Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[OVO16]

If we can clear some cap space, Valeri Nichushkin and Nikita Zadorov would be my top UFA targets. Both huge dude who are elite skaters and play straight-line hockey.

I personally wouldn't mind Zadorov but let's face it he's going to be healthy scratch 5 games into the season.

This fanbase will want him gone as soon as he makes 1 mistake or takes 1 stupid penalty, which he has a tendency to do so considering he plays on the edge.

You also need the proper coach/system for players like Zadorov to thrive. Daryll Sutter loves his big mean guys. Keefe and his analytical style isn't a fit for Zadorov.

Lets face it, Lucic/Gubrandson/Zadorov/Ritchie are players who wouldn't be in the leafs lineup today because Corsi

 

[Dreakmur]

Who's worth more? Greenway or Hartman?

Because it's clear Minnesota needs changes. They have too much brawn and little skill. Leafs have too many finness forwards and little brawn.

I think Minny and Toronto makes good trade partners.

I know I'd pay more for Hartman. Minnesota had to start eating the Suter/Parise buy-outs next year, so the have to cut salary. Downgrading from Hartman at 1.7 to Kerfoot at 3.5 isn't smart.

Greenway might work. He's starting a new 3.0 contract and he does play the exact kind of game that would work well beside Tavares. One year of Kerfoot likely isn't enough to get 3 years of Greenway, so I think we're still adding something of value.

 

[Kiwi]

More or less what I think too. Go after one quality player and maybe a goaltender if there's a fit, then just fill out your roster with a lot of youth and energy players. It's not like the Leafs need to sign a ton of players, their roster is pretty set.

I don't see any way Mrazek is back and I think Kerfoot should be replaced.



He is.

Yeah, up front we have Anderson, Abruzzese, Steeves, Robertson and Douglas looking for opportunities and on the backend Kral and Neimela in house and you could get a Pysyk, Benning or Miller type #6-#7D for league min

My plan would be to let Mik go to UFA, Campbell can go to UFA if he wants much more than Mrazek, I'd keep Gio depending on price (anything over 1.5M and he walks to), Spezza can stay if he takes league min and agrees to play about 50% of the games

Trade Kerfoot, Holl and Engvall (depending on what he wants) and Mrazek if I can find anybody to take him

I'd also bury one of Clifford or Simmonds to

 

[Dreakmur]

I personally wouldn't mind Zadorov but let's face it he's going to be healthy scratch 5 games into the season.

This fanbase will want him gone as soon as he makes 1 mistake or takes 1 stupid penalty, which he has a tendency to do so considering he plays on the edge.

You also need the proper coach/system for players like Zadorov to thrive. Daryll Sutter loves his big mean guys. Keefe and his analytical style isn't a fit for Zadorov.

Lets face it, Lucic/Gubrandson/Zadorov/Ritchie are players who wouldn't be in the leafs lineup today because Corsi

First of all, I'm assuming Keefe is gone. He's horrible.

Fans can usually live with mistakes when there's an upside. A few give-aways and penalties are worth it if you can terrify some opponents.

 

[Dreakmur]

Yeah, up front we have Anderson, Abruzzese, Steeves, Robertson and Douglas looking for opportunities and on the backend Kral and Neimela in house and you could get a Pysyk, Benning or Miller type #6-#7D for league min

My plan would be to let Mik go to UFA, Campbell can go to UFA if he wants much more than Mrazek, I'd keep Gio depending on price (anything over 1.5M and he walks to), Spezza can stay if he takes league min and agrees to play about 50% of the games

Trade Kerfoot, Holl and Engvall (depending on what he wants) and Mrazek if I can find anybody to take him

I'd also bury one of Clifford or Simmonds to

Sounds reasonable, though I don't see many spots for Marlies on a contending team. I think Douglas has the inside lane on the 4C slot. There's probably 1 spot open for an offensive type - so Robertson, Steeves and Abruzzese can fight over that, though I'm not sure any of them sticks even given the chance. There might be an open spot for a defensive type - which Anderson could grab, and I think he sticks if he gets a shot.

 

[Kiwi]

Sounds reasonable, though I don't see many spots for Marlies on a contending team. I think Douglas has the inside lane on the 4C slot. There's probably 1 spot open for an offensive type - so Robertson, Steeves and Abruzzese can fight over that, though I'm not sure any of them sticks even given the chance. There might be an open spot for a defensive type - which Anderson could grab, and I think he sticks if he gets a shot.

Your probably right but I've got to the point where I'm willing to take some pain early to try getting more kids comfortable in our lineup for later in the season

There cheap to so if we want to chase a goaltender or center (or both although that will be tight) we can to

We've filled our lower lineup roles with older guys but I'm thinking younger, faster and more physicality consistently over the season

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I think Raffl would be a solid 4th liner for us, dude played hard for the Stars in the playoffs. Probably could get him for around 1-1.5 mil.

