GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - The Madness Continues

[flying v 604]

I read lots of posts, don’t agree with many of them, but why anyone would self censor themselves is beyond me.

It fits in line with the way this generation cancels anything that doesn't agree with their views or triggers them in anyway.

 

[Budz]

There will be a trade coming IMO…

 

[Mitch nylander]

We have enough cap space to run -

Ritchie - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Bunting - Spezza - Simmonds
Engvall

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin- Dermott

Mrazek/Campbell

This is a pretty decent lineup.

I'd trade Engvall for a late pick. Use Brooks, and one of Menell/Liljegren as an extra. Brooks requires waivers next year and I'd prefer not to lose him for nothing. Or even sign one of Hutton/Koekkoek for 750-850k to use as a 7d.

 

[Brobust]

Given GM's historical irresponsibility and lack of forethought I think it's quite possible that next offseason more resembles last than this one in terms of willingness to shell out big. I think that the liquidity created by a league wide increase in cap supply of 81.5m (Seattle joining) created a bubble of spending no different than if the cap had gone up by ~2.5 million. There's no expansion team coming next season, so if the cap remains flat its hard to see where the money will come from

So you think the spending this offseason is because of the payout from Seattle?

But they took massive losses over the past year and a half.

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

We have enough cap space to run -

Ritchie - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Bunting - Spezza - Simmonds
Engvall

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin- Dermott

Mrazek/Campbell

This is a pretty decent lineup.

It looks more balanced than last year..

 

[LeafSteel]

What the what?????

Now where is Thornton going to slot in next season????

 

[Mitch nylander]

Leafs net lineup changes

In -
Forwards
Nick Ritchie
Odrej Kase
Michael Bunting
David Kampf
Kirill Semyonov
Michael Amadio
Kurtis Gabriel
Josh Ho-Sang (PTO)
Alex Steeves
Pavel Gogolev
Brett Seney

Defence
Brennan Menell
Alex Biega
Carl Dahltrom

Goalies-
Petr Mrazek
Erik Kahlgren

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Out -
Forwards -
Zach Hyman
Nick Foligno
Alex Galchenyuk
Joe Thornton
Scott Sabourin
Nick Petan
Kenny Agostino
Kalle Kosilla

Defence -
Zach Bogosian
Calle Rosen
Ben Hutton

Goalies -
Fredrik Andersen
David Rittich

Overall, we have more depth this year than last year in my eyes. However, we didn't really get Zach Hyman replacement. We will have to hope one of Ritchie/Kase can replicate.

 

[SprDaVE]

We have enough cap space to run -

Ritchie - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Bunting - Spezza - Simmonds
Engvall

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin- Dermott

Mrazek/Campbell

This is a pretty decent lineup.

I'd trade Engvall for a late pick. Use Brooks, and one of Menell/Liljegren as an extra. Brooks requires waivers next year and I'd prefer not to lose him for nothing.

More or less my lineup. It's very versatile that I have no idea what to expect from Keefe. Engvall and/or Kerfoot do feel like they will be traded. They legitimately can have a 23 man roster this season.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs went and signed someone like Bozak or Zajac to a near league minimum if they keep going through the off-season unsigned. I think Bozak would be awesome to get back in particular.

I'd also keep an eye on Galchenyuk but seems like a tough fit now.

 

[OVO16]

Nick Ritchie is a one tough hombre. People don't take liberties on the ice when he's on.

This is the type of grit I was looking for.

 

[rumman]

It fits in line with the way this generation cancels anything that doesn't agree with their views or triggers them in anyway.

Sad if true, but I’m not surprised.

 

[rumman]

Looks like we did sign him…

Hope this means a end of the Tatar rumours?

