Granlund is well below at 5on5 performance ... his empty net assists to Duchene early help his numbers. He is also one of the more easily moved based on ability of other teams to fit him in their cap and easily replaced with his shift to wing and Tomasino / Evangalista in the pipeline.
Duck duck goose analogy aside, that is the next logical step for him to make the team better/younger, right? It's really the only way to rid the team of some of the deadweight salary wise.
There's just no way a goalie fetches that kind of return outside of maybe Vasilevsky, and even then it's not happening because a team with those types of draft assets aren't trading for a veteran goalie.
Granlund
2nd round pick + B prospect
Trenin 1st round pick + Niemelä
Watch and see and be prepared to be disappointed. I think Poile makes some moves but not the ones people want to see.
If Brandon Hagel returned two 1sts, and two prospects, Trenin can definitely fetch a 1st.
Hagel was a 23 year old pending RFA with 21 goals during his trade season going to a team looking for that certain piece and willing to pay a premium.
Decent is the ultimate in subjective. There would be a wide range of packages people would probably accept for Saros if all opinions were voiced.
I'll be interested to see how many 1sts are tossed around this year. A 1st seems like it's going to be pretty highly valued for this draft.
Yeh these paper transactions as of late have me wondering whats going on. If we arent buyers per Poile, why are we so interested in nickle and diming cap all of a sudden (unless ownership has ordered him to save money due to lower ticket sales.)
I wouldn't even trade him for a late 1st, unless as Scoresberg noted there is some lingering bad blood that makes the team 100% sure he's going to leave as a UFA anyway. People vastly overrate the value of late 1sts. They are a coin flip of even being an NHL player... in 5 years time. Trenin truly should return a 1st, otherwise be kept for next year.
As soon as Stillman’s previous co-host took over as the first mic on the midday show, I can’t remember her name, it’s almost unlistenable now too. I’ve gotten to the point I turn that station off after 9am and just listen to the podcast of Chase’s show segment on hockey. (Thankful for that fast forward button on podcasts)
If Trenin wants to stay then I wouldn't trade Trenin to get him back either.
And he's one who already panned out!
Oh I don't normally unless I catch some Pred news. Besides, my drive home is like 4-5 minutes if traffic is slow
I highly doubt a team would trade away a kid with 9G and 4A in 19 games playing on arguably their most productive line. That’d just be bad asset management. So you don’t have to worry about getting him back, especially for just Trenin.If Trenin wants to stay then I wouldn't trade Trenin to get him back either.
Possible there are some elements of the pending sale whereby potential nickle and diming, along with not paying for fired coaches, has some value at a higher level.
I'm not worried about it. But I do like Trenin more than Tolvanen. We should have both of them in our lineup tonight, however, so it's kind of a moot point.
Keep him for now. What if the TML bomb again in the playoffs? I lead with Saros and anyone they want other than Josi and Forsberg for Matthews, assuming he signs long term with us. It finally gives us an elite center to build a team around. Other moves might have to happen to clear some cap space but sometimes you need to shake things up. Toronto will not lose AM for nothing.
Id also keep an i on edmonton for ekholm/saros. Their defense is thin and campbell has been a disaster. Theyre running short on time with draisaitls sweetheart deal and at this point id have to imagine mcdavid and draisaitls patience must be running thin.