 

[Menzinger]

Who's worth more? Greenway or Hartman?

Because it's clear Minnesota needs changes. They have too much brawn and little skill. Leafs have too many finness forwards and little brawn.

I think Minny and Toronto makes good trade partners.


Yeah. Here's hoping he's our permanent 4th line Center for a long time. I dont want a guy who's going in and out of the lineup based on matchups.

For once I'd like a permanent young physical player in our bottom 6 moving forward.

The issue with the Wild is they may need skill, but they need ultra cheap players. If they trade a player for a player, they will want the cheaper one returning to them

 

[Dreakmur]

Your probably right but I've got to the point where I'm willing to take some pain early to try getting more kids comfortable in our lineup for later in the season

It's going to very interesting to see what they do.

I think it's important to try to maximize Tavares, which is going to require a different kind of build on that line. His skating is starting to make him less effective in open ice, but he's still elite in the dirty areas. He's not an individual player, but rather a combination player, so he needs guys that are going to work with him.

Another posted brought up Jordan Greenway, and I think that's probably a good target. He's a big body, but more importantly, he's a very smart offensive player who also plays the kind of methodical cycling game as Tavares.

Valeri Nichushkin would be a good fit there too, but he's getting a sizable contract as a UFA. Andrew Copp too.

If we want to go for some more bargain-types, Nicolas Roy is a likely cap casualty in Vegas. Same for Keegan Kolesar.

There cheap to so if we want to chase a goaltender or center (or both although that will be tight) we can to

I think we're good at C. Kampf apparently did have the offensive upside that I thought he might. Even chipping in 10 goals, he's am elite 3C.

Other than Gibson (who costs Nylander), are there any goalies worth throwing money at?

We've filled our lower lineup roles with older guys but I'm thinking younger, faster and more physicality consistently over the season

Youth would be ideal, though I think we need more of an identity from the bottom of the line-up. Too many guys who are just kind of there.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Who's worth more? Greenway or Hartman?

Because it's clear Minnesota needs changes. They have too much brawn and little skill. Leafs have too many finness forwards and little brawn.

I think Minny and Toronto makes good trade partners.


Yeah. Here's hoping he's our permanent 4th line Center for a long time. I dont want a guy who's going in and out of the lineup based on matchups.

For once I'd like a permanent young physical player in our bottom 6 moving forward.

Greenway was just rewarded with a 3 years extension to keep Minnesota's grief line together two months ago. They aren't trading greenway.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Gotcha. Yeah it's early so who knows.

Leafs have a lot of parts, but they really need to find quality.

Letang would be fun.

Rielly-Liljegren
Gio/Muzz-Letang
Sandin-Brodie

Score all the goals.

 

[Shooter2x]

Gio has insane genetics and will hold down third paid for at least 2 more years. Rock solid play I was very impressed.

I swear if he clean shaved all that grey off he'd look 25. Takes good care of himself

They need to lock him up.

 

[Gabriel426]

Gio has insane genetics and will hold down third paid for at least 2 more years. Rock solid play I was very impressed.

I swear if he clean shaved all that grey off he'd look 25. Takes good care of himself

They need to lock him up.

Locking Gio will also help Muz too. Bc Gio can take some tough matchup and PK mins from Muz.

 

[SprDaVE]

Yeah, up front we have Anderson, Abruzzese, Steeves, Robertson and Douglas looking for opportunities and on the backend Kral and Neimela in house and you could get a Pysyk, Benning or Miller type #6-#7D for league min

My plan would be to let Mik go to UFA, Campbell can go to UFA if he wants much more than Mrazek, I'd keep Gio depending on price (anything over 1.5M and he walks to), Spezza can stay if he takes league min and agrees to play about 50% of the games

Trade Kerfoot, Holl and Engvall (depending on what he wants) and Mrazek if I can find anybody to take him

I'd also bury one of Clifford or Simmonds to

I wouldn't let Engvall go. 15 goals in his role and minutes is pretty damn good for his first full season. I just don't see how Campbell walks either but I know the Leafs love Kuemper, so maybe they wait for that to shake out.

To be honest, the UFA market is pretty average this off-season. There are decent amount of forwards to target that would fit well but the defensemen list is pretty awful so I don't think trading Holl would be wise either unless the return is too good.

Clifford and Simmonds are spare parts for sure.

If the Leafs don't believe in their young players, they should trade them for value before they lose their waiver exemption or bomb their values. This is the window. Time to get aggressive.

 

[Stigma]

Lets face it, our core aint changing. It's just unrealistic. What we need to do is completely change the dynamic and style of our bottom 6. Something that Dubas promised 2 seasons ago but failed to do.

