Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[supermann_98]

50 point forward for $1.75M next season. That's worth a lot more to a contending team.

His AAV is what contending teams have to worry about and fitting him under their cap, exactly the reason why we're looking to dump him off. Not a cap geek but how many contending teams can just absorb $3.5m? Most teams are also in cap hell for the short term until the cap gets a 10-15% bump. Now they'll just happily take on Kerfoot for draft capital when there are cheaper alternatives in UFA who are comparable in their game impact? I don't see him returning a 2nd, at least if it's a trade on its own, but maybe expanding the trade? I dunno, can't see us getting more than a 3rd and more likely a 4th for Kerf

He's definitely not a useless player but time to make room for some young Marlie blood, and yes he cost us game 6, I realize people want him gone after that as do I trust me

 

[SeaOfBlue]

If he's awful, yeah they will. Kallgren looked a whole lot better despite their stats being the same. If Mrazek still struggles, he's not staying up.

I disagree. I don't think Kallgren looked better at all, especially after the first little stretch. Kallgren didn't really show that he should take a job over a proven veteran, especially on a team like ours.

Now if Mrazek sucks for a long stretch, then maybe Woll gets a chance. Kallgren just looks like organizational depth who maybe can be a #3, just like Kaskisuo.

 

[Jozay]

My point was that whichever team is getting Mrazek can also trade Kerfoot retained for a large return at the TDL.

Oh, my fault. Still dont think Mrazek + Kerfoot returns a 2nd though. Could see late 3rd.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Cap savings of the next 2 years might be important.
And some are predicting a revenue growth over the next couple of years.


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Alright but we are not talking about much in terms of cap savings if we bury him.

A buried Mrazek vs. a league minimum backup saves you 250k. Mrazek is much better than a league minimum backup. A guy doesn't go from worth 3.8 mill to 3 mill less than that after one bad season when he has the kind of track record he has.

And it is looking like retaining one mill on Mrazek makes a lot more sense than buying him out too. We may even be able to get positive value for Mrazek at that point.

 

[ULF_55]

His AAV is what contending teams have to worry about and fitting him under their cap, exactly the reason why we're looking to dump him off. Not a cap geek but how many contending teams can just absorb $3.5m? Most teams are also in cap hell for the short term until the cap gets a 10-15% bump. Now they'll just happily take on Kerfoot for draft capital when there are cheaper alternatives in UFA who are comparable in their game impact? I don't see him returning a 2nd, at least if it's a trade on its own, but maybe expanding the trade? I dunno, can't see us getting more than a 3rd and more likely a 4th for Kerf

He's definitely not a useless player but time to make room for some young Marlie blood, and yes he cost us game 6, I realize people want him gone after that as do I trust me

They don't need Kerfoot's cap space for Marlies.

Kerfoot could be used in hockey trade though.
2.7 before the bonus 750k after.
He's worth his money and should be an easy trade.
Some teams have real money concerns.
He actually makes sense for the Coyotes, although trading anyone to the Coyotes is just mean!

 

[SeaOfBlue]

They don't need Kerfoot's cap space for Marlies.

Kerfoot could be used in hockey trade though.
2.7 before the bonus 750k after.
He's worth his money and should be an easy trade.
Some teams have real money concerns.
He actually makes sense for the Coyotes, although trading anyone to the Coyotes is just mean!

I would also like to know which UFA can bring Kerfoot's value for his cap hit. I would love to be in on that signing thank you very much.

 

[TMLAM34]

Mrazek was looking better after he was placed on waivers. I think he’ll be able to bounce back. I don’t think it’ll take anything really to trade him, especially to a team like Chicago who desperately needs an NHL goaltender. Or as part of a trade to Anaheim involving Gibson.

Mrazek + Steeves + 2023 1st for Gibson.

 

[Stephen]

I would insist on Askarov being part of the package coming back. Use the cap space on a free agent.

Interesting question. If you knew now that Askarov will end up being the next Vasi or Shersterkin but was still a few years away, would Leaf fans trade a key piece today (while in their window) for a decade of solid goaltending in the future? And yes, I know goaltending is far from a sure thing.

I would say yes because you could reinvest the $7 million Nylander’s cap right awayin free agency. So you’d get a quality forward and an elite goalie of the future in one sequence.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Mrazek was looking better after he was placed on waivers. I think he’ll be able to bounce back. I don’t think it’ll take anything really to trade him, especially to a team like Chicago who desperately needs an NHL goaltender. Or as part of a trade to Anaheim involving Gibson.

Mrazek + Steeves + 2023 1st for Gibson.

Steeves isn't enough

 

[kb]

50 point forward for $1.75M next season. That's worth a lot more to a contending team.

50 point forward for $750K with a $3.5 million cap hit is even more valuable to a bottom feeder trying to get to the cap floor.

