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Amadeus said:
Spencer Knight ? He's Florida's goalie of the future. No way they're dealing him.
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They are in a similar spot to where they need to move Knight or Bob sooner than later

same thing with us with Muzzin and Sandin.
 
Cor said:
Colin White could be an interesting buy-low player now that he’s being bought out.
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100%, I’d be all over that. Doubt he would be expensive to sign and he can play either center or right wing. Would be a good opportunity for him to try and rejuvenate his career here in Toronto.
 
deprw said:
I think at the moment you should be asking as GM will this helps us winning the next one? In player quality they lost their #2 defenseman for nothing (or cap dump), so probably then answer for the season 2022-2023 is it doesn't help.

Same thing applies here, if we trade Tavares or Muzzin. Does it help or not? We're not in immediate cap trouble, which is good planning from our front office. We can make calculated decisions without being forced to dump our #2 D or #2 C.

It's positive thing not negative.
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CURRENT CAP SPACE
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: $6,444,384
DEADLINE CAP SPACE
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: $29,966,386
TODAYS CAP HIT
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: $76,055,616
ROSTER SIZE: 18/23

6.4 m for 5 players and no number one goalie, they are in immediate cap trouble!!!!!!!
 
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deprw said:
That is one good solution and I think it's anticipated. Will see how this off-season turns out once things get going. I'm just arguing that we're toying with the idea about trading Muzzin away as copycat move. Though Tampa didn't do that move because they wanted to and I think he had season or two left in him, that would help them win the Stanley Cup. So I don't think that is comparable to our situation, where we should look our team and our solutions from our viewpoint. Tampa were forced and were not.

If we want to dump Muzzin I think best option is to do it next summer and do that shuffle by trading away players that have value to gain assets, which can be turned into players and their cap space used for UFAs.

Every summer we demand these moves and when we make those we moan in Kadri case and feel pretty happy that we didn't pull the trigger like in Marner case.

One thing to remember that we might not have that much room to grow but all of our main competitors will become weaker after this off-season, so even if we can keep our team and hopefully get one upgrade, that might be enough. Might be, but still. Florida, Tampa, Avs, Bruins everyone will bleed assets.
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Yes but Tampa has Cal Foote stepping in not Justin Holl type players
 
Americanadian said:
Sandin for Knight could make a lot of sense. Sandin is 1 year older. FLA has Bobrovsky for 4 more years. Their LHD depth is Forsling/Carlsson. Weegar plays LD but he is UFA next year. Leafs get a 21 year old goalie who has put up decent results but hasn't broken out yet. They could pair him with Fleury this year if Fleury is willing to come to Toronto.
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Florida will trade Bobrovsky and eat salary or sweeten the deal before they trade knight, especially for sandin.

kb said:
So worse?
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yes the Leafs have no defenceman in their system near foote.

kb said:
Uh, no. They only play with 20 or 21 on the roster.

Same thing every year.
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learn the game each team carries a 23 man rodter they dress 20 per game.

kb said:
Uh, no. They only play with 20 or 21 on the roster.

Same thing every year.
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23-player

Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league's regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.
https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.

The Business of the Game: Roster Limits - NHL.com​

https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.
 
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LBloor said:
Florida will trade Bobrovsky and eat salary or sweeten the deal before they trade knight, especially for sandin.


yes the Leafs have no defenceman in their system near foote.


learn the game each team carries a 23 man rodter they dress 20 per game.


23-player

Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league's regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.
https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.

The Business of the Game: Roster Limits - NHL.com​

https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.
Hockey 101, this is why leaf fans are voted the worst each year.
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23 is the max, there is no minimum. They absolutely play with 20-21 players on the roster and have for a couple years to juggle cap hits going up and down or for injuries as well. It’s not the perfect situation but it’s by no means a bad spot to be in.
 
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dangomon said:
23 is the max, there is no minimum. They absolutely play with 20-21 players on the roster and have for a couple years to juggle cap hits going up and down or for injuries as well. It’s not the perfect situation but it’s by no means a bad spot to be in.

Yikes.
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lmao. no team carries under 23 once the season starts. but ok you go with your theory.
 
The leafs have the advantage of the Marlies being in the same city so they can carry 20/21 man roster while they juggle the cap.
 
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LBloor said:
Florida will trade Bobrovsky and eat salary or sweeten the deal before they trade knight, especially for sandin.


yes the Leafs have no defenceman in their system near foote.


learn the game each team carries a 23 man rodter they dress 20 per game.


23-player

Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league's regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.
https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.

The Business of the Game: Roster Limits - NHL.com​

https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.
Hockey 101, this is why leaf fans are voted the worst each year.
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You might be wrong on every point, very impressive considering the effort to break up quotes like that.
 
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LBloor said:
Florida will trade Bobrovsky and eat salary or sweeten the deal before they trade knight, especially for sandin.


yes the Leafs have no defenceman in their system near foote.


learn the game each team carries a 23 man rodter they dress 20 per game.


23-player

Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league's regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.
https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.

The Business of the Game: Roster Limits - NHL.com​

https://www.nhl.com/predators/news/the-business-of-the-game-roster-limits/c-439739#:~:text=Teams have four different “roster,90-player maximum reserve list.
Hockey 101, this is why leaf fans are voted the worst each year.
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Very few, if any, teams in the NHL use 23 man rosters. Most have 21. Some may have 22. You don't need to go to the maximum.

The Leafs have already graduated most of their Foote-level prospects out of their system already, not that Foote has been all that impressive. He has mostly been used as a 6/7 and has struggled even in that role to this point. Liljegren and Sandin are far ahead of him right now, and our next top defenseman (Niemela) is 4 years younger than him. The rest of our defensemen prospects are 4th round picks or later, so I would hope that a former teens pick is progressing better than them.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
Very few, if any, teams in the NHL use 23 man rosters. Most have 21. Some may have 22. You don't need to go to the maximum.

The Leafs have already graduated most of their Foote-level prospects out of their system already, not that Foote has been all that impressive. He has mostly been used as a 6/7 and has struggled even in that role to this point. Liljegren and Sandin are far ahead of him right now, and our next top defenseman (Niemela) is 4 years younger than him. The rest of our defensemen prospects are 4th round picks or later, so I would hope that a former teens pick is progressing better than them.
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6-7 on a stanley cup winning team not a first round loser every year.
 
Duffman955 said:
Rumor roundup of players we are linked to:

Forwards:
Larsson, Reese, Giroux, Deslauriers

Goalies:
MAF, Husso, Blackwood

Feel free to add to the list
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Who's Reese?? Reese Johnson from Chicago? Jamieson Rees the prospect from Carolina? Zach Aston-Reese the analytic darling who isn't a very good player from Anaheim?
 
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