with this

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Hanifin or Buchnevich as far as what is truly rumored to be out there. If not them, roll with what we got, I won't be mad if they don't want to go crazy and disrupt team chemistry right now.

Some of the ideas on this thread are pretty out there.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

What's goofy and someone mentioned it, can't remember who but the price for say a Tanev rental probably ends up being a first, and Hanifin probably ends up getting a 1st+prospect and maybe another pick in the 2nd range, or a lesser prospect.

If you are alreaady paying the first, why not pay the extra for vastly superior and younger player? I dunno rental prices blow. Like sign me up for Brad Stuart prices (2nd and 4th). Random fact the 4th round pick in the Stuart trade ended up being OT Benny!

Edit: Late nerd.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

If you are alreaady paying the first, why not pay the extra for vastly superior and younger player? I dunno rental prices blow. Like sign me up for Brad Stuart prices (2nd and 4th). Random fact the 4th round pick in the Stuart trade ended up being OT Benny!

2024 brad stuart for a 2nd and a 4th. who's that guy?

interesting fact, the 4th we traded for stuart was used to draft chiarot!

too slow, nerd!

 

[JediOrderPizza]

too slow, nerd!

Hmm.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Hanifin or Buchnevich as far as what is truly rumored to be out there. If not them, roll with what we got, I won't be mad if they don't want to go crazy and disrupt team chemistry right now.

Some of the ideas on this thread are pretty out there.

i'd be okay with not doing buchnevich. I know it was only one game sample lol but against stl he was not playing very well. We boat raced them so you attribute it to that i suppose.

 

[Gniwder]

I've played NCAA hockey.

Lol, Idiot man. lol.

Anyways a couple guys aren't playing that you could move without much going on.
( Holl/Kostin/Husso ).

Do college teams trade? You're still thinking from a fan's perspective.

And how's your trades help the team?

 

[Snuggs]

Do college teams trade? You're still thinking from a fan's perspective.

And how's your trades help the team?

Even if you're going to Copp out to that... You told me I've never played team sports...

I'm not acting like I have a magical solution either for trading Kostin and getting productive player back, but just as a small example of how the team could upgrade itself would be trading Kostin and like a 6th or 5th round pick for C Jeff Carter to ride the bench, be that veteran in the locker-room who can actually play a 4th line role at C(when called upon due to injury, etc), win face-offs and play some PK time. MORE than what Kostin can bring in and idk, depends if you're ok giving up the 5th rdp or whatever. Carters at FA at the end of the year. It's simply a depth move, not sure it moves the meter much but you get better imo. An that's like a really minor move.

 

[Detroit Knights]

I've played NCAA hockey.

Lol, Idiot man. lol.

Anyways a couple guys aren't playing that you could move without much going on.
( Holl/Kostin/Husso ).

as much as I would want to, i don't think husso is tradeable at the moment unless the other team is 100% ok with him not playing the rest of the season.

 

[Gniwder]

Even if you're going to Copp out to that... You told me I've never played team sports...

I'm not acting like I have a magical solution either for trading Kostin and getting productive player back, but just as a small example of how the team could upgrade itself would be trading Kostin and like a 6th or 5th round pick for C Jeff Carter to ride the bench, be that veteran in the locker-room who can actually play a 4th line role at C(when called upon due to injury, etc), win face-offs and play some PK time. MORE than what Kostin can bring in and idk, depends if you're ok giving up the 5th rdp or whatever. Carters at FA at the end of the year.

Kostin at $2M isn't even tradable without retention, and it would be cheaper to just buy him out because he's under 26.

Regardless, there's no roster limit after the trade deadline, so trading away players isn't necessary. Maybe you should stick to discussing college hockey.

Edit: Both Holl and Husso would also require salary retention. Husso is also injured.

 

[Snuggs]

Kostin at $2M isn't even tradable without retention, and it would be cheaper to just buy him out because he's under 26.

Regardless, there's no roster limit after the trade deadline, so trading away players isn't necessary. Maybe you should stick to discussing college hockey.

Edit: Both Holl and Husso would also require salary retention. Husso is also injured.

