Marchment is often injured and has had one year showing he's a top 6 guy. I get the appeal, but I'd rather not. Especially if he's looking for top 6 money.
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32 Thoughts: Could 2022 bring us the best Stanley Cup Playoffs ever?
In his latest thoughts, Elliotte Friedman looks at some of the best-ever playoffs and wonders if 2022 could top the list, plus more from around the league.
13. There’s no doubt Toronto’s Rasmus Sandin is getting a qualifying offer, but what’s less certain is how things will play out for him. He was going very well until injured late in the season, and couldn’t get back into the lineup once healthy during the playoffs. The Maple Leafs were very happy with Jake Muzzin’s post-season performance, leading to a left-side logjam with Muzzin, Sandin, Morgan Rielly, Mark Giordano and TJ Brodie (who prefers his weakside). Toronto’s cap situation doesn’t afford Sandin contract room. Good player and the team knows it, but the numbers make everything a tight puzzle.
As for Jack Campbell, the last I’d heard is there hadn’t been any contract conversations for months and anything that was discussed — I’d heard the two sides were far apart — was, in the words of one source, “no longer relevant.” All his agent, Kurt Overhardt, would say is “there’s been no material contract conversation” since the end of the season.
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Okay I have seen this multiple times and I don't get it. Sandin's AAV won't be high even on a medium term deal so how can we not afford him? What am I missing?32 Thoughts: Could 2022 bring us the best Stanley Cup Playoffs ever?
In his latest thoughts, Elliotte Friedman looks at some of the best-ever playoffs and wonders if 2022 could top the list, plus more from around the league.www.sportsnet.ca
13. There’s no doubt Toronto’s Rasmus Sandin is getting a qualifying offer, but what’s less certain is how things will play out for him. He was going very well until injured late in the season, and couldn’t get back into the lineup once healthy during the playoffs. The Maple Leafs were very happy with Jake Muzzin’s post-season performance, leading to a left-side logjam with Muzzin, Sandin, Morgan Rielly, Mark Giordano and TJ Brodie (who prefers his weakside). Toronto’s cap situation doesn’t afford Sandin contract room. Good player and the team knows it, but the numbers make everything a tight puzzle.
As for Jack Campbell, the last I’d heard is there hadn’t been any contract conversations for months and anything that was discussed — I’d heard the two sides were far apart — was, in the words of one source, “no longer relevant.” All his agent, Kurt Overhardt, would say is “there’s been no material contract conversation” since the end of the season.
Ya I really don’t get that? He isn’t getting a 4 mill contract. Would probably be a stretch to get to 2 for him.
Bridge is an easy option
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LEAFS - COYOTES
Nick Robertson & Alex Kerfoot
for
Lawson Crouse
LEAFS - ISLANDERS
Jake Muzzin
for
Ross Johnston & 2nd
LEAFS - HURRICANES
William Nylander
for
Martin Necas & 1st 2023
LEAFS - DUCKS
Justin Holl, Topi Niemela, Petr Mrazek & 1st
for
John Gibson
RFA'S
Lawson Crouse - 4 x 3.75
Rasmus Sandin - 2 x 1.75
Timothy Liljigren - 2 x 1.75
Pierre Engvall - 3 x 1.75
Martin Necas - 3 x 3.75
UFA'S
Colin Blackwell - 1 x 1.0
Nick Paul - 3 x 3.25
Ilya Lyubushkin - 2 x 1.75
Valeri Nichushkin - 4 x 4.25
LINES
CROUSE - MATTHEWS - MARNER
NICHUSHKIN - TAVARES - NECAS
BUNTING - - PAUL - - BLACKWELL
JOHNSTON - KAMPF - ENGVALL
RIELLY - - - - - SANDIN
BRODIE - - - - - BOOSH
GIORDANO - LILJIGREN
GIBSON
Nick Robertson & Alex Kerfoot
for
Lawson Crouse
LEAFS - ISLANDERS
Jake Muzzin
for
Ross Johnston & 2nd
LEAFS - HURRICANES
William Nylander
for
Martin Necas & 1st 2023
LEAFS - DUCKS
Justin Holl, Topi Niemela, Petr Mrazek & 1st
for
John Gibson
RFA'S
Lawson Crouse - 4 x 3.75
Rasmus Sandin - 2 x 1.75
Timothy Liljigren - 2 x 1.75
Pierre Engvall - 3 x 1.75
Martin Necas - 3 x 3.75
UFA'S
Colin Blackwell - 1 x 1.0
Nick Paul - 3 x 3.25
Ilya Lyubushkin - 2 x 1.75
Valeri Nichushkin - 4 x 4.25
LINES
CROUSE - MATTHEWS - MARNER
NICHUSHKIN - TAVARES - NECAS
BUNTING - - PAUL - - BLACKWELL
JOHNSTON - KAMPF - ENGVALL
RIELLY - - - - - SANDIN
BRODIE - - - - - BOOSH
GIORDANO - LILJIGREN
GIBSON
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32 thoughts tidbit, which I think was kind of obvious but some people are insistent this isn't the case.