 

[Nylander88]

Hard now not to like this off-season by Dubas.
Walked away from overpaying Zach Hyman, as hard as that probably was to do. I think we all loved him, but not his ask.
Other than Spezza & Simmonds, who clearly we value their games and likely more so their locker room voices...we brought in all guys that are only in their mid 20s. We brought in youth, and all guys that are strong skaters. Slowest of the bunch is likely Ritchie, but he's not Thornton slow.
Brought in guys who are goo two way players (Kampf, Kase) for those tight checking affairs.
And lastly, we brought in toughness. If Gabriel dresses for a game...Ritchie, Simmonds, Gabriel is three big body, legit tough guys up front. This team is much better prepared to handle themselves when it matters. I think we may have a worse regular season, but that we'll be better equipped come playoff time. Even Bunting likes to play a "rat" style game.
All in all, I'd say good job Dubas. I like what we've done for bargain shopping.

 

[rumman]

What the what?????

Now where is Thornton going to slot in next season????

Jumbo’s going to retire and become AM’s valet.

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

I personally wouldn't move Kerfoot. I think being a C/LW is far too valuable compared to bringing in another winger. We can give every opportunity to David Kampf-Spezza-Brooks to take control of the 3-4C roles. I really like having the ability to use Kerfoot as 3C if the line-up goes stale. If anything I'd love for us to bring in Zajac, Bozak type center to round out the line-up. I think we're done adding wingers after picking up Kase, Bunting, Ritchie and having the ability to put Nylander/Kerfoot on LW.

Kerfoot is the LW IMO and should be given a shot. At worst, there always is the trade deadline.

 

[rumman]

Hard now not to like this off-season by Dubas.
Walked away from overpaying Zach Hyman, as hard as that probably was to do. I think we all loved him, but not his ask.
Other than Spezza & Simmonds, who clearly we value their games and likely more so their locker room voices...we brought in all guys that are only in their mid 20s. We brought in youth, and all guys that are strong skaters. Slowest of the bunch is likely Ritchie, but he's not Thornton slow.
Brought in guys who are goo two way players (Kampf, Kase) for those tight checking affairs.
And lastly, we brought in toughness. If Gabriel dresses for a game...Ritchie, Simmonds, Gabriel is three big body, legit tough guys up front. This team is much better prepared to handle themselves when it matters. I think we may have a worse regular season, but that we'll be better equipped come playoff time. Even Bunting likes to play a "rat" style game.
All in all, I'd say good job Dubas. I like what we've done for bargain shopping.

Has Dubas finally realized that skill and skill alone wins you nothing? Boy some posters are going to be pissed with all the “grit” he’s acquired, it was there main reason for the collapse against the Habs. Will they still be upset that the GM continues to listen to the fanbase and their demands for more grit?

 

[smitty10]

We have enough cap space to run -

Ritchie - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Bunting - Spezza - Simmonds
Engvall

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin- Dermott

Mrazek/Campbell

This is a pretty decent lineup.

I'd trade Engvall for a late pick. Use Brooks, and one of Menell/Liljegren as an extra. Brooks requires waivers next year and I'd prefer not to lose him for nothing. Or even sign one of Hutton/Koekkoek for 750-850k to use as a 7d.

This is not a great lineup. We've seen how Kerfoot has struggled playing in the top 6 on the wing and David Kampf is a defensive center. He has no business playing above the 4th line on a regular basis unless it's for match-up purposes.

Dubas needs to make another move or 2. This roster is significantly worse than last year's.

Ideally, Dubas is able to move Kerfoot and Engvall which would free up $4.75m that could be used to add true tertiary scoring and a cheaper 3rd line C. Get a guy like Marcus Johansson (would bring roughly the same to the table as Kerfoot) at $2m and then try and get a guy like Tatar for the remaining $2.75m would provide a lot more to this squad than Kerfoot and Engvall do at their price.

Ritchie-Matthews-Marner
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander
Tatar-Johansson-Mikheyev
Simmonds-Kampf-Spezza

 

[Nylander88]

Has Dubas finally realized that skill and skill alone wins you nothing? Boy some posters are going to be pissed with all the “grit” he’s acquired, it was there main reason for the collapse against the Habs. Will they still be upset that the GM continues to listen to the fanbase and their demands for more grit?