Steeves isn't enough

Then take out the 1st.

 

[Brobust]

50 point forward for $750K with a $3.5 million cap hit is even more valuable to a bottom feeder trying to get to the cap floor.


Then take out the 1st.

Deadline prices have been crazy recently.

 

[Menzinger]

From LeBruns latest Athletic piece. I'd still probably move on and change things up there but I think I'd be ok with a 3.5M cap hit for a few years.




Also Siegel (Leafs writer) and Power (Hawks writer) from the Athletic also are speculating that a Mrazek trade to the Hawks makes a lot of sense. Hawks are rebuilding, Leafs need cap space. There's probably a good match there.

I'd be okay with Soup for that price, but likely ensures Kerfoot is gone. Soups lack of playoff scoring is definitely a concern though

 

[Menzinger]

Toronto does not need to trade or buy out Mrazek, They should put him on long term injury like they did with Joffrey Lupul. Mrazek has had 3 significant groin injuries in a short period of time Toronto has a legal obligation to mitigate any serious health issues going forward. Mrazek needs to think quality of life moving forward.

Hell need a legit injury for that to happen. If the player publicly challenges the team the league will investigate like they did with Lupul.

Unless Mrazek doesn't want to actually play anymore (which seems unlikely) I don't see what's in it for him to go along with it

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I'd be okay with Soup for that price, but likely ensures Kerfoot is gone. Soups lack of playoff scoring is definitely a concern though

I like Mikheyev as a player, but I think we can live without him. I think we are a team that can find and develop those kinds of talents, and Mikheyev is a guy who should go to a team that can't develop talent and get his money there.

 

[Menzinger]

I like Mikheyev as a player, but I think we can live without him. I think we are a team that can find and develop those kinds of talents, and Mikheyev is a guy who should go to a team that can't develop talent and get his money there.

I definitely don't think he's a "must sign". But if he's willing to be reasonable on aav I'd definitely listen

 

[Dreakmur]

I would also like to know which UFA can bring Kerfoot's value for his cap hit. I would love to be in on that signing thank you very much.

In a flat cap world with a suppressed market, there could be quite a few. Also, this year is the highest scoring season since 1996, so a lot of point totals got inflated a bit.

 

[Brobust]

I would also like to know which UFA can bring Kerfoot's value for his cap hit. I would love to be in on that signing thank you very much.

They replaced Hyman pretty easily and he was a more important player.

Not a guarantee but a lot of interesting names out there depending on what exactly the leafs want.

 

[Nylanderthal]

They haven't even won a round and already they're going to do the Teuvo Teravainen trade. I expect the asking price will be Nick Robertson or the 1st.

Gross

 

[supermann_98]

I would also like to know which UFA can bring Kerfoot's value for his cap hit. I would love to be in on that signing thank you very much.

If Dubas could pull another Bunting out of his hat for that cap hit I’d take back every bad thing I’ve said about his bad decisions

 

[supermann_98]

In a flat cap world with a suppressed market, there could be quite a few. Also, this year is the highest scoring season since 1996, so a lot of point totals got inflated a bit.

Maybe a guy looking for a 1-2 year contract to have some flexibility the year following year(s) to see how much the cap goes up and cash in on a retirement contract and also … to use the NBA terminology (ahem) … “ring chase”.

Imagine Malkin coming here for a local Ontario boy minimum wage contract?

 

[ER89]

Yep. He was not good at all. But that doesn't scare me longer term. Buy low candidate. Trade Nylander for Askarov and the 17th pick. Take Kasper or McGroarty. Maybe sign a Perron type of forward.

I realize it's too big of a gamble. Can't see Dubas trading for futures while his future hangs in the balance. Just having fun with it. Just can't shake the feeling that Askarov is going to be a star one day. But his timeline doesn't match the Leafs.

Nylander is not buying low on askarov.

 

[Menzinger]

Curious what the price for Puljujärvi would be

 

[BertCorbeau]

I like Mikheyev as a player, but I think we can live without him. I think we are a team that can find and develop those kinds of talents, and Mikheyev is a guy who should go to a team that can't develop talent and get his money there.

You have to wonder if this was a breakout season or just a flash in the pan. He doubled his shooting career shooting percentage. Albeit 14% isn't crazy high.

He did seem to find some poise in his scoring ability ... but I just don't know if he's a consistent scoring threat.

I could move on but if he's reasonable in his ask, you look at it .. If you're re-signing him though, Engvall's probably got to go.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Curious what the price for Puljujärvi would be

2-3 year deal around $2-$2.5 AAV?

Nice regular season but went quiet in the playoffs.

 

[showtime8]

Curious what the price for Puljujärvi would be

Not worth the cost of acquisition or contract.