It's not, unless you like your 6th/5th round pick, cause Jeff Carter(in my example) is a UFA next year. So you get the better player for the playoff run and get Kostin off the books for 24/25.

I moved a player for a better player. I can't add Jeff Carter with 20 games left and have Kostin on the roster. There's no point in giving up the pick if there's salary retention.

You should just of said you rather keep your picks than act like a jerk. Idk what the college hockey comment is about, other than you're childish. I mean it's not like you're or have been some professional athlete, so to lecture me on how you know is great.

 

[Gniwder]

It's not, unless you like your 6th/5th round pick, cause Jeff Carter(in my example) is a UFA next year. So you get the better player for the playoff run and get Kostin off the books for 24/25.

I moved a player for a better player. I can't add Jeff Carter with 20 games left and have Kostin on the roster. There's no point in giving up the pick if there's salary retention.

Stick to arguing with your bar flys.

You should just of said you rather keep your picks than act like a jerk.

There won't be any takers for Kostin at $2M. You're not getting a 6th for him. He has negative trade value, what part of that don't you understand?

It's literally worse than thinking Zadina had trade value, lol

 

[Snuggs]

There won't be any takers for Kostin at $2M. You're not getting a 6th for him. He has negative trade value, what part of that don't you understand?

It's literally worse than thinking Zadina had trade value, lol

No, you aren't understanding.

Kostin/6th or 5thrdp

for

Jeff Carter.

Kostin has no trade value I agree, but he could be moved imo with a pick for a "older" veteran that could help. Cap dump basically with a pick. Carters just my quick example it's not like a favorite move.

So you ship Kostin and the pick for Carter and the rest of this year, plus dump the cap on Koston in 24/25. Now it depends on how much Penguins like the pick for the cap dump.

 

[Snuggs]

as much as I would want to, i don't think husso is tradeable at the moment unless the other team is 100% ok with him not playing the rest of the season.

Yeah that'd be my theory too, but for some teams that might even be ok.

Just as an example, San Jose only has 1 goalie signed next year, two prospects that aren't doing that well honestly. Depending on the pick coming there way and the player going to the Red Wings they might be ok with something like this for a year while rebuilding. Help hit the cap floor, not long-term, veteran by now, etc. etc.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Yeah that'd be my theory too, but for some teams that might even be ok.

Just as an example, San Jose only has 1 goalie signed next year, two prospects that aren't doing that well honestly. Depending on the pick coming there way and the player going to the Red Wings they might be ok with something like this for a year while rebuilding. Help hit the cap floor, not long-term, veteran by now, etc. etc.

totally fine with it and could see something like that happening more towards the draft or start of FA. I think vegas winning by using their 5th goalie reserve is making yzerman noivous. Earlier in this thread i think i said reimer to sj just to get him off the roster and have husso+package (when he wasn't injured i believe) to calgary to get markstrom. Markstrom/lyon duo would be a very very good 50/50 tandem next year.

Unfortunate for husso, but lyon has just made him very expendable and i am sure he would rather be playing starter minutes than backup with us.

 

[GMR]

When is the last time Detroit were buyers at the deadline?

Was it the Legwand, Cole, Zidlicky era when Holland was desperately trying to keep the streak going?

 

[Snuggs]

When is the last time Detroit were buyers at the deadline?

Was it the Legwand, Cole, Zidlicky era when Holland was desperately trying to keep the streak going?

Yeah, but they made the playoffs again the following year with no TDL moves...

 

[Ricelund]

When is the last time Detroit were buyers at the deadline?

Was it the Legwand, Cole, Zidlicky era when Holland was desperately trying to keep the streak going?

Cole and Zidlicky in 2015.

 

[GMR]

Cole and Zidlicky in 2015.

That period between like 2011 and 2016 is just one big blur to me. 2013 was an exception because of the mini playoff run.

But I don’t remember what years we had Legwand, Alfredsson, Cole, Modano, Zidlicky, Tootoo. Seemed like the same team stuck in limbo.

 

[RRhoads]

I don't see the point in getting Carter just to have him as a 13th forward. He hasn't produced much this year.

Buying out Kostin doesn't cost much at all. 0.166M