Those picks aren't getting moved.
Those picks aren't getting moved.
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Muzzin for Henrique could make sense. Not sure if Muzzin would waive for Anaheim. Leafs clear up their logjam on LD and pick up a ~top 6~ forward. Anaheim replace Lindholm and gives Drysdale a stay at home D partner. Term offsets. Toronto picks up 200k in additional salary. Maybe add on to the deal and Anaheim throws in Stolarz.
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I feel like he gets a one year deal for about the same as he made last year and then something like a 3 year deal for a number in the mid-high 2's or low 3's depending on how he does. Same for Liljegren.
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I think it's about opportunity. He doesn't see an opportunity with having Rielly on the top pairing, Muzzin on the 2nd pairing and Giordano on the 3rd.
Which one is he going to replace, keeping in mind that traditionally, Keefe likes to have his 2nd pair as a shutdown pair.
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That’s the exact vibe I got from that tidbit, almost like they have someone in mind they are going for.
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Would be incredibly short sighted to move Sandin when Giordano and Muzzin can fall off at any moment.
I'd be looking to move Muzzin while he has value annd attempt to sign a Muzzin-like defenceman for the right side.
I'd look to trade both Muzzin and Holl.
I'd be looking to move Muzzin while he has value annd attempt to sign a Muzzin-like defenceman for the right side.
I'd look to trade both Muzzin and Holl.
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I bet it’s Gibson or Hellebyuck. A legit starter. If they were looking at a 1A/1B they would definitely still be engaged with Campbell.
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It’s more so, on the left side as it stands, It’s Morgan Riley, Muzzin, Gio. There’s no room on the left side for Sandin at the moment. He hasn’t played right the side very good at all, so it looks like he’s stuck behind those 3. They could probably get Sandin on a 3 year deal at 2.5m
It’s short sited to move a 22 year old dman because of a 39 year old dman and Muzzin, but I am also okay moving Sandin if it means filling that 2nd line LW spot with someone with term.
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Correct. lolI mean, Tavares contract also ends the same time as McDavids as well
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Exactly. Unless they specifically have someone in mind you’d think they’d for sure still be in constant talks with Campbell, as no other FA option (except maybe Kuemper) is clearly better than Jack.
I’d be thrilled with Hellebuyck, he’s my #1 in a dream scenario.
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That'd be an excellent deal for us imo, and not too bad for Jersey either.
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Revisionist history here but not signing Perry the year we signed Simmonds/Thornton was such an unbelievable miss.
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What does Winnipeg want for Hellebuyck? If they're trading him, that means they're no longer trying to win now, so that means picks and prospects. Does Sandin, Robertson, a contract dump, and a 1st get it done?
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That's definitely a whiff. There's a difference between a player who brings leadership and a player who's just old. Giordano is a better player than his contract, so it's just a plain good deal, but I'm not sure a 40 year old with 30 career play-off games is going to offer much in the way of teaching us how to win.
LeafChief
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Comparing Giordano to Perry/Simmonds/Thornton level players is a whiff in itself.
Pinto
Kings of the North!
Honestly not even really revisionist. Perry was coming off a pretty decent playoff run with Dallas and Simmonds looked just as done then as he does now.
Don’t even know if he’s available. By the sounds of it Scheifele is all but gone but I’m not sure if they are rebuilding or re-tooling.
If Hellebuyck became available that’s one of the few goalies I’d pony up for.
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I'm not sure they have the roster to win now and they have a lot to turn over.
I don't think it will take that much for Helleybuck. He's still a good goaltender, but you've got 3 good years left in him.
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I don't see NJ wanting anything to do with Kerfoot after they drafted him and he left. I know it's different management now but the ownership remains the same.
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