Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XI

[AKL]

He could be useful,as part of a package,for a team stating a rebuild (Leafs,Coyotes),he's young with a bit of NHL experience and has the skills and potential to be better.

Haula by himself won't get much of anything,but package him with a pick and he might.

Unless that pick is a 1st rounder, it still won't get you much. Even then, you're still only going to get someone in a slightly better position than Haula. At that point, you're better off keeping the pick and Haula.

At best, he'd be a throw-in in a much bigger trade.

 

[plock]

Unless that pick is a 1st rounder, it still won't get you much. Even then, you're still only going to get someone in a slightly better position than Haula. At that point, you're better off keeping the pick and Haula.

At best, he'd be a throw-in in a much bigger trade.

I believe Haula + 2nd absolutely gets Santorelli.You may even get Santorelli for Haula + 4th.Santorelli would be an improvement over Haula and Brodziak as well.

 

[AKL]

I believe Haula + 2nd absolutely gets Santorelli.You may even get Santorelli for Haula + 4th.

Not sure why the Wild would do that...

 

[Dee Oh Cee]

What Haula could be and what he showed he could be last year is more valuable to us than what he could get back right now in a trade...at least I think.

 

[plock]

Not sure why the Wild would do that...

In the short term it helps add a bit of offense with Zucker and Carter out.In the long term it's a cheaper and better replacement for Brodziak.

 

[AKL]

In the short term it helps add a bit of offense with Zucker and Carter out.In the long term it's a cheaper and better replacement for Brodziak.

He wouldn't necessarily be long term. No reason to just assume he'd re-sign with us. That being said, being cheaper is also not a guarantee.

At the same time, Haula could also be that cheaper, better option long term, or he could be even better than Brodziak long term. It's better at this point to hang on to Haula and our 2nd round pick. We need to re-stock the cupboards.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

He wouldn't necessarily be long term. No reason to just assume he'd re-sign with us. That being said, being cheaper is also not a guarantee.

At the same time, Haula could also be that cheaper, better option long term, or he could be even better than Brodziak long term. It's better at this point to hang on to Haula and our 2nd round pick. We need to re-stock the cupboards.

I agree with most of this but if Haula and a 5th for next season would do it, I would take the deal. A lot of unknowns here with who could be better than who and if he will resign and everything. I am not as high on Haula as some and like Santorelli IF we can resign for 3 years or so.

Again, a ton of unknowns and this is why I like the discussion.

 

[plock]

What Haula could be and what he showed he could be last year is more valuable to us than what he could get back right now in a trade...at least I think.

Haula still needs development,unfortunately that development has to happen in the NHL because we burned his waiver eligibility.Will Haula become a good or even very good NHL player?Maybe,but it will take some time and is hardly a sure thing.

 

[Jarick]

Between Nino in the top six, Schroeder on the third line, and Keranen sitting in Iowa, Wild should have enough depth to fill out the wing spot internally.

 

[plock]

Between Nino in the top six, Schroeder on the third line, and Keranen sitting in Iowa, Wild should have enough depth to fill out the wing spot internally.

Zucker and Carter account for 20% of the Wilds goals.Expecting Schroeder or Keranen to replace that,or to expect Granlund,Coyle and Haula to suddenly start scoring at a higher rate is not realistic.At this point in the season in such a tight race a 20% decline in scoring is not a good scenario.

 

[rynryn]

well **** i guess i'll stop watching.

 

[TheeNorthStar]

Honestly, unless we get a bottom pairing Dman... we should probably stay put..

We made our deal.. Duby.. and he's worked out great so far. Don't just do a deal to do a deal...
I know its not nearly as fun but we've been rolling so far... No need to do anything at this point. We roll with what we have and Im ok with that...

And I am for holding on to Haula. I believe the kid can't still be a good asset to the team in the long haul

 

[Blizzard6411]

Zucker and Carter account for 20% of the Wilds goals.Expecting Schroeder or Keranen to replace that,or to expect Granlund,Coyle and Haula to suddenly start scoring at a higher rate is not realistic.At this point in the season in such a tight race a 20% decline in scoring is not a good scenario.

