Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[Beerz]

I do find it interesting that much of the chatter from the "experts" say Adams is making the right choice by sticking to his plan and not spending at the deadline. I'm not sure I completely agree with it, but it does seem to be the feeling outside of Buffalo even among other fan bases judging by the comments on the general forum.

In looking at many of the moves made, I'm definitely happy they didn't spend the assets for most of the players moved so far. The Chychrun move was annoying, and maybe Schenn given the low returns but most of the players moved really weren't interesting or were way too expensive. I'd still like to see a better move than Stillman, and I'll be disappointed, but I'll also understand.

I think the offseason with so many teams loading up does present some potential opportunities to get some players for cheap though. Boston for example might be ripe for picking up a Dman for below market value.

Because they are lazy and are only thinking about a 1st for a standard rental .. instead of thinking beyond that

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[truthbluth]

Like, but like, don't actually like.

 

[Ace]

I just want to say how fitting it is that the last day the Sabres will be sitting in a playoff spot by points percentage is going to be deadline day.

it’s beautiful. It’s perfect.

 

[JLewyB]

I just want to say how fitting it is that the last day the Sabres will be sitting in a playoff spot by points percentage is going to be deadline day.

it’s beautiful. It’s perfect.

Yeag. They suckered me into buying tickets for the predators game too. I made the bet they were still going to be relevant but you can just feel the wheels about to come off. Dahlin with a nagging injury, Tuch out for the rest of the regular season and the lack of movement during this TDL is sealing this teams fate.

I hope im wrong that im just being a doom and gloom fan but the confidence in locker room cant be high right now

 

[MeenOlViks]

Based on what Adams is/isnt doing i think he's planning on building a team around Levi in Roch

 

[Jim Bob]

What to make of Sabres trading Erik Portillo and passing on a Jakob Chychrun deal

The return for Chychrun wasn't as high as expected but the Sabres decided to stay the course.

theathletic.com

The Sabres were still interested enough to stay engaged in the trade talks until the end. Eventually, this is the type of deal Adams may need to make to boost this roster. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that he’s staying the course, though. Too often, past general managers have rushed and made trades that looked good in the moment but hampered the team’s future flexibility. Buffalo has a chance to make the postseason, but in a loaded Eastern Conference, their championship window hasn’t yet arrived.

Adams and Granato have both shown patience previous regimes lacked. They have the team in playoff contention and have gotten notable improvement through developing the talent on the roster. The Senators, another team trying to climb the standings, has taken a different approach, aggressively acquiring proven NHL players like Alex DeBrincat and Claude Giroux last offseason and now Chychrun this week.

Time will tell which approach works better, but the Sabres haven’t veered off course from the message they’ve consistently and clearly stated. They had the tough task of changing the narrative about the franchise and making it a place players in the league want to play. They’re starting to see the results of that. They’ve locked up Tage Thompson, Dylan Cozens and Mattias Samuelsson to long-term extensions. Their reputation as a team is starting to change.

“You hear it more and more, players saying things either to me or to teammates and those teammates or guys on our team refer it,” Granato said. “Agents are calling more to see what openings we may have and availabilities we may have. It’s been, I don’t want to say a 180, but the volume of that has increased. That’s a credit to our guys to create the environment they have and the identity they have. We do see it here lots more.”

The next step will be capitalizing on that interest by adding talent from outside the organization. The Chychrun trade was the latest example that the Sabres don’t yet feel a desperate need to do that.

 

[Beerz]

Yeag. They suckered me into buying tickets for the predators game too. I made the bet they were still going to be relevant but you can just feel the wheels about to come off. Dahlin with a nagging injury, Tuch out for the rest of the regular season and the lack of movement during this TDL is sealing this teams fate.

I hope im wrong that im just being a doom and gloom fan but the confidence in locker room cant be high right now

Yeah.. I wouldn't spend money on a team that refuses to spend money.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Fezzy126]

I haven't read anything remotely like this. Only things I've seen are that Arizona absolutely refused to take a roster contract(cap dump) back in the trade and that they liked that Ottawa's 1st pick was only top 5 protected.

I don’t recall reading it that way

I haven't read anything remotely like this. Only things I've seen are that Arizona absolutely refused to take a roster contract(cap dump) back in the trade and that they liked that Ottawa's 1st pick was only top 5 protected.

Mea Culpa - that's right, the rumor was that the other offers required Arizona to take on salary cap to make the deal work.

My personal opinion - that's an excuse to do right by the player and avoid the negative pushback. Arizona has never had a problem taking on player contracts, it makes no sense that this would be "the reason" they passed up better deals. They literally just took Voracek who has a base salary of $7.5M next year.

But either way, I shouldn't have stated that as fact...

 

[Willgamesh]

Over under KA takes a shit today before the 3pm deadline?

Why do gambling addicts have to add their addiction to normal talking points. A yes or no would suffice.

Vrana to STL? Anyone have a legit source?

 

[Beerz]

Over under KA takes a shit today before the 3pm deadline?

Why do gambling addicts have to add their addiction to normal talking points. A yes or no would suffice.

Vrana to STL? Anyone have a legit source?

Think these guys are legit.



7th round pick lol

 

[DapperCam]

Mea Culpa - that's right, the rumor was that the other offers required Arizona to take on salary cap to make the deal work.

My personal opinion - that's an excuse to do right by the player and avoid the negative pushback. Arizona has never had a problem taking on player contracts, it makes no sense that this would be "the reason" they passed up better deals. They literally just took Voracek who has a base salary of $7.5M next year.

But either way, I shouldn't have stated that as fact...

I agree they probably let Chychrun have a say. But in Voracek’s case he has a concussion and apparently his career is probably over. He is going to get an insurance settlement and the Coyotes will only have to pay a fraction of his actual salary. I’m not 100% sure how it works, but they get to have some of his cap count like they did with Pronger.

 

[stealth1]

Think these guys are legit.



7th round pick lol

He's not that good and doubt the Red Wings send him to a team in their division. I feel many of you want a trade for the sake of making a trade.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Willgamesh]

He's not that good and doubt the Red Wings send him to a team in their division. I feel many of you want a trade for the sake of making a trade.

It's just a trade deadline discussion thread so we're discussing trades. Nobody even said we should of made a trade yet.

 

[Beerz]

He's not that good and doubt the Red Wings send him to a team in their division. I feel many of you want a trade for the sake of making a trade.

Where did I say I wanted him?

 

[Willgamesh]

Think these guys are legit.



7th round pick lol

Might be 50% retained as well.

 

[Djp]

I’m not the only person who is saying it. I’ve been saying it all year…and now analysts have caught up to it.

Its a normal draft with less D.

Laugh all you want…I’ve done the work on this draft. So have many other people. It’s. Just. A. Draft. After the very top. One that doesn’t even align with our need.

The number of 1st traded should tell you everything you need to know. No one is afraid of losing out on picking in this draft unless it’s at the top.

You’re just wrong, pal.


I know how many times I was told it all year when I explained what this draft was. And I know I said those people were wrong. And hey…record number of 1sts moved.


Those franchises will do something that this one won’t.

Make moves and spend money to continue to ice quality teams.

People who are holding out this unreal belief that they Sabres are going to get some super stud in the first round because it’s three rounds deep of hall of famers are in for a very very rude wake up call.

Theyre going to draft a player with a chance to be an NHL player who won’t be in the league until 2026. That’s what you’re hanging on to.

And it is incredibly likely it will have to be another forward unless they get very lucky or reach very far.

youve heard people say it’s a great draft and never looked into why that’s being said. Then everyone just keeps saying it and now everyone believes it’s true.

It’s going to be a long summer if this is the thing you are banking on

Thst is false.

1st round picks ( non- goalies)in the top 20 of 23 draft will likely be in the league playing regularly in 25/36. More than half in by 24/25.

circumstance can affect this like europe contracts, team depth/ needs.

the 2 from 2020 draft that are not were the Toronto pick who had a medical issue occur and the devils D then traded for Meier. For devils they have a vet heavy D so they didn’t have a need to rush him. They since drafted anemic and Hughes which made him a tad expendable. If buffalo drafted him, he’d probably be in Rochester and getting called up now.

Later draft picks outside top 50 tend to not make the nhl ( beyond short call ups) until 4-6 years after the draft.

they have a big prospect void in their system with D thst they need to address. If they pick a F with their 1st then they need to trade for someone U24 And draft D with their 2nds.

they are not ready to blow the 23 1st for someone 0-3 full yrs left till UFA.

look at this teams salary structure and how much cap space the team will have in 25/26 when Power, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka are signed to bridges. If they sign Johnson and Levi, I think they have just 2 yr ELC so if they play this year they are RFAs for 25/26 and UPL is on a 3rd contract. The roster 3-4 ELCs on it too.

if they signed ELCs to longer contract will hurt the cap space, cable tv issues will hurt and restrict cap growth.

they really can’t big game huntres.

2 full yr type to UFA is not ideal. 3-4 full years left are better because you have flexibility to recoup what you traded Because you coukd trade then in summer 25 if you need the cap space to resign ELCs otpr you have young players ready.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Really? You don't think Boston, Tampa or TO are falling off in the next 5 years? If not, I have a futures bet I'll place with you. Matthews is gone, Tavares retired, Marchand gone, Stamkos gone. None of these teams have their 1st round picks. They're going to be trash come 2027 while Ottawa DRW and us run the division.

This just isn't the year to be buyers. Relax everyone. Youngest team in the league. We will most likely lean towards the buyers/contending side of things the next 5 years.

Instead of not beating Bos, Tor, or TB, we won't be able to beat Det or Ott.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Think these guys are legit.



7th round pick lol

Weren't there some off-ice issues with him? They didn't even play him in Detroit most of the year despite their need for goal scoring.

 

[old kummelweck]

Adams is all of a sudden looking vulnerable. Prices just went up for the Sabres. I am thinking he overpays for someone like Brock Boeser.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Adams is all of a sudden looking vulnerable. Prices just went up for the Sabres. I am thinking he overpays for someone like Brock Boeser.

Oh my, that would make thise deadline even worse. A move just to make a move is weak sauce.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

You’re seeing what you want to see - he was not any worse than the rest of our D and at least hit some people. He was not a tire fire more than the rest of the team and had almost no practice.

That's the problem...he wasn't any better...

 

[Beerz]

Weren't there some off-ice issues with him? They didn't even play him in Detroit most of the year despite their need for goal scoring.

Yes. Not sure that it was ever disclosed