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[hardystar]

If we ever embark on another rebuild asset wise it won't be as horrible as the beginning of Jets 2.0 that inherited Carl Klingberg as it's best prospect. The problem we will have during the next rebuild is fan support, and I for one don't blame the fans. One playoff appearance in the first 7 years. Truly only 15 months of joy. The beginning of the 2017 to December 2018. 2020-2023 has just been one long journey of spinning our tires. We are on every good players no trade list. PLD basically forcing us to trade him to one destination. It really is hard to be a fan of this organization and not all is TNSE and managements fault. It is like us as fans have to play the game on super sicko mode when other franchises get it on easy mode.

Well said.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

If we ever embark on another rebuild asset wise it won't be as horrible as the beginning of Jets 2.0 that inherited Carl Klingberg as it's best prospect. The problem we will have during the next rebuild is fan support, and I for one don't blame the fans. One playoff appearance in the first 7 years. Truly only 15 months of joy. The beginning of the 2017 to December 2018. 2020-2023 has just been one long journey of spinning our tires. We are on every good players no trade list. PLD basically forcing us to trade him to one destination. It really is hard to be a fan of this organization and not all is TNSE and managements fault. It is like us as fans have to play the game on super sicko mode when other franchises get it on easy mode.

I disagree. I think they will be starting from a worse position depending on what they get for Scheifele, Dubois, and Helly.

The 2011-12 Winnipeg Jets had:

25 year old Blake Wheeler - first line winger
20 year old Kane - first line winger
26 year old Ladd - first or second line winger
24 year old Little - 2nd line centre
-also used Atlanta's 7th overall pick on 18-year old Schiefele.

26 year old Buff - #1 d-man
27 year old Enstrom - #1 or top-pairing d-man
21 year old Bogo - 2nd pairing d-man
30 year old Hainsey - 2nd pairing d-man

Many of these players had just signed or were about to sign (in the next year or 2) long-term extensions so there was no concern of losing them to free agency as the club was building up their talent. In contrast, many of the current core Jets are coming close to the end of their current extensions (Ehlers, Connor, arguably some of the d-man like Dillon and Demelo).

Without Scheif, Dubois and Helly, we have the above-mentioned players who the clock is ticking on. After that, what do we have for a proven core besides Morrissey with decent length left on their contracts. Guys like Schmidt and Pionk are overpaid for what they bring to the table and are probably not ideal top-4 d man..at least not both of them.

Sure, the Jets have more prospects than the Atlanta team we inherited, but are the likes of Perfetti, McGroaty, Lucius, Heinola, Samberg collectively going to be as good as the guys I listed above from 2011-12? I have my doubts.

 

[puck stoppa]

Okay after we picked up Nino and Name what is the bottom 6 pecking order? We know Lowry and Apples are there and also likely Barron. If healthy (Perfetti back in the top 6) that leaves one spot open,

After that my order is Stenlund, Axel, Gus, Gagner, Sak and KK.

Is it bad I have Harkins ahead of most of those? Lol
Stenlund gagner harkins my top 3.

 

[Buffdog]

The people we ”choose“ to surround ourselves with have a massive impact on us. Two positive friends in an inner circle is a force multiplier that has a compound effect.

I've found that the people we choose NOT to surround ourselves with are just as important - or moreso.

One negative person can torpedo everything.

 

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[WiscoJet]

I disagree. I think they will be starting from a worse position depending on what they get for Scheifele, Dubois, and Helly.

The 2011-12 Winnipeg Jets had:

25 year old Blake Wheeler - first line winger
20 year old Kane - first line winger
26 year old Ladd - first or second line winger
24 year old Little - 2nd line centre
-also used Atlanta's 7th overall pick on 18-year old Schiefele.

26 year old Buff - #1 d-man
27 year old Enstrom - #1 or top-pairing d-man
21 year old Bogo - 2nd pairing d-man
30 year old Hainsey - 2nd pairing d-man

Many of these players had just signed or were about to sign (in the next year or 2) long-term extensions so there was no concern of losing them to free agency as the club was building up their talent. In contrast, many of the current core Jets are coming close to the end of their current extensions (Ehlers, Connor, arguably some of the d-man like Dillon and Demelo).

Without Scheif, Dubois and Helly, we have the above-mentioned players who the clock is ticking on. After that, what do we have for a proven core besides Morrissey with decent length left on their contracts. Guys like Schmidt and Pionk are overpaid for what they bring to the table and are probably not ideal top-4 d man..at least not both of them.

Sure, the Jets have more prospects than the Atlanta team we inherited, but are the likes of Perfetti, McGroaty, Lucius, Heinola, Samberg collectively going to be as good as the guys I listed above from 2011-12? I have my doubts.

Fair points, I was just meaning the prospect pool. I just think all that you listed is what kept us from picking really high but didn't get us into the playoffs. The only time we picked in the top 5 it was because of a little lottery luck.

 

[SensibleGuy]

I've found that the people we choose NOT to surround ourselves with are just as important - or moreso.

One negative person can torpedo everything.

Sure that's all well and good. But this is a sports forum...are we really trying to suggest that nobody should post anything but cheerful positive comments here - no matter what the circumstances of the team we're following are? Frankly...I wouldn't stick around very long for that. I mean my original comment was a response to someone complaining about negativity. Sure obviously some people go too far (in both directions) but still, people are going to get upset when things aren't going well and they're going to vent it here...they also get pretty happy and yell pretty loudly when things ARE going well.

 

[ps241]

I've found that the people we choose NOT to surround ourselves with are just as important - or moreso.

One negative person can torpedo everything.

Both sides are true no doubt.

 

[WolfHouse]

If this team gets past the first 2 rounds and comes short in the 3rd or 4th. Remember this day....

Its a winnipeg team... they approach TD looking for a winnipeg deal...

I've found that the people we choose NOT to surround ourselves with are just as important - or moreso.

One negative person can torpedo everything.

Not true @White Out 403 has been here a long time and we all still think helle is a vezina goalie

 

[robertocarlos]

The Jets are a little better today than they were a week ago so that's something.

 

[WolfHouse]

The Jets are a little better today than they were a week ago so that's something.

Slow d0

 

[Heldig]

The only way this season will end well is if the forwards re-commits to the 200 foot game they played the first 1/3 of the season.

Jets need to be in the top 5 GAA and PK and, hopefully add a little more balanced scoring.

Fully expect the team will look very different next season.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Well said.

Is it bad I have Harkins ahead of most of those? Lol
Stenlund gagner harkins my top 3.

Harkins, Gags then Gus for me

 

[Thechozen1]

Yeah I just think both will look to win Cups elsewhere and will be paid just as handsomely to do it.

Hellebuyck would be a great addition on teams like New Jersey, Carolina or Detroit.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Last season the coach fired himself.


Chevy resignation incoming?