It is not unrealistic at all to expect Coyle, Granlund or Haula to score at a higher rate then what they have so far.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

Zucker and Carter account for 20% of the Wilds goals.Expecting Schroeder or Keranen to replace that,or to expect Granlund,Coyle and Haula to suddenly start scoring at a higher rate is not realistic.At this point in the season in such a tight race a 20% decline in scoring is not a good scenario.

Carter has scored all of 0 goals in 2015. He's a great bottom-6er and PKer but lets not tie him to goal scoring right now.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Honestly, unless we get a bottom pairing Dman... we should probably stay put..

We made our deal.. Duby.. and he's worked out great so far. Don't just do a deal to do a deal...
I know its not nearly as fun but we've been rolling so far... No need to do anything at this point. We roll with what we have and Im ok with that...

And I am for holding on to Haula. I believe the kid can't still be a good asset to the team in the long haul

I see your point and it is a good one. The proposal of Santorelli to me isn't the "deal to do a deal" trade but one that can possibly replace some scoring (11g 19a). However, I see where you're coming from and like I said, you make a compelling argument.

 

[BigT2002]

Carter has scored all of 0 goals in 2015. He's a great bottom-6er and PKer but lets not tie him to goal scoring right now.

Agreed. I also like to weigh those who play the role and position as you would expect as opposed to trying to make this NHL 15 and stacking 4 lines of scorers, playmakers and puck possessors too.

While you can just plug a 4th line with whatever excess you have and just give them 4-6 minutes a game, I would prefer a team that has a solid 3/4 who can still score but play solid defense in the defensive zone if they need to, as opposed to being a liability everytime they are out there. Let us all remember what we had before: Rupp-Konopka-Sparkplug/Mitchell as a 4th line once upon a time....

 

[hirawl]

Haula and a pick for a possible slight upgrade upcoming UFA is just madness.

 

[thestonedkoala]

The Wild aren't in a position to give up many assets at this point. We're wafer thin at some position (just look at our depth at right wing) and not a lot coming in at this point. We have maybe 1 good prospect in the AHL, 1 okay prospect and 1 good prospect outside the NHL/AHL. We have a lot of ifs, ands, or buts...

 

[Spurgeon]

The Wild aren't in a position to give up many assets at this point. We're wafer thin at some position (just look at our depth at right wing) and not a lot coming in at this point. We have maybe 1 good prospect in the AHL, 1 okay prospect and 1 good prospect outside the NHL/AHL. We have a lot of ifs, ands, or buts...

We do need to keep all of our picks and prospects, but I think this team has a Cup Window for the next 3-5 years, which should give them enough time to rebuild in Iowa.

 

[Victorious Secret]

It is not unrealistic at all to expect Coyle, Granlund or Haula to score at a higher rate then what they have so far.

It'd be hard to score at a lower rate....

 

[tomgilbertfan]

The thing is, the Wild have traded away draft picks and young assets the past few seasons, and they can’t keep doing that every year. That’s why Fletcher, it’s believed, didn’t want to part with his second-round pick last month in a potential trade with the Buffalo Sabres for Jhonas Enroth. Instead, he dealt a third-round pick to the Arizona Coyotes for Devan Dubnyk, a decision that’s been nothing but spectacular so far given the new goalie’s rock-solid play.

The Wild don’t have a second-round pick in 2016 (it was dealt in the Matt Moulson deal last season), so keeping this June’s second-rounder seems very important to Minnesota.

Via LeBrun

 

[Jarick]

Gotta land that next Bussieres.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

Or Zucker.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Gotta land that next Bussieres.

Hey now! Where else would we draft him? We don't have a third to pick up the next Gabriel.

With that said, if we can trade a 6th for a depth defenseman. Go for it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Gotta land that next Bussieres.

Or Zucker.

Drafts are fun.