He's shown ability to learn and adapt as a young GM. I'm not a fan boy, and I'm not anti-dubas. He's made mistakes in my eyes for sure, but he's shown he is willing to pivot. Last year we tried it with some added grit, but they were either too old (like Thornton), or they had no back-up, like Simmonds. Foligno was a good thought, but a failed experiment ultimately. What's Dubas do? Gets even tougher, but this time, with mid 20s guys instead of mid 30s + guys. Mrazek swapped for Andersen is a win imo. Better goalie, cheaper contract, used to being a tandem. Great partner for Soupy. Never going to have that feeling of playing "the back-up" this season. Ritchie & Kase swapped for Foligno, calling that a win too. The two guys we have are combined cheaper, and bring multiple elements. Hyman was never tough, just played hard. Bunting is going to try his best to replace that. Difference being 950k compared to 5.5mil. Wherever he falls short of replicating Hyman, will be at least warranted. Gabriel in for Thornton, Gabriel skates better and is a tough tough customer. Thornton brought little of nothing outside of a great locker room guy. So if call that a win too. When you break everything down, I actually think we're maybe not as sexy on paper, but better equipped to handle tough games.

 

[rumman]

He's shown ability to learn and adapt as a young GM. I'm not a fan boy, and I'm not anti-dubas. He's made mistakes in my eyes for sure, but he's shown he is willing to pivot. Last year we tried it with some added grit, but they were either too old (like Thornton), or they had no back-up, like Simmonds. Foligno was a good thought, but a failed experiment ultimately. What's Dubas do? Gets even tougher, but this time, with mid 20s guys instead of mid 30s + guys. Mrazek swapped for Andersen is a win imo. Better goalie, cheaper contract, used to being a tandem. Great partner for Soupy. Never going to have that feeling of playing "the back-up" this season. Ritchie & Kase swapped for Foligno, calling that a win too. The two guys we have are combined cheaper, and bring multiple elements. Hyman was never tough, just played hard. Bunting is going to try his best to replace that. Difference being 950k compared to 5.5mil. Wherever he falls short of replicating Hyman, will be at least warranted. Gabriel in for Thornton, Gabriel skates better and is a tough tough customer. Thornton brought little of nothing outside of a great locker room guy. So if call that a win too. When you break everything down, I actually think we're maybe not as sexy on paper, but better equipped to handle tough games.

I agree that younger grit is a smart move, too bad he didn’t go that direction last season, better late than never I guess?

 

[The Podium]

Has Dubas finally realized that skill and skill alone wins you nothing? Boy some posters are going to be pissed with all the “grit” he’s acquired, it was there main reason for the collapse against the Habs. Will they still be upset that the GM continues to listen to the fanbase and their demands for more grit?

Grit wasnt the reason they collapsed against the Habs and grit wont be the reason why they win.

This team lives and dies by how well Marner and Matthews performs. That also isnt exclusive to Toronto alone. Tampa doesnt win the cup if Point, Kucherov and Vasi arent their best players.

Yes, a balanced line up with skill and grit is ideal, but grit isnt winning them anymore games this year and didnt lose them any games last year.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Grit wasnt the reason they collapsed against the Habs and grit wont be the reason why they win.

This team lives and dies by how well Marner and Matthews performs. That also isnt exclusive to Toronto alone. Tampa doesnt win the cup if Point, Kucherov and Vasi arent their best players.

Yes, a balanced line up with skill and grit is ideal, but grit isnt winning them anymore games this year and didnt lose them any games last year.

I still believe that Tavares would have been the difference in at least one of those close games when we had the Habs by the throat. Unfortunately he wasn’t there to be just that.

This team certainly looks a lot tougher to play against, while keeping its high end scoring ability. Better goalie tandem, as well.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

We added more grit that's for sure. Bunting is a pest and Ritchie is one big boy. Losing hyman sucks but would never want to pay his ask. This team is more balanced than last. Hopefully they gel well. Sucks that we will lose rielly for nothing though.