Here's what I would do.

A trade involving Kerfoot and Hartman. Let Spezza/Clifford/Engvall/Kase all walk. I'd bring back Simmonds but only as a 13th forward for depth. Or else, he can go too.

Sign Nick Paul with whatever cap space you have and have Curtis Douglas make the team. Bring back Mikheyev because his Speed is essential. Sign Boris Katchouk (soo hoo connection) for cheap. He's a gritty and speedy forward with offensive potential.

Bunting - Mathews - Marner
Nick Paul - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kampf - Hartman
Katchouk - Douglas - Blackwell

I like some of these ideas. Katchouk is an under-the-radar gritty bottom 6 guy. He had a breakout AHL season last year, but didn't do that much at the NHL level this year. He's a good "gamble" pickup.

 

[Americanadian]

I just posted this in the wrong thread.

Trade Muzzin for Sean Walker.

Muzzin will probably only accept a trade if it's to LA. LA needs LHD and has a glut of RHD. Walker/Muzzin both have 2 years remaining on their contracts. Both are probably neutral assets at this point.

Trade Mrazek and Robertson to Chicago for Mitchell (or Phillips/Regula).

Mrazek has a 10 team NTC which probably eliminates most non-playoff teams or non-favorable locations. I'm taking a wild guess that Chicago is not on the list. Chicago has no goalies under contract for next season and a lot of cap space. Robertson is the sweetener for taking Mrazek. Mitchell is in the trade to balance it out - he provides the Leafs an NHL ready D with 1 more year on his ELC. This feels like a steep price to pay to get rid of Mrazek. I have no clue what it will actually take. Phillips/Regula provide the same position but different age/value.

Trade Kerfoot to WSH for Hathaway.

Washington is at the very end of their window. Kerfoot gives them offense higher in the lineup. Hathaway saves the Leafs 2M while rounding out a checking 4th line.

Trade Holl and Anderson to VGK for Roy.

VGK need to save money. Anderson can slot in right away for on their 4th line. Holl gives them a RD to slot behind Pietrangelo/Whitecloud. They may not be in a position to afford Paul. Leafs sign Roy 3.5Mx4 (Kerfoot contract).

Signings:

Wedgewood: 1.25Mx2
ZAR: 1.5Mx2 or 3
Giordano: 1Mx1
Sandin: 1.5Mx1
Liljegren: 2.25Mx2
Engvall: 2Mx2
Rodrigues: 3.5Mx4
Campbell 3.25Mx3

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Engvall-Tavares-Nylander
Steeves-Roy-Rodrigues
ZAR-Kampf-Hathaway

Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Walker

Campbell
Wedgewood

Ideally Knies steps in on L2 for playoffs and bumps Engvall to L3.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Friedman on 590 says

Leafs will make changes, more tenacity needed in top 6. Questions where JT plays next season, centre or wing.

Dubas will be back. No concern on contract status, though wonders if extension happens.

Feels this has to be for lack of another team, Dubas' summer of Kawhi, they will have to really consider a major move.

Thinks Giordano returns at a lower number.

Don't expect a long term deal with Sandin or Liljegren, shorter deals in that 1.5-2M range

Doesn't sound like Campbell will return, Leafs opened with 2.75M in initial offer which is far below Campbell's.

My 2 cents

If JT is already at wing, the contract sucks. We have an 11M winger already.

3.8M for Mrazek for 2.75M for Campbell doesn't make sense.

They cannot simply consider a major move, it actually needs to happen. He can't say "we'd be different but not better"

 

[Trapper]

Really happy we avoided Hagel.

Tampa paid the price of a super star on a 3rd liner.

Tampa is going for a 3rd Cup in a row. When you find that formula, damn the torpedoes, draft picks and future. Pittsburgh has done it. Tampa is in a whole different ballpark then we are. What’s foolish for this unproven formula is not for them.

 

[Buds17]

Friedman on 590 says

Leafs will make changes, more tenacity needed in top 6. Questions where JT plays next season, centre or wing.

Dubas will be back. No concern on contract status, though wonders if extension happens.

Feels this has to be for lack of another team, Dubas' summer of Kawhi, they will have to really consider a major move.

Thinks Giordano returns at a lower number.

Don't expect a long term deal with Sandin or Liljegren, shorter deals in that 1.5-2M range

Doesn't sound like Campbell will return, Leafs opened with 2.75M in initial offer which is far below Campbell's.

My 2 cents

If JT is already at wing, the contract sucks. We have an 11M winger already.

3.8M for Mrazek for 2.75M for Campbell doesn't make sense.

