GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread -- To trade or not to trade...

[dubplatepressure]

Really? I dont see many hater posts with him. Those normally focus on Marner.

Yet all I ever see is "fire Engvall into the sun" and constant threads about how he doesn't even deserve to be on the team.

He's actually a good player.

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[Mickey Marner]

Deal would be done if that were the case. Unless his injury is the hold up.

 

[SprDaVE]

This feels like the start of something bad... Francis and The Kraken are not off to a hot start.

 

[zeke]

This feels like the start of something bad... Francis and The Kraken are not off to a hot start.

Yeah not a great debut for their capologist too now.

 

[Maplebeasts]

This feels like the start of something bad... Francis and The Kraken are not off to a hot start.

Yikes.

 

[dubplatepressure]

An ugly feature of human nature is to identify and actively undermine the weakest/most-outsider/easiest-target within a group. I guess Engvall is that player this season.

As far as I'm concerned, Engvall as a 3rd liner isn't ideal yet he's not in over his head. And on paper he's going to be depth for that kind of role anyways.

I don't feel that I suffer from whatever you are describing here. I, like many others from what it seems, neither "like" nor "hate" Engvall. IMO he is a serviceable 4th line player. He could develop into more but to do that he would either need to 1) improve with the puck or 2) become more physical. Otherwise, he's going to sit at that 4th line / replacement level IMO.

 

[Superstar]

This feels like the start of something bad... Francis and The Kraken are not off to a hot start.

I guess when you don't have Pridham working for you, lol...

 

[BertCorbeau]

This feels like the start of something bad... Francis and The Kraken are not off to a hot start.

A lot of WTF’s coming from them already.. If I were a Seattle fan I wouldn’t hold my breathe on a Vegas type debut season.

Could be some early rough times.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Apparently Reinhart is looking at a deal between $6-$7 AAV .. Yowza

 

[jaric1862]

Gudbranson?

Added to Simmonds, Ritchie and Gabriel

Coachcorner gonna cry tears of joy

Only issue is Gudbranson has really started to slow down. Injuries have really caught up to him.

 

[pspot]

Would love to get Adam lowry from jers for 3c .big nasty and great on fo

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Pretty sure the kraken have aligned themselves up for the 22 and 23 drafts which from most accounts are suppose to be deep with a few elite or better . I hate the term generational

 

[Warden of the North]

Rielly Smith? The first will practically be a 2nd. That seems like a terrible return for the Sabres.

Hope they go for it, lol

 

[TheFloater]

Apparently Reinhart is looking at a deal between $6-$7 AAV .. Yowza

I was just looking at Florida's cap situation and it is going to get ugly starting next year. They've got $6.5 mil in buyout penalty next year and Barkov to deal with along with a number of other forwards. The next year Weegar, Knight and Huberdeau are up. All with a $10MM underperforming goalie, large raises given to other players this summer and they still need to sign Reinhart. They look fine this year cap-wise, but I think something will have to give.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Mckay]

That's kind of embarrassing for who ever wrote up that contract. It was obviously a simple fix, but shouldn't they know the rules beforehand? I'd have more understanding if the CBA was relatively new, but it has been in effect many years.

 

[Deebo]

That's kind of embarrassing for who ever wrote up that contract. It was obviously a simple fix, but shouldn't they know the rules beforehand? I'd have more understanding if the CBA was relatively new, but it has been in effect many years.

I looked up the variability rules and made a spreadsheet to check if a contract violated them in under 10 minutes.

 

[Dreakmur]

Apparently Reinhart is looking at a deal between $6-$7 AAV .. Yowza

He's about as good as Nylander, so why shouldn't he get a similar contract?

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

I looked up the variability rules and made a spreadsheet to check if a contract violated them in under 10 minutes.

All you need is a blog and some team will hire you as a math quiz capologist.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Wonder if the Leafs' are done their moves, pending any trades that might come to fruition.

I'd like a depth d-man but perhaps their plan is to roll out Sandin, Lily, and Dermott to see how they fare. If needed, then go to the market for one.

Still would like Chara to provide some depth and mentorship back there.

 

[zeke]

Wonder if the Leafs' are done their moves, pending any trades that might come to fruition.

I'd like a depth d-man but perhaps their plan is to roll out Sandin, Lily, and Dermott to see how they fare. If needed, then go to the market for one.

Still would like Chara to provide some depth and mentorship back there.

i'm at the point where i'm hoping we're done. I'd rather our kids get a real shot rather than some retreads.

IF we do add another solid guy, like a chara or something, I would hope that would lead to a trade to upgrade the roster somewhere else while keeping spots open for the kids still.

 

[BertCorbeau]

i'm at the point where i'm hoping we're done. I'd rather our kids get a real shot rather than some retreads.

IF we do add another solid guy, like a chara or something, I would hope that would lead to a trade to upgrade the roster somewhere else while keeping spots open for the kids still.

Yeah I'm thinking they roll with the kids and, if needed, they can add closer to the deadline. Dermott should be able to play a good full time roll and carry the bottom pair with Sandin and Liljegren rotating in .. If he can't, it's an indication that we may need to move on from him.

 

[SprDaVE]

Wonder if the Leafs' are done their moves, pending any trades that might come to fruition.

I'd like a depth d-man but perhaps their plan is to roll out Sandin, Lily, and Dermott to see how they fare. If needed, then go to the market for one.

Still would like Chara to provide some depth and mentorship back there.

I wouldn't really expect much more than Engvall for a pick/prospect kind of trade.

I'd much rather give the ball to Sandin, Dermott and Liljegren instead of blocking them with a bad/average veteran.

I think Menell, Biega, Dahlstrom and Kivihalme is a decent amount of "veteran" depth you can call-up from the Marlies. They have plenty of pro experience and they bring different skillsets based on need.

The only defenseman left over in free agency that would be really solid on a cheap deal is Jason Demers. I think he would be underrated just like Bogosian was. I'd throw a PTO to Jordie Benn to see how much game he has left. Little to no interest in Chara myself.

 

[nuck]

Wonder if the Leafs' are done their moves, pending any trades that might come to fruition.

I'd like a depth d-man but perhaps their plan is to roll out Sandin, Lily, and Dermott to see how they fare. If needed, then go to the market for one.

Still would like Chara to provide some depth and mentorship back there.

Chara is a risk I think. I would be afraid the history/veteran respect angle that got Jumbo and Simmonds used incorrectly would extend to Z even if his game had finally gone south. However I do see he was 5th in minutes for the Caps D so he appears to have adapted to less use. Maybe if they intend to move Dermott so he isn't in being played in front of two young LD it could work.

 

[kb]

i'm at the point where i'm hoping we're done. I'd rather our kids get a real shot rather than some retreads.

IF we do add another solid guy, like a chara or something, I would hope that would lead to a trade to upgrade the roster somewhere else while keeping spots open for the kids still.

Sign Chara for a million or so, and then package Dermott and Kerfoot for upgrades up front. Opens up cap room, and allows one of the kids to play at least.