Trade Deadline 2015 Part II

enigmatic

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When Garth makes a deal he usually does it right at 3. I would rather him wait and pick someone off for cheap when a team is desperate. (a la him dumping Vanek for pennies on the dollar last year)

I believe there is a move to be made here, but not for these outrageous current prices.

exactly....not sure that he will wait til 3, but i agree with your premise.....we really dont have any GLARING needs....when healthy (no reason to think we wont be come playoff time), we are a pretty deep team.........aside from the backup goalie....because of that, only make a trade if it works for us
 

SI90

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Can't blame Garth for standing pat.

But I'd rather lose in the playoffs with Reinhart or Pulcok playing than with Strait.
 

enigmatic

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Can't blame Garth for standing pat.

But I'd rather lose in the playoffs with Reinhart or Pulcok playing than with Strait.

im really hoping we trade strait for a 4th round pick or something....i bet some team would take that...he is cheap and can eat minutes (even if he sucks)....then i will feel better about him getting ice time lately......kinda
 

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Over/Under: 0.5 trades made by Snow today

Over. Hoping for just one, which would be a minor deal to improve the PK. Short of that, you don't mess up a young team with great unity and chemistry that is getting results as this one is.

Sometimes I think a quarter of the board would have traded Denis Potvin in 1978 or 1979.
 

SI90

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I don't think Strait gets dealt. The way that cappy talks about him leads me to believe that they think he's more valuable than he really is.
 

Wanderson

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I'm holding out hope that Strait is dealt so Capuano can't use him. Would rather see Donovan get a shot or bring in one of the kids as the #7 when the AHL season is over.

What do you think another team will give up for Strait? The Islanders tricked Philly last season, Philly scouted AMac badly and thought he was a good d-man. Maybe the same scenario is possible this season.
 

MBossy22

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I'm holding out hope that Strait is dealt so Capuano can't use him. Would rather see Donovan get a shot or bring in one of the kids as the #7 when the AHL season is over.

Agree. Would love to see them replace Strait. If we dont get a player, and just picks then bring up Donovan! or even Griff
 

enigmatic

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Strait for Robyn Regehr, straight up. :sarcasm:

he beat me....STRAIT up!

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Cypher

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We have some average to good forwards for the PK, Nielsen, Grabner, Clutterbuck, Ciszikas but clearly we need help. Of course firing Cronin and getting a better coach there would help but i doubt it's going to happen. I think the biggest need is another dman with size and snarl but another forward wouldn't hurt. Any thoughts on who is out there?

The Avs offer you Hejda/Guenin/Talbot/Briere/Cliché for anything really.
 

PWJunior

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What do you think another team will give up for Strait? The Islanders tricked Philly last season, Philly scouted AMac badly and thought he was a good d-man. Maybe the same scenario is possible this season.

I don't think the Isles tricked Philly since AMac was one of the biggest names available and they were very desperate for a d-man. It's all on them for giving him that contract though.

I don't think Strait would return anything significant, maybe a mid-round pick which would be a plus since we got him for nothing. I'm hoping that Toronto trades Phaneuf to someone and then picks up Strait to fill a temporary void and he helps their tank.
 

seabass45

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I don't think Strait gets dealt. The way that cappy talks about him leads me to believe that they think he's more valuable than he really is.

Cappy loves players who look like they work hahhhd. The problem is that Strait has to work really hard because he's not good.
 

enigmatic

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Seems like Blues fans aren't happy about losing Letunov so I guess he's pretty decent.

6'3" russian center.....a little over a PPG in the USHL this season...looks like he is going to play at BU next season....interesting.....doesnt seem to be an elite prospect, but looks like a big kid with potential

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233028

off topic: my work ethic is fantastic today at my desk :sarcasm:
 

Dutch Frost

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Welcome PR nightmare. Innocent or not.

PR Nightmare??!?! lol no one cares about Hockey in NYC bro.. He would be blurbon pg 23 in any article and besides the DA isnt pressing charges and the wife denies it.

No evidence, my only concern is he game ready or was he sitting on his butt playing xbox.
 

danteipp

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Right now I'm not sure who's worse Snow or Alderson?

Lol, this is a little off topic but I have to respond since the facts aren't even in question on who has done the better overall job between Snow vs. Alderson.

Snow and his staff took a team completely devoid of high-end talent and with no core or minor league system, tore it down and built it back up into a young and exciting team with lots of depth in the system from scratch.

To be fair, Alderson has done some good things too, however, he is a steward and not an innovator. The best thing he has done is trade away existing veteran talent like R.A. Dickey (for TDA and Noah Syndergaard) and Carlos Beltran (Zack Wheeler) to bring in some high-quality pieces and drafted/signed some complementary players. Although he should have done the same with Reyes once he knew he couldn't resign him. That was a wasted opportunity that probably set the Mets rebuild back by a year.

Otherwise look at all of the players that were on the Mets roster or brought into the system before Alderson and his team arrived:

- Existing players on the roster before Alderson include: David Wright, Daniel Murphy, Lucas Duda, Jon Niese, Dillon Gee, Bobby Parnell, Ruben Tejada and Kirk Nieuwenhuis.
- Matt Harvey, Jacob deGrom, Matt den Dekker, Josh Edgin and Erik Goeddel, were all part of Omar's last draft (2010) and Steven Matz was taken the year prior (2009); and
- Familia, Meija, Wilmer Flores and Juan Lagares were all signed as non-drafted free agents before Alderson's regime took over.

Alderson and his team brought in Bartolo Colon, Curtis Granderson and Michael Cuddyer via free agency, and the jury is still out on those signings. At best they are placeholders five years into a rebuild. Vic Black and Dilson Herrera were acquired via trade for Marlon Byrd and John Buck and that deal could potentially be a steal. Rafael Montero was also signed and might be a player and maybe Brandon Nimmo and Conforto work out in the OF but they have a long way to go. Meanwhile many other smaller free agents were complete busts.

Snow and his team have easily outpaced Alderson and his team so far on roster and system building IMHO. The overall body of work and results (the Isles should be in the playoffs for the second time in three years) is just not comparable. And I am a huge Mets fan truly hoping for the best, but I see a pitching-heavy team with a lot of offensive flaws and a front office who has gotten lucky that talent already in the system is maturing to keep them afloat.
 

PWJunior

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Cappy loves players who look like they work hahhhd. The problem is that Strait has to work really hard because he's not good.

I think we're stuck with Strait, but I would laugh really hard if Snow pulled a Billy Beane and traded him. It would lend truth to the showcasing talk.

Plus, I feel bad for Donovan. It can't be easy being a perma-press boxer and not even getting a chance once in a while to play.

#freeDonovan
 

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