They cannot simply consider a major move, it actually needs to happen. He can't say "we'd be different but not better"

I'm with you here. I don't see how the team is better off moving from having two 11M centres and one ~11M winger to one 11M centre and two 11M wingers? That offer to Campbell is also just not going to get a deal done, and the team's goaltending situation currently starts and ends with Campbell, by the looks of it. This wouldn't be like Hyman, who was difficult to bring back on a team with Matthews, Tavares, Marner and Nylander already at forward.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Really happy we avoided Hagel.

Tampa paid the price of a super star on a 3rd liner.

They overpaid 3 deadlines in a row, but damn, I would have loved to see us bring in a Paul type this deadline.

I had this bad feeling at the deadline when Tampa and Boston both made impact trades and we just dabbled a little around the edges, and lo and behold, Tampa's gamble paid off. They don't win that series without the Hagel and Paul deals.

 

[Zero1]

Friedman on 590 says

Leafs will make changes, more tenacity needed in top 6. Questions where JT plays next season, centre or wing.

Dubas will be back. No concern on contract status, though wonders if extension happens.

Feels this has to be for lack of another team, Dubas' summer of Kawhi, they will have to really consider a major move.

Thinks Giordano returns at a lower number.

Don't expect a long term deal with Sandin or Liljegren, shorter deals in that 1.5-2M range

Doesn't sound like Campbell will return, Leafs opened with 2.75M in initial offer which is far below Campbell's.

My 2 cents

If JT is already at wing, the contract sucks. We have an 11M winger already.

3.8M for Mrazek for 2.75M for Campbell doesn't make sense.

They cannot simply consider a major move, it actually needs to happen. He can't say "we'd be different but not better"

That’s actually surprising that Dubas only offered $2.75 mill to Campbell.

I wonder what they do in net with such limited cap space.

 

[SprDaVE]

Friedman on 590 says

Leafs will make changes, more tenacity needed in top 6. Questions where JT plays next season, centre or wing.

Dubas will be back. No concern on contract status, though wonders if extension happens.

Feels this has to be for lack of another team, Dubas' summer of Kawhi, they will have to really consider a major move.

Thinks Giordano returns at a lower number.

Don't expect a long term deal with Sandin or Liljegren, shorter deals in that 1.5-2M range

Doesn't sound like Campbell will return, Leafs opened with 2.75M in initial offer which is far below Campbell's.

My 2 cents

If JT is already at wing, the contract sucks. We have an 11M winger already.

3.8M for Mrazek for 2.75M for Campbell doesn't make sense.

They cannot simply consider a major move, it actually needs to happen. He can't say "we'd be different but not better"

I'm actually really surprised at that Campbell tidbit. You won't find much better than Campbell in free agency for his price range. I wouldn't be overly shocked if the Leafs brought back Mrazek as a back-up or #1B, he had a very unlucky season, but ... they have to figure it out quickly. If Campbell wants over 4.5M long-term, I definitely let him test market. Anything between 3M and 4.25M is very fair depending on term.

There is realistically only 1 spot in the top 6 at this time regardless of Tavares' move to the wing or not. They really need to dig deep to find a Mikheyev replacement because that won't be easy, although Mikheyev was mostly just a breakaway fiend.

Tavares isn't going anywhere. The faster people understand this the better. Pavelski showed just how good players of their ilk can still be later in their careers.

 

[horner]

Would love to add Nick Paul .
Big bodied winger hits not afraid to go to the net , has some skill.

Mik showed nothing in the playoffs , was very disappointed in him.

Trade
Engval same as above
Kerfoot make to many bone headed moves
Mrazek
Holl

We need some players that like to hit

Additions
Steeves Anderson Robertson

Knies will be a great addition before the end of the season.

Sign
Soup 3.5 to 4 mil
Nobody else matches Campbell in the ufa market .

 

[Americanadian]

That’s actually surprising that Dubas only offered $2.75 mill to Campbell.

I wonder what they do in net with such limited cap space.

He offered him the Anton Forsberg contract which is very fair given the numbers they put up this season.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm actually really surprised at that Campbell tidbit. You won't find much better than Campbell in free agency for his price range. I wouldn't be overly shocked if the Leafs brought back Mrazek as a back-up or #1B, he had a very unlucky season, but ... they have to figure it out quickly. If Campbell wants over 4.5M long-term, I definitely let him test market. Anything between 3M and 4.25M is very fair depending on term.

There is realistically only 1 spot in the top 6 at this time regardless of Tavares' move to the wing or not. They really need to dig deep to find a Mikheyev replacement because that won't be easy, although Mikheyev was mostly just a breakaway fiend.

Tavares isn't going anywhere. The faster people understand this the better. Pavelski showed just how good players of their ilk can still be later in their careers.

Mrazek isn't unlucky, he's injury prone. Missed a lot of time the season before with Carolina and just not great use of cap because of how top